Can you guys take a look at my 1st cycle?

[SQ4]

What's up fellas...here goes what my first cycle looks like...would love to get some feedback. If you see something you would change, please feel free to make a change, as long as you say why.

stats:

31 yrs
5' 9"
195lb
b/f 18%
Training off and on for 10 yrs
no cycle experience

cycle:

1-10 test en 500mg/w Mon-Thur
1-10 EQ 600mg week 1 & 2/400mg week 3-10 Mon-Thur
1-4 Dbol 35mg/ed
7-13, maybe 8-13 Winny 50mg/ed
1-13 Proviron 50mg/ed
1-16 Arimidex .5/ed
13-16 Nolvadex 20mg/ed
13-16 Clomid 100/100/50

I also have some hcg, do you guys think it's a good idea to add it in wk 8-9 @ 500 iu/wk? And I'm also considering running nolv @ 10mg from day 1 and bump it to 20 at pct. Oh and I have R ala and tylers detox...how much r ala is supposed to be taken? TIA

 

[DaddyX]

too much gear. a simple stack of test/dbol maybe some nolvs or arimidex and clomid post cycle. test 500mg for 10 weeks/dbol 20-30mg for the first 4-6 weeks. no need for the eq or winny........

 

[The Terminator]

Your first stack has twice as much in it than my 6th or 7th (or whatever I am on now...)

 

[SQ4]

Really DX? I could understand maybe tossin the winny and hcg for my 1st cycle, but why no EQ? I've seen alot of membrs first cyled put together with test/eq or test/deca. Just curious why you suggest no EQ? I could also drop the front load and just go 400 1-10.

 

[psychedout]

Drop the EQ, too much gear. Test/Dbol = good choice. 50mg daily of winny is ok, but its not nesecary. Ill let you decide whether or not too keep the winny. (lol, actually you get to decided everything.

With 500mg test, it is unlikely that proviron will be needed.

HCG is a good choice to help your nuts. I suggest injecting 500ius weekly from the getgo. Prevention is always best.

Its not nesecary to run nolva from the get go if you are running ldex all the way through.

Hope that helps.

 

[BigAndy69]

EQ is useless unless you have a good build and want to add some vascularity. As far as mass building it doesn't compare to Nandro, Test or dbol


Also 35mg of good dbol is too much for a first timer, try 20-25mg

I would suggest the following cycle:

W1-8 Test En: 500mg a week
W9-11 Test Prop: 150mg EOD
W1-4: Dbol 25mg ED

Optional: winny w9-12

You can start cycle therapy right away

Proviron, I don't really see the need here and you can get away with arimidex 1mg E3D and keep nolva on hand.

Also post cycle drop the arimidex to 0.5mg EOD

 

[SQ4]

Your first stack has twice as much in it than my 6th or 7th (or whatever I am on now...)

maybe it just looks crazy cuz I got it all together...but I doubt that 500mg of test and 400mg of EQ a week is over kill at all. Here I'll seperate it..

Test 1-10 @ 500mg/wk
EQ 1-10 @ 400/wk
D bol 1-4 @ 30-35/ed

Anti's
Arimidex beginning to end @ .5 e/d
Nolv @ 20mg pct
clomid 100/100/50 pct

I'll think about the winny and the proviron, but will ditch the hcg for now, so there...now how does that look? I really doubt that I have twice as much planned for my 1st than your 6th or 7th Terminator

 

[thx9000]

I don't know what your goals are but if you are at 18% bf you better be prepared to see it go UP considerably by the end of the cycle.

There's a lot in there for a first cycle, looks sorta like a buffet. I would just go simple, Enan/EQ at over 1g a week will be PLENTY although EQ really isn't all that exciting. I wouldn't bother with the dbol/provion at this time but it's your choice. Even with the Test dosages you have suggested you should be fine at .5mg Arimidex EOD (i used .25 EOD on similar dosages) avoid running the nolva if you can and just have it on hand in case of problems which are unlikely anyhow. You can use the HCG at low doeses through out or save it for 3wk post last EQ injection and run it at 1000 to 2000iu MWF for a couple of weeks (along with nolva at 20mg ED). If you don't notice any problems with shrinkage, though, then don't use the HCG...

 

[SQ4]

Thanks for your input psych and Big A But seriously now I'm getting confused here...I've had some mods that looked over my cycle and thought it looked pretty good (they stay anon)...but winny and hcg was always questioned. But never was I told that it was overkill! Except for the winny and hcg, that is..

 

[thx9000]

maybe it just looks crazy cuz I got it all together...but I doubt that 500mg of test and 400mg of EQ a week is over kill at all. Here I'll seperate it..

Test 1-10 @ 500mg/wk
EQ 1-10 @ 400/wk
D bol 1-4 @ 30-35/ed

Anti's
Arimidex beginning to end @ .5 e/d
Nolv @ 20mg pct
clomid 100/100/50 pct

I'll think about the winny and the proviron, but will ditch the hcg for now, so there...now how does that look? I really doubt that I have twice as much planned for my 1st than your 6th or 7th Terminator

For some reason I thought you were doing 600mg EQ EW, 400mg EW will be really boring. I would go with EQ at higher dosages or drop it in favor of dbol. As for TLD, I take 6 ED on cycle and 3 ED off, best to take on an empty stomach about 1/2hr before your 17aa's.