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thanks.

nobody on this forum recieves a daily handful of insults and flames the me. I have even gotten death threats in pms. I don't care why? Because this is fake, get it...Its like interactive television in which your the char.

second I rarely attack anyone without being insulted first, many new members will take the opportunity the flame me just to fit in. Again I could care less..why?

Because I have a life,friends, family outside of this board, again I come on EF chat to laugh, have fun be silly.

In fact only two flame fests have really gotten me made, Star calling me out on my dec. to post about how Kamal died. And this latest bullshit with Bikinimomma.

Ever wonder why anyone who talks to me off the boards or who has met me in real life, has nothing but good things to say about me... because the HI addy is not my true personality. But I really don't choose to show the real me in a public chat forum. In fact I came on EF more then a year ago with the real me, remember the poetry, the romatic posts...guess what I got flammed to shit.

Besides how many people really want to know what a cyber persons fav. color is? Please, people live for drama, and when the boards slow I will bring it. You know another poster creates drama on person, Havoc. self admitted.

And about my ego, if you call an ego being proud of turning your body from frail and weak to something I am proud of then fuck yea I have an ego. I bust my ass everyday, thats waking up in cold weather and running sprints, thats eating another plate even though you feel like throwing up, thats not drinking even though you work in a bar, thats doing three more deadlifts...thats something 99 percent of people on this planet refuse to do, if thats what you call an ego...then mine is quite large,

I built this body from scratch...5 long years of hard work...a majority of them natty. 136-to a peek of 224, that is something I will always be proud of.

peace
 
i didnt read your whole post, but you need to stop whining:p
 
HighIntensity said:
thanks.

nobody on this forum recieves a daily handful of insults and flames the me. I have even gotten death threats in pms. I don't care why? Because this is fake, get it...Its like interactive television in which your the char.

second I rarely attack anyone without being insulted first, many new members will take the opportunity the flame me just to fit in. Again I could care less..why?

Because I have a life,friends, family outside of this board, again I come on EF chat to laugh, have fun be silly.

In fact only two flame fests have really gotten me made, Star calling me out on my dec. to post about how Kamal died. And this latest bullshit with Bikinimomma.

Ever wonder why anyone who talks to me off the boards or who has met me in real life, has nothing but good things to say about me... because the HI addy is not my true personality. But I really don't choose to show the real me in a public chat forum. In fact I came on EF more then a year ago with the real me, remember the poetry, the romatic posts...guess what I got flammed to shit.

Besides how many people really want to know what a cyber persons fav. color is? Please, people live for drama, and when the boards slow I will bring it. You know another poster creates drama on person, Havoc. self admitted.

And about my ego, if you call an ego being proud of turning your body from frail and weak to something I am proud of then fuck yea I have an ego. I bust my ass everyday, thats waking up in cold weather and running sprints, thats eating another plate even though you feel like throwing up, thats not drinking even though you work in a bar, thats doing three more deadlifts...thats something 99 percent of people on this planet refuse to do, if thats what you call an ego...then mine is quite large,

I built this body from scratch...5 long years of hard work...a majority of them natty. 136-to a peek of 224, that is something I will always be proud of.

peace

its ok H.I....you just need a hug:family:
 
HighIntensity said:


I think someone has little a bell that rings when I post....

nah, I have a little bell that rings when I walk though. I wear it around my neck. actually, come to think of it, I guess it isn't all that little.

don't get me wrong - everytime you post, trust me, I'm whacking off like you wouldn't believe.

with all the spelling and grammar abuses up there, I'm not entirely sure I got it all - but you are basically saying "I, king swolio, don't take all of this seriously, it doesn't bother me when I get "flammmed" - yet I need to continually post shit like this to let you know that it doesn't bother me"

tell us what you really think.

is it this? "I feel pretty, oh so pretty, I feel pretty, and witty, and gay..."
 
