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Can someone explain why the US taxpayers give Isreal $3.5+ billion each year?
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the nature boy
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we have to. it's part of the camp david accords. we also give them all kinds of favorable loans with open ended payoff dates. of course they'll never pay off those loans, but we look the other way. i wish I got that deal.
Doktor Bollix
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The Egyptians get an identical amount and I never hear anyone bitching about that.
It's military aid. We help out our client states, they do what they're told, and it's a nice bit of corporate welfare for the arms industry who are major campaign contributors. Picture a group of chimps all scratching an 800 lb gorillas back, and every now and then he throws them a few bananas.
It's military aid. We help out our client states, they do what they're told, and it's a nice bit of corporate welfare for the arms industry who are major campaign contributors. Picture a group of chimps all scratching an 800 lb gorillas back, and every now and then he throws them a few bananas.
Article below should be read by every American because it shows that Jews in government unite as Jews, not as Americans
http://americandefenseleague.com/jewunite.htm
http://americandefenseleague.com/jewunite.htm
Doktor Bollix said:
No one bitches about the Egyptions because they are about 50 times the size of Isreal and do not stir up resentmenmt against America all over the world.
I love the way everyone brings up Egypt. It has nothing to do with why the US gives money to Israel. It is just distracts the issue.
Doktor Bollix
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2Thick said:
I love that argument that America should timorously avoid the further disapproval of those who hate us already.
When 2 parties get 90% of US direct military aid and both get the same amount and both are neighbours who hate each other and both are key levers of American foreign policy in the area I think it's valid to mention them together when only one of them raises all these objections. Particularly when only one of them (Israel) gets any international critiscism for it's treatment of political dissidents. The Egyptians probably disappear and torture more people in a month than Israel has in it's entire existence.
But I'm just distracting from the issue, which is whatever 2Thick says it is.
Y_lifter
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This site gives an overview of foriegn aid around the world.
There are other's getting our money.
We are buying them off basically..
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http://www.clw.org/cat/foraid/faidtoc.html
There are other's getting our money.
We are buying them off basically..
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http://www.clw.org/cat/foraid/faidtoc.html
Doktor Bollix said:
I will tell you why Egypt gets "aid." It gets this money because they promised to ignore Israel and stay out of the conflict.
What do Egyptians care anyway? They are NOT Arab and do not directly identify with the Palestinians anyway.
Israel is criticized for its actions because it is openly defying UN resolutions while encouraging the US to destroy one of their enemies (and not the enemy of the US) for guess what...yes, DEFYING UN RESOLUTIONS. How Ironic...don't you think?
2Thick said:
Don't identify LOL! They are running a TV mini-series this week about the truth of the "Protocols of Zion". It's only been proven a fake 37000 times.
This client state doctrine dates back to Nixon's foreign policy. It worked well for a time, but now a lot of client states are pissed off.
The money to Israel (and egypt, to an extent) can be thought of as a defense department subsidy, if that helps you sleep at night.
Keeping things in perspective, it will take 170 years of this aid to equal the cost of one year of Social Security.
Doktor Bollix
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2 Thick, yeah that's why they get the aid. So what?
The only objections to Israel are not it's defiance of a few UN resolutions, it's very existence is the issue. The Israelis are smart enough to know that courting approval and being nice won't get you anywhere with people who want to destroy you no matter what and see concessions as a sign of weakness.
The Egyptians are Arab by assimilation as are most of the Arab peoples outside of the Arabian peninsula. Ethnically most of their ancestry is not Arab but they now speak Arabic and have adopted Arab culture, most of them describe themselves as Arab as do say Moroccans but some don't. They are a key component of the "Arab street". I agree that their leaders have never done anything but fuck the Palestinians in the ass, but there is a lot of sympathy for them among the people judging from all the pro-palestinian demonstrations and riots in Cairo.
The only objections to Israel are not it's defiance of a few UN resolutions, it's very existence is the issue. The Israelis are smart enough to know that courting approval and being nice won't get you anywhere with people who want to destroy you no matter what and see concessions as a sign of weakness.
