can u get to the point when u cant even grow off the juice ?

[waterboy]

I just got off a 600mg TT EQ a week for 10 weeks and 500mg of sust for 10 weeks and i only gained "6 pounds" I wipe my ass with 6 pounds for all the money i spent its not worth 6 pounds .... lost a little body fat and got a little vascular but nothing to brag about .....my 1st cycle was 500mg of sust a week for 10 weeks and I gained 20 pounds ....my 2nd cycle was 600mg of norandren200 for 8 weeks and 500mg of sust for 10 weeks and i gained 20 pounds .......so did i max out and got to the point where i cant even grow off juice now or do i need to start doing 750mg to 1000mg a week of test in order to grow ? tell me what you think ....thanks waterboy

 

[waterboy]

I started off @ 135 5'6 now im 172 my goal was to get to 190 but it seems like thats not even possible

 

[OXANDRIN]

genetics play a role in that. you seem pretty to have a small frame...5'6'' 135 so i'm guess you were always skinny. but try some other types of drugs. maybe add some oral like dbol or winny to you next cycle... 500mg of test a week should be good for you. add some tren and winny and see how that goes

 

[SNAKE BITE]

Maybe your diet bro?

 

[defying gravity]

Sounds to me like your'e

Rushing things. How long have you been working out? ARE YOU DOING HEAVY LEG AND BACK WORK? Are you eating well? You sound bummed cause you only gained 6 lbs. Guess what? If everyone gained and kept 20 lbs everytime they did a cycle, and they did 4 cycles a year in two years they would have gained 160 lbs of muscle. Hmmm, lets see you started out at 135, in two years you gain 160 lbs....well your now 375 lbs at 5'7 and the most heavily muscled man on earth. BULLSHIT! It doesn't work that way. Your genetic code will allow only so much muscle. Do a few more cycles and gain 5 or 6 lbs each time and pretty soon you will be pretty damn thick. It doesn't happen overnight. Have a year long plan and a 5 year plan on what you want your goals to be. If you want to do three cycles and be "all you can be" you are going to be dissapointed. AND DO NOT FORGET THE IMPORTANCE OF HEAVY LEG AND BACK WORK! If you want your body to grow you have to start with the foundation, and it's not benches and biceps.

Defying Gravity

 

[ripped20]

hmmm

Maybe you got some fake gear?

 

[liftsiron]

Check your diet train hard and intense, but don't overtrain. Go for quality muscle, and don't worry so much about your scale weight.

 

[Spunky]

I skyrocketed from 185lbs to 250lbs over a period of about 3 years. My growth started to slow once I hit about 230 and now I gain alot more slowly.... Once you reach a certain point it will slow down alot.... Now I am going to cut up so I can see what I have gained over these past years and then try to bulk again... its just a long continual process.. just hang in there and years down the road you will be happy. Atleast thats the way I look at it.

 

[theoak01]

i agree with the guys who say it could be diet or genetics,what does your diet look like? is your family generally small?

 

[Iron Thrower]

Genetics do play a big role in it. But from what I understand about steroids is that most anabolic steroids will make what muscle cells you have, bigger. GH will create NEW muscle cells, on top of making the ones you have bigger. So I guess it comes down to how much you want to juice. Iron