HappyScrappy said:


nah, I have a little bell that rings when I walk though. I wear it around my neck. actually, come to think of it, I guess it isn't all that little.

don't get me wrong - everytime you post, trust me, I'm whacking off like you wouldn't believe.

with all the spelling and grammar abuses up there, I'm not entirely sure I got it all - but you are basically saying "I, king swolio, don't take all of this seriously, it doesn't bother me when I get "flammmed" - yet I need to continually post shit like this to let you know that it doesn't bother me"

tell us what you really think.

is it this? "I feel pretty, oh so pretty, I feel pretty, and witty, and gay..."


thanks for the cliff notes cheif...while the flames do not bother me, NF basically thinking I am a dick did. When someone I respect posts something negative about me, I usally take a step back. This post was an attempt to clear the air.

with that said you really look great these days happy, kudos.
 
martha, I smell sarcasm.

I don't want you to think "I am a dick did" so I will just give you a big hug and then grab your ass and run and hide behind your couch.
these twisted games we play never get old.
 
Hey, one of the reasons I lovve this board is because there is no PC crap here...everyone speaks it like it is, and the members are also very funny.

HI, I say bring it, and I can always put you on ignore, but I won't cause most of the shit is funny to read...
 
HighIntensity said:
thanks.

nobody on this forum recieves a daily handful of insults and flames the me. I have even gotten death threats in pms. I don't care why? Because this is fake, get it...Its like interactive television in which your the char.

second I rarely attack anyone without being insulted first, many new members will take the opportunity the flame me just to fit in. Again I could care less..why?

Because I have a life,friends, family outside of this board, again I come on EF chat to laugh, have fun be silly.

In fact only two flame fests have really gotten me made, Star calling me out on my dec. to post about how Kamal died. And this latest bullshit with Bikinimomma.

Ever wonder why anyone who talks to me off the boards or who has met me in real life, has nothing but good things to say about me... because the HI addy is not my true personality. But I really don't choose to show the real me in a public chat forum. In fact I came on EF more then a year ago with the real me, remember the poetry, the romatic posts...guess what I got flammed to shit.

Besides how many people really want to know what a cyber persons fav. color is? Please, people live for drama, and when the boards slow I will bring it. You know another poster creates drama on person, Havoc. self admitted.

And about my ego, if you call an ego being proud of turning your body from frail and weak to something I am proud of then fuck yea I have an ego. I bust my ass everyday, thats waking up in cold weather and running sprints, thats eating another plate even though you feel like throwing up, thats not drinking even though you work in a bar, thats doing three more deadlifts...thats something 99 percent of people on this planet refuse to do, if thats what you call an ego...then mine is quite large,

I built this body from scratch...5 long years of hard work...a majority of them natty. 136-to a peek of 224, that is something I will always be proud of.

peace


I'll tell you what dude. you just gained my respect.
 
HighIntensity said:

And about my ego, if you call an ego being proud of turning your body from frail and weak to something I am proud of then fuck yea I have an ego. I bust my ass everyday, thats waking up in cold weather and running sprints, thats eating another plate even though you feel like throwing up, thats not drinking even though you work in a bar, thats doing three more deadlifts...thats something 99 percent of people on this planet refuse to do, if thats what you call an ego...then mine is quite large,

I built this body from scratch...5 long years of hard work...a majority of them natty. 136-to a peek of 224, that is something I will always be proud of.

peace

I'm willing to bet 99% of the people that flame you look worse than you.

Thats what makes me laugh on chat.

This is a "fitness" forum after all............

People always bash what they can't attain.

Thats my view on the matter anyways.

Fonz
 
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Fonz said:


I'm willing to bet 99% of the people that flame you look worse than you.

Thats what makes me laugh on chat.

This is a "fitness" forum after all............

People always bash what they can't attain.

Thats my view on the matter anyways.

Fonz





Please tell me that was an attempt at humor. I seriously laughed out loud.
 
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starfish said:






Please tell me that was an attempt at humor. I seriously laughed out loud.