The Egyptians are Arab by assimilation as are most of the Arab peoples outside of the Arabian peninsula. Ethnically most of their ancestry is not Arab but they now speak Arabic and have adopted Arab culture, most of them describe themselves as Arab as do say Moroccans but some don't. They are a key component of the "Arab street". I agree that their leaders have never done anything but fuck the Palestinians in the ass, but there is a lot of sympathy for them among the people judging from all the pro-palestinian demonstrations and riots in Cairo.
Y_lifter
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I think back in the 40's when this all really came to a UN head, Israel was like the little kid on the block surrounded by bullies.
The US, UN and UK came in as the big brother to make sure they were safe.
Now, Israel is able to protect itself and in fact are one of the best war fighers in the area. Best Spy's etc.
And so, they should be allowed to slowly take care of themselves over time with less world envolvement.
The US, UN and UK came in as the big brother to make sure they were safe.
Now, Israel is able to protect itself and in fact are one of the best war fighers in the area. Best Spy's etc.
And so, they should be allowed to slowly take care of themselves over time with less world envolvement.
GinNJuice
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MattTheSkywalker said:
I really don't like how people immediatly start going off on tangents when there is a clear question/issue to be discussed.
I KNOW we spend money on Egypt, several other countries, and thousands of programs.
I asked a simple question why do we give billions of dollars to ISREAL!
If you want to talk about other countries, then let's make separate threads for them, I was asking about ISREAL.
Matt,
You seem to simplify this as a defense department subsidy, or more correctly defence contrators.............
........... If that's the only reason we give them money, then I would rather give the defense contractors the money directly for R&D. That way there wouldn't be any losses of Cost Of Sales.
You have to tell me there is some other reason we give them that kind of money. Because I believe their economy could be self-sufficient.
Doktor Bollix
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Not seeing how you can equate the right to exist with the right to commit genocide, nuclear blackmail, export Islamic fascism etc.
Plus there's the national self-interest. The US has subverted legitimate governments so American fruit companies wouldn't take a beating on the price of bananas and the Middle-East is on a whole different plane of importance than bananas.
Plus there's the national self-interest. The US has subverted legitimate governments so American fruit companies wouldn't take a beating on the price of bananas and the Middle-East is on a whole different plane of importance than bananas.
Doktor Bollix said:
Iran is a sovereign country that is anti-Islamist. The people are against Arabic Islam and have adapted their beliefs into a secular society that makes Turkey look like it is controlled by the Taliban. The only ones that are extreme are the Mollahs who are trying to hold on to their power. There is no proof (beyond speculation) that Iran is invloved in terrorism.
North Korea is not using Nuclear blackmail. They are a sovereign country that is tired of being bullied by other countries with bigger guns. Plus, they know that they would not survive without international aid and are only making sure that they have enough power to thwart the US and their "interests."
Israel is committing genocide...or at very best trying to ethnically cleanse Israel. That is very ironic to say the least.
Doktor Bollix
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2Thick said:
This is a joke right?
Just let know.
"Israel receives $1.8 billion in military aid" or that "Israel receives $1.2 billion in economic aid." Both statements were true, but since they were never combined to give us the complete total of annual U.S. aid to Israel, they also were lies--true lies.
Recently Americans have begun to read and hear that "Israel receives $3 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid." That's true. But it's still a lie. The problem is that in fiscal 1997 alone, Israel received from a variety of other U.S. federal budgets at least $525.8 million above and beyond its $3 billion from the foreign aid budget, and yet another $2 billion in federal loan guarantees. So the complete total of U.S. grants and loan guarantees to Israel for fiscal 1997 was $5,525,800,000.
ISRAEL RECIEVES ABOUT 5.5 BILLION A YEAR!!!!
Recently Americans have begun to read and hear that "Israel receives $3 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid." That's true. But it's still a lie. The problem is that in fiscal 1997 alone, Israel received from a variety of other U.S. federal budgets at least $525.8 million above and beyond its $3 billion from the foreign aid budget, and yet another $2 billion in federal loan guarantees. So the complete total of U.S. grants and loan guarantees to Israel for fiscal 1997 was $5,525,800,000.
