can proviron + nolva cut it for AI?

[rambleon]

I just started a cycle of
w 1-12: 200 mg tren e EW
w 1-12: 500 mg test e EW
w 1-6 50 mg var ED
w-7-12 100 mg winny depot EOD (or 50 mg ED havent decided yet).

i got some light gyno symptoms on my last cycle which was a sust only 1000 mg EW which i did without AI (dumbass!). That is: I got a small lump in the tit but nothing spectacular. It's mostly gone since i came off.

As i my budget is maxed out i cant really afford a-dex.

Will a combo of nolva and proviron cut it when my aas doses arent higher than this?

Ant thoughts appreciated!

 

[nydj66]

Now that you've gotten that lump, it will get prgressively worse with each cycle unless you keep estrogen low enough to prevent it (I was in the same situation).

Proviron has not been a good enough AI to prevent gyno for me in the past and you really don't want to run nolvadex with tren as it upregulates progesterone receptors.

Besides, new information is surfacing that nolvadex may not be as safe as previously thought.

You're best bet for an AI is aromasin which can be pricey (but no more so than proviron). 25mg/day is the standard dosage.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Winstrol also lowers SHBG so you may be cool. You can try some UG liquid dex though I can't vouche for it.

Having existing gyno may be the ONLY reason to use nolva.