Err......OK Mrs. Fish why was it funny?

Bloody well true IMO.

Fonz
 
For the record I am way better in real life than I come off as being on here. I know that here I sometimes come off as a loser, but I'm really not. In the real world everyone likes me, my mom doesn't beat me, and I get laid by three different hot women every day. I'm cool you see. Also, I'm sure many of you picture me wearing sandals in the real world, well, I NEVER wear sandals. EVER.
Also, I don't dislike any of you...except Bullit that ass-kisser.
 
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Fonz said:


Err......OK Mrs. Fish why was it funny?

Bloody well true IMO.

Fonz




It was funny... But then you probably thought DNP and anorexics was a good idea too. Didn't ya!
 
I have to admit this is the only bbing chatboard I know of where people get cut down for being too into bodybuilding or being happy with their physique...1/2 of the people here literally DO NOT workout on a steady basis
 
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starfish said:





It was funny... But then you probably thought DNP and anorexics was a good idea too. Didn't ya!

I'm not a hater.

I don't care if you're anorexic, bulemic, fat, skinny or whatever.

If you have a mind, thats all that matters.

Your mind makes a choice, not your stereotype image.

The internet is about the free exchange of information, not
about suppressing it.

Fonz
 
Nathan said:
For the record I am way better in real life than I come off as being on here. I know that here I sometimes come off as a loser, but I'm really not. In the real world everyone likes me, my mom doesn't beat me, and I get laid by three different hot women every day. I'm cool you see. Also, I'm sure many of you picture me wearing sandals in the real world, well, I NEVER wear sandals. EVER.
Also, I don't dislike any of you...except Bullit that ass-kisser.

For the record, Nathan reminds me most of myself.....LOL

In real life, I'm really passive. You can literally bug the hell out of me and I won't react.

Fonz
 
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Fonz said:


I'm not a hater.

I don't care if you're anorexic, bulemic, fat, skinny or whatever.

If you have a mind, thats all that matters.

Your mind makes a choice, not your stereotype image.

The internet is about the free exchange of information, not
about suppressing it.

Fonz





Now that is a bunch of BS! Exchanging info! LMAO! You had an agenda.


Well, I know one who ended up in the hospital and others who say they were ripped off so you should be proud. You really helped them with your wealth of information. :rolleyes:


....and you are complete moron about anorexia.
 
Fonz said:


For the record, Nathan reminds me most of myself.....LOL

In real life, I'm really passive. You can literally bug the hell out of me and I won't react.

Fonz

I'm not sure how I feel about that. I think it makes me feel constipated to be honest. How odd. I seem to associate Fonz with the inability to deficate. Strange. :)
Honestly, I'm exactly like that in reality and I get it from my damn dad. Only if you've known him for a long time can you tell when someone is annoying him. He's probably still married to my mom only because he doesn't want to deal with that awkward break-up conversation. :) Is that you Fonz?
 
Nathan said:


I'm not sure how I feel about that. I think it makes me feel constipated to be honest. How odd. I seem to associate Fonz with the inability to deficate. Strange. :)
Honestly, I'm exactly like that in reality and I get it from my damn dad. Only if you've known him for a long time can you tell when someone is annoying him. He's probably still married to my mom only because he doesn't want to deal with that awkward break-up conversation. :) Is that you Fonz?

I get it from having a large family. :)

Pesky sisters, cousins etc.... you just tune everything out...LOL

Fonz
 
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starfish said:







....and you are complete moron about anorexia.

Maybe.

But then I could also say you're a complete moron about bodybuilding couldn't I?

Fonz
 
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Fonz said:


I'm not a hater.

I don't care if you're anorexic, bulemic, fat, skinny or whatever.

If you have a mind, thats all that matters.

Your mind makes a choice, not your stereotype image.

The internet is about the free exchange of information, not
about suppressing it.

Fonz

Very well said Fonz.

It cracks me up how shallow people are on this board. People like myself, Hi Intensity and yourself(Fonz) probably have forgotten more about nutrition and training than most people on this site will ever even learn.
 