ISRAEL RECIEVES ABOUT 5.5 BILLION A YEAR!!!!
Doktor Bollix said:
I am dead serious.
Have you done any research outisde of North America?
It is a given that most info about situations outside of our immideiate orders are biased, but you really do not see the whole situation until you do your homework in all of the areas affacted...in short, get all 3 sides of the story.
ISRAEL RECIEVES ABOUT 5.5 BILLION A YEAR!!!!
AND WHAT DOES THE US GET OUT OF IT? NOTHING but HATE from ISLAMIC EXTERMISTS.
PS - EGYPT RECIEVES ABOUT 2.2 BILLION A YEAR, look at the sizes of the countries, If it wasnt for the US israel would have been a goner long ago. Even with all this aid they are suffering economically.
AND WHAT DOES THE US GET OUT OF IT? NOTHING but HATE from ISLAMIC EXTERMISTS.
PS - EGYPT RECIEVES ABOUT 2.2 BILLION A YEAR, look at the sizes of the countries, If it wasnt for the US israel would have been a goner long ago. Even with all this aid they are suffering economically.
ImSoBig said:
Yawn.
Islamic extremists hate their own geovernments as much as they hate us.
Doktor Bollix
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2Thick said:
What about the Islamic Revolution of 1979? What about the hardline religious autocracy which squashes all dissent? What about the tens of thousands of Iranian children who held hands and walked through the mine-fields singing of their joy at entering paradise during the Iran-Iraq war? What about Hizbollah in Lebanon and the 10,000 Katyusha surface to surface missiles Iran has supplied them which could destroy a chunk of northern Israel (according to European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana?). Iran is no way secular in the same manner as Turkey, that's fantasy and I know you know better.
Who is North Korea bullied by again? The 2 million N. Koreans who starved to death recently were victims of their own government, and I know the inhabitants of Seoul don't really feel like bullies when they contemplate the array of N. Korean artillery that could destroy the city in a couple of hours nukes or no nukes.
As for Israel committing genocide and ethnic cleansing, the numbers just don't support this, at that rate the job will never, ever get done. I think they could do better if they were actually trying, right?
Doktor Bollix said:
Israelis killed: 600
Palestinians killed: 1600
percentage of civilians killec by israel: 57%
(this includes protestors, violent protestors, and medical staff who are not actually combatants)
percentage of civilians killed by palestinians: 70.3%
(Israeli soldiers at check point who are not combatant but are in uniform were considered not considered civilians.)
http://americankaiser.blogspot.com/...e.html#77097687
these are old numbers, i dont have the updated numbers yet, Israel IS NO ANGEL!!!!!!!!! They make the suicide bombers ablitiy of killing civilians look bad.
Doktor Bollix said:
That was a direct result of the CIA bringing in the exiled hardliners from France back because the Shah refused to allow the US and British petrol companies exclusive drilling rights.
The people may have not been the happiest bunch of fools under the Shah but they were better off than they are now...thank you USA!
Doktor Bollix said:
The USSR did the same thing in order to further their government. Just because you subscribe to the western fantasy that every human being is a special snowflake that deserves more rights than the nation as a whole does not mean that the sacrifice of some of the population is not a beneficial means to a greater end.
Prometheus
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the only acceptable statement is that engaging in this discussion proves you are a racist and an anti-semite.
Doktor Bollix said:
Israel is constantly expanding by building settlements in Palestinian territory (against UN RESOLUTIONS) and castrating any Arabs that happen to live in between two Israeli positions. Just because they are not being killed does not mean that a cleansing is not taking place.
Doktor Bollix
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2Thick said:
Iran doesn't sell weapons to Lebanon. It supplies Hizbollah, a radical Islamic fascist organization opposed to the legitimate government of Lebanon, with weapons.
Never been to Iran, never will, until the people toss the Mullahs out it's not an appealing holiday destination, please don't start with the circular logic, it's childish. I'm amazed post 9/11 at the simpleminded faith some people still place in the omnipotence of the CIA.
