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can u believe those fuckers are gonna clone human beings!!
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HappyScrappy
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cloning is silly. you get someone or something that looks like what you had before, but zero knowledge based on that.
say you have a dog fluffy. you have some of fluffy's dna stored away in case something goes bad. you and fluffy live a happy 10 years together. fluffy is a wonderful dog.
then one day, that dumbass fluffy runs out under a van and becomes a meat pancake.
you then run your little butt over to the local cloning agency with the dna you had stored, and voila, through the micracle of science, a dog that looks EXACTLY like fluffy is there.
But, the problem is, this dog has not had any of the life experiences that the other dog had. it doesn't know who you are, it doesn't know to sit when you say the word, it doesn't know that you greatly dislike it when it shits in your loafers.
cloning is silly.
say you have a dog fluffy. you have some of fluffy's dna stored away in case something goes bad. you and fluffy live a happy 10 years together. fluffy is a wonderful dog.
then one day, that dumbass fluffy runs out under a van and becomes a meat pancake.
you then run your little butt over to the local cloning agency with the dna you had stored, and voila, through the micracle of science, a dog that looks EXACTLY like fluffy is there.
But, the problem is, this dog has not had any of the life experiences that the other dog had. it doesn't know who you are, it doesn't know to sit when you say the word, it doesn't know that you greatly dislike it when it shits in your loafers.
cloning is silly.
Kakdiesel
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yeah but happy, they dont clone like exactly clone...all of the "products" start out at the infant stage just like natural birth..so i guess to argue with your statement, you could raise/train your new "product" to be just like your previous loved one..
i mean most people have a genetic predisposition when it comes to brain chemical ratio's etc...so the question to your statement is
are we a product or nature or nurture?
i mean most people have a genetic predisposition when it comes to brain chemical ratio's etc...so the question to your statement is
are we a product or nature or nurture?
hmmm, very interesting question kakdiesel.
twin studies hav consistently shown that we are all not just DNA robots (the one where one twin was a nazi and the other was gay cracked me up, especially when they met)
but the arguement with the dog might hold true....except could u possibly hope to replicate that dogs training. the fact that one twin decided to bcome gay and the other a nazi shows that people are very sensitive to their environment. not sure what the outcome would be with a dog as they are not as comlicated as humans, and your genetic profile has a lot to do with the type of person u are, people with XYY chromosomes are typically very agressive and found in prisons for example.
i think we are a mix of nature and nurture, but not sure how much of one or the other we are
twin studies hav consistently shown that we are all not just DNA robots (the one where one twin was a nazi and the other was gay cracked me up, especially when they met)
but the arguement with the dog might hold true....except could u possibly hope to replicate that dogs training. the fact that one twin decided to bcome gay and the other a nazi shows that people are very sensitive to their environment. not sure what the outcome would be with a dog as they are not as comlicated as humans, and your genetic profile has a lot to do with the type of person u are, people with XYY chromosomes are typically very agressive and found in prisons for example.
i think we are a mix of nature and nurture, but not sure how much of one or the other we are
Kakdiesel
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thats what i think too danielson...we are all predisposed to our genetic make up on how we will "act" or "feel" to things in life..
but the environment is a huge impact.
therefore, again, the "dog" could become exactly like its original if trained/raised the same way in the same environment...
although I also have to bite my lip a little because i'm being a little contradictive..i'm a firm believer in souls
but the environment is a huge impact.
therefore, again, the "dog" could become exactly like its original if trained/raised the same way in the same environment...
although I also have to bite my lip a little because i'm being a little contradictive..i'm a firm believer in souls
ditto here too bud
all we are when u think of it are cells, made up of the same atoms from the snot of the cosmos, a sun farted, out came our sun and all the planets, then us
so every brain is almost identical in design. yet each person is completely different in personality. some say the barin is a quantum computer, and there are theroies about structures in the brain which could support this. but the way i see it is our sentience has not been seen in nature (either that or all the animals are sentient but are too dumb to tell us as all they can do is bark or crow or someting )...so theres something amiss here. i tink that can be explained by souls and all those near death i saw a light expriences.
all we are when u think of it are cells, made up of the same atoms from the snot of the cosmos, a sun farted, out came our sun and all the planets, then us
so every brain is almost identical in design. yet each person is completely different in personality. some say the barin is a quantum computer, and there are theroies about structures in the brain which could support this. but the way i see it is our sentience has not been seen in nature (either that or all the animals are sentient but are too dumb to tell us as all they can do is bark or crow or someting
)...so theres something amiss here. i tink that can be explained by souls and all those near death i saw a light expriences.
HappyScrappy
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this is all standard psych 101 shit.
we are both nature and nurture - and it is impossible to raise the second creature - whatever it may be, to have the exact some life experiences.
there are just too many variables.
all the "hard wired" stuff is there, so you don't have to worry about that, but in the long run, you will end up with a very different person/creature than what you had originally.
there are tons and tons of books on this.
we are both nature and nurture - and it is impossible to raise the second creature - whatever it may be, to have the exact some life experiences.
there are just too many variables.
all the "hard wired" stuff is there, so you don't have to worry about that, but in the long run, you will end up with a very different person/creature than what you had originally.
there are tons and tons of books on this.