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freak daddy said:


It cracks me up how shallow people are on this board. People like myself, Hi Intensity and yourself(Fonz) probably have forgotten more about nutrition and training than most people on this site will ever even learn.


Yes....and everyone knows that bodybuilders have certainly cornered the market on being deep. lol
 
What the fuck is with all this hating on bodybuilders, this site is fucking ridiculous
 
It has less to do with knowledge and more to do with how it is presented. H.I. comes on here and ridicules people, mocks them, and basically acts like a complete asshole to other people, then he is shocked when people attack him.

If you feel the need to have an Internet persona at least be funny like Happy, Nathan, and a few others. You don't have to be a jerk.
 
Frackal said:
What the fuck is with all this hating on bodybuilders, this site is fucking ridiculous


I don't think there is any "hate" going on....just paybacks for all the slams that smaller guys get from bigger guys. Not everyone has the time, interest, genetics, or anabolics to get huge.

If you offered me 40 pounds of muscle for free, I would say no. I would take 15 though. The worship of hypertrophy and the adjoining condemnation of less than hypertrophic physiques comes across as a mental illness to me.

Actually bodybuilders suffer from a lack of appropriate production of myostatin. Then they trumpet their superior genetics. :rolleyes:

Brains and personality must accompany the physique if anyone wants a thumbs up from TB. Thats my .02 :)
 
big4life said:
It has less to do with knowledge and more to do with how it is presented. H.I. comes on here and ridicules people, mocks them, and basically acts like a complete asshole to other people, then he is shocked when people attack him.

If you feel the need to have an Internet persona at least be funny like Happy, Nathan, and a few others. You don't have to be a jerk.

OK.

I can agree to that.

But HI is never like that on the A board.

He does those types of post for kicks I'm sure. Comic relief so to speak.

Sometimes though, bluntness goes a long way.

Thats were HI comes in................ :)

He does have a good sense of humour IMO.

We all get in spats here from time to time. Its the nature of the chat beast. Opinions clash you get heated.....and so on.

The only problem I have with some chat people is that they
troll the board and don't even make a conscious effort to actually
LEARN something.

This is a FITNESS forum after all.

Fonz
 
Testosterone boy said:



I don't think there is any "hate" going on....just paybacks for all the slams that smaller guys get from bigger guys. Not everyone has the time, interest, genetics, or anabolics to get huge.

If you offered me 40 pounds of muscle for free, I would say no. I would take 15 though. The worship of hypertrophy and the adjoining condemnation of less than hypertrophic physiques comes across as a mental illness to me.

Actually bodybuilders suffer from a lack of appropriate production of myostatin. Then they trumpet their superior genetics. :rolleyes:

Brains and personality must accompany the physique if anyone wants a thumbs up from TB. Thats my .02 :)

How big are you?

Also, whats your definition of big?

I'm an athlete so 190lbs right now is pretty big for me.

I know some guys who are 150-160lbs that can bench 300lbs
and can give me a serious run for my money wrestling.

Bigger muscles does not equate to stronger.

Fonz
 
Lack of myostatin would = great genetics in terms of athletic goals. Not the vice/versa
 
Fonz said:


How big are you?

Also, whats your definition of big?

I'm an athlete so 190lbs right now is pretty big for me.

I know some guys who are 150-160lbs that can bench 300lbs
and can give me a serious run for my money wrestling.

Bigger muscles does not equate to stronger.

Fonz

Let me see, I got on the scale last February. I weighed 225 so I'm slim.

Big? I'd say a D cup is big.

I'm glad you do something with your muscles other than flex in front fo the mirror.

There are many types of strenght. Pushing, pulling, speed, and endurance are the big ones. Funny that we focus on the bench. IMO the the most worthless form of strenght there is unless you overhaul transmissions without a jack. Besides, I suck at the bench. :)
 
Testosterone boy said:


Let me see