Genocide has one result: lots and lots of dead bodies. So where the fuck are they? As for keeping scores like a basketball game, and the one with the higher bodycount gets to claim genocide, that's not it. Genocide is Rwandan teachers locking the doors to the school and incinerating all the students, neighbors hacking the hamstrings of other neighbors with machetes because they are so tired from butchering they lack the energy to do it right so they take a break and come back later. To call the low level conflict of Israel genocide is to deny the experience of real genocide victims. It's a matter of respect.
Doktor Bollix said:
Are you kidding me? Hizbollah holds the majority of the seats in the lebanese parliment, they are the government why would they oppose it?, its not only a military function, it has differnt wings, like military, excetutive, political, judicial.
And Hizbollah has a history of attacking military instillations and not civilians.
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Prometheus
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2Thick said:
sorry - that should have read "proves ONE IS a racist..." - it wasn't directed at anyone or intended as an accusation.
Doktor Bollix said:
That is a falsehood. And even if it were true, one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
Plus, since most of the money spent on US arms is bought with money borrowed from US sources, technically, the US is freely supplying Israel with arms.
Doktor Bollix said:
So an exiled leader and all of his followers just danced their way to Tehran and everybody just cheered for their new oppressive theocracy?
How about the declassified CIA files that show that CIA agents paid Palestinians to come to Tehran and march around every few days with an empty coffin and yell that the Shah was killing innocent people who dissented?
BTW- You do not know at all the level secularism in Iran, so why do you keep thinking that they are in any way religious?
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2Thick said:
Totally true. They fire off a few Katysushas every once in a while as they've been doing for years and their own propoganda backs it up. The Iranians fly 747s full of them into Damascus all the time. Secretaries of State since Warren Christopher have bitched about this, it's hardly news, but the resurgence in the hardliners in Tehran has led to an escalation and pleas for moderation from the Europeans.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. They are my terrorists. You have a problem with that?
Doktor Bollix said:
Hizbollah holds the majority of the seats in the lebanese parliment, they are the government why would they oppose it?, its not only a military function, it has differnt wings, like military, excetutive, political, judicial.
And Hizbollah has a history of attacking military instillations and not civilians.
GinNJuice said:Here we go again with the tangents
Can ANYONE answer the question? Why does the US give Isreal 3.5+ billion a year..... and what is the benefit of that investment???
The only pitiful answer I heard was that it is a subsity to the defence program
Okay, I will try but it will cause some shit.
The Jewish Congress and Ba'nai Birth have used both people in key political and financial positions to influence legislation that is favorable to Israel.
It is pure dirty politics. It is no coincidence that Clinton was very PRO-Israeli and now his wife is a senator of New York due mainly to strong Jewish support.
People in key position with power and influence. Jewish people tend to be highly educated and very socially alert (especially when helping the Jewish community). Therefore, even thought there are only 6 million Jews in the US, they carry with them a very large amount of influence.
GinNJuice said:
Their economy is self sufficient.
In a way, it is money for R&D. Israeli scientists are among the best in the world - many of these are former Soviet scientists. (It's a long tradition: Niels Bohr, Einstein, Oppenheimer, all jews)
Israelis do a lot of work for us that way. They are (militarily) in the situation of continual urban combat, whereas it is very tough for us to gather data on the effectiveness of different systems in the urban environment. Israel can do that every day in live fire exercises.
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ImSoBig said:
Half the seats are reserved for Christians, they fought a civil war over this remember?, among the Muslim half numerous political organizations exist. Hizbollah are but one faction.
Katyushas are not a precise weapon they are Russian world war II surplus surface to surface rockets, the ones that make the whooping noise, you can't target anything with them smaller than a couple of square miles. Strictly a terror weapon.
2Thick said:
Well, then explain this:
1. The Ayatollah Khameini is known as teh "Supreme Ruler". when your Supreme Ruler has the name "Ayatollah" in his title, it is hard to dispute that there is a theocracy.
2,. President Khatami of Iran (himself a Mullah) was elected with 77% of the vote, a landslide. Hei si considered a moderate.
3. The true ruling body of Iran is the Guardian Council, and its members are appointed by the Supreme Ruler. The Guardian Council controls the courts and the military. The Guardian Council recently picked 2 members who were despised by the people of Iran. yet rather than acquiesce, the council actually threatened to remove khatami, at which point the people capitualted.
who has the power?
