can we talk about pct for a first timer?

[youlikeadajuice?]

I've done a notebook full of research on the subject, but I need something cleared up.

I've learned that a first cycle should consist of TEST only (prop 500mg/wk would be my choice).

But my confusion lies in PCT. It was my understanding that pct include two weeks of HCG, and having Nolva on hand just in case. Now I've read suggestions that totally omit HCG, and call for Armidex as the anti-E.

Could someone clear this up for me.

 

[muscleup]

The best PCT in my opinion would be

HCG 1000 iu's per day the last 10 days of your cycle{I prefer a different method}
clomid 3 days after last injection of propinate{standard clomid}
day 1-300mg
days 2-11-100mgs
days-3-21-50mgs

 

[preist]

Ver batem what musclup posted.I have done pct without hcg, using clomid only. Full recovery took forever without hcg , i would def. use it if i could find it.Good luck , bro.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

hi. im a pharmacist if that means anything to you, and i would have to direct you to a pct protocol by a guy called swale on steroid.ology (minus the .) which advocates hcg throughout the cycle, and anti e's after it.

also, i think that 500mg is high.

do yourself a favour and read a little more on the halflives of different agents, what that does to blood levels over the course of, and at the end of, the cycle, and how that impacts on pct timing

i am not a fan of using hcg post cycle as long as you have used it during, since it mimics the action of leutenising hormone (LH), thereby making it difficult for your body to resume making normal amounts of LH as part of your hpta correction

cheers

 

[muscleup]

hi. im a pharmacist if that means anything to you, and i would have to direct you to a pct protocol by a guy called swale on steroid.ology (minus the .) which advocates hcg throughout the cycle, and anti e's after it.

also, i think that 500mg is high.

do yourself a favour and read a little more on the halflives of different agents, what that does to blood levels over the course of, and at the end of, the cycle, and how that impacts on pct timing

i am not a fan of using hcg post cycle as long as you have used it during, since it mimics the action of leutenising hormone (LH), thereby making it difficult for your body to resume making normal amounts of LH as part of your hpta correction

cheers

This is the method I prefer....SWALE is the man

 

[Slyder190]

I think 500mg is perfect. I haven't used HCG yet but will next time around, but not PC.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

i know guys who have gained 20lbs plus on 250. there are many others i have chatted to along the way who started out on 200 and got great gains. i wouldnt go straight to 500 personally

 

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[T2O]

My first cycle was only 250mgs cyp EW 10 weeks with some anavar various dose 30mgs ed avg. for around 4 weeks. HCG aqnd clomid post and got over 20lbs and kept about 15 solid. But as stated above check your esters and see if Prop EW is what you want to go with. HCG 1000mgs ed for 10 days, clomid I tried what Muscleup said. I feel HCG is a must also.

 

[youlikeadajuice?]

If 500 is too high... are you saying 250 is a good amount?