Doktor Bollix
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2Thick said:
Whatever happened to one man's terrorist being another man's freedom fighter?
I'm starting to agree about the guy who keeps harping on about the tangents.
I think I'll move to Canada, all that guilt free moral outrage that everyone except Americans can apparently indulge in sounds great.
GinNJuice said:Here we go again with the tangents
Can ANYONE answer the question? Why does the US give Isreal 3.5+ billion a year..... and what is the benefit of that investment???
The only pitiful answer I heard was that it is a subsity to the defence program
Its because of Israeli influence over in the US.
If you look carefully you'll find that there are certain people
OF JEWISH DESCENT who make the policy decisions regarding
high finance.
Its basically comes down to influence peddling at the highest levels.
I'm sure there is some politician/policy maker with something
to hide that is being blackmailed by the Mossad.
Its "Do this......" or else......face disgrace.
Fonz
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According to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us."
At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."
The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public relations disaster."
"every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."
And we support this man.......
At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."
The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public relations disaster."
"every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."
And we support this man.......
Doktor Bollix
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ImSoBig said:
You really believe that elderly piece of propaganda, that was a hoax like all the jews in NY staying home on 9/11. I guess the truth is more important to some people than others.
I just heard on the O'reily factor the other night that over 1/4 of all taxpayers money each year is either stolen or missing----and this happens every year---------Their is just too much money going into the system and know one is being accountable for it......So 3.5 billion to Isreal really means jack-----
Fonz said:
Self-sufficient need not mean home-grown. Where would teh US economy be without exports/imports?
it;s a world economy (for the first world, anyway) and Israel does not need handouts. They need trade, but then again so does everyone, don't they?
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dballer
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You guys are all racists.. and.. and bigots.. and you must be NAZIS... cause... cause.... cause you asked some questions about Israel!!!! And we all know not to do that.
So, keep your mouth shut and take it in the ass like the rest of the "GOOD" non-racist Americans.
So, keep your mouth shut and take it in the ass like the rest of the "GOOD" non-racist Americans.
2Thick said:
By that logic you have just justified everything ever done in human history as "OK".
Since when is "do what thou wilt" yourphilosophy?
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dballer
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Like.. what the Nazis did was bad... but what Israel is doing is not??
Doktor Bollix
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ImSoBig said:
That's where you're wrong Chico, I'm not assuming anything, some sources are more authorative than others, that's all.
dballer said:
2Thick is saying:
"A bad can be a good for someone else", eliminates any concept of good or bad, and shows 2Thick's amateurism as well as lack of knowledge.
After all, September 11th was good for Osama, so it wasn't really "bad", was it? Not by 2Thick's assertion. Likewise the Holocaust (good for German economy), and child molesters (good for the molester) etc etc Anything can be justified that way.
You seem to come back to the Israeli "slaughter" of Palestinains and/or Arabs. If you're talking about large scale killing of Palestinians, your discussion should start with Jordan's King Hussein, who slaughterde 50,000 of them outright when they demanded a state from Jordan.
After that, you should mention Syria's Hafez Assad, who killed 30,000 of them for the same reason. Yet you never bring this up. Guess it doesn't fit your agenda to talk about the biggest killers of Palestinians being Muslims.
Israel is not near these numbers, and they are involved in armed conflict, which is different than outright slaughter.
As to Arabs: Saddam is the biggest Arab killer since the Crusades. After that, the Mongols. Israel pales in comparison as an Arab killer.
I'm done with this. Yawn....
go fix a car or something.
Fonz said:
Come on.........
That was uncalled for.
Fonz
I know.
MattTheSkywalker said:
Not quite. You need to think a little harder when I write, otherwise you will make little mistakes like the post above...
When a Palestinian blows himself up in order to further his people's goal of a nation of Palestine, he is a freedom fighter.
When a person hijacks a plane and runs it into a building, then that is a form of terrorism because there is no freedom there to fight for in NYC for those Arabs.
That is merely one example. By today's standards, the American colonists would be terrorists when in fact they were fighting for their freedoms.
The Basque movement is Spain is a freedom fighter's movement.
The IRA is a freedom's fighter's movement.
If you cannot tell the difference between an IRA "event" and a child molester, then you are a few fags short of a pack.
2Thick said:
Right, No freedom in NYC. They were fighting for freedom from US occupation in Saudi, according to OBL.
Don't make inane statements and then run backwards to qualify them.
MattTheSkywalker said:
Right, No freedom in NYC. They were fighting for freedom from US occupation in Saudi, according to OBL.
Don't make inane statements and then run backwards to qualify them.
Wrong captain. I know you are slow to pick up patterns so i will re-cap. If they were to attack an American base in Saudi (or even the mid-east) then that would be freedom fightinh. The goal of the plane tricks was to scare and that is all.
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2Thick said:
the goal of OBL in regards to TWC was to senstize americans to his agenda. he knew that as long as people watched other attacks(kobar towers, uss cole, etc.) on fox and cnn while eating bon-bons on the couch that they would be de-sensitized by the TV. his goal was to bring it to thier doorsteps thereby forcing people to question our presence in saudi. i would say he purposely recruited as many saudi nationals(both as monetary supporters and hi-jackers) as possible to further our questionable relationship with saudi.
in short, TWC was planned to enhance his agenda.
p.s. was the attack on the USS cole done by a freedom fighter? was the bombing of the kobar towers in saudi done by freedom fighters?
2thick can you think back 20 years ago to THE ISLAMIC REVOLUTION? Iran is a THEOCRATIC REPUBLIC and is more moderate than Turkey?2Thick said:
-With abiding faith in the vital importance of women in society, Atatürk launched many reforms to give Turkish women equal rights and opportunities. The new Civil Code, adopted in 1926, abolished polygamy and recognized the equal rights of women in divorce, custody, and inheritance. The entire educational system from the grade school to the university became coeducational. Atatürk greatly admired the support that the national liberation struggle received from women and praised their many contributions: " In Turkish society, women have not lagged behind men in science, scholarship, and culture. Perhaps they have even gone further ahead." He gave women the same opportunities as men, including full political rights. In the mid-1930s, 18 women, among them a villager, were elected to the national parliament. Later, Turkey had the world's first women supreme court justice
2Thick said:
if it was just to scare, then their would be no reason for any other terror-attacks......It goes a lot deeper then just scaring us....They wanted to see what would happen to our economy....And future attacks will be based on how we re-acted......Scare is only part of it......if they hit us hard enough all across the country at the same time....Our economy will shut down possibly long enough for us to turn on each other---and that is their main goal......
Wombat said:
Hmmmm......the US has made several blunders, but the worst one of them all is that they never did tend to view a DIRECT ECONMIC ATTACK as a matter of national security.
European nations understand this readily from past history.
The 9/11 was a DIRECT ECONOMIC ATTACK.
Make no mistake about it. Look what happened after 9/11.
The airlines went DOWN THE DRAIN.
Fonz
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Fonz said:
airliners were going down the drain before 9-11 fonz. the economy has had no long term detrimental effect from 9-11. i dont believe it was meant so much as an economic attack as it was to bring the issue right to americans front doorstep. before 9-11 how much did you hear amricans question our presence in the mid east. most people couldnt tell you who OBL was. now those intials are as identifiable as JFK. they knew they would get americans attention. it wasnt happening with previous attacks(kobar towers, the embassies in tanzania and kenya, uss cole). americans didnt understand that OBL had declared a jihad on american citizens, the only way was to hit the states.
2Thick said:
You made a dumb statement. Now you're backpedaling. On to another thread.
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Fonz said:
I think it's well beyond an 'economic' attack. Their goal was to do what all terrorist aim to do - instill fear in to people.
I for one abstained from a large gathering in my town, that was just 5 weeks after 9/11. Why? I did not feel comfortable standing in the middle of a large crowd (this even draws 100,000 + every year) with the thought that something might happen.
Did the attack have economic reprocussions? Absolutely. It damn near bankrupted the airlines, hurt an already weak stock market, and affected tourism all around the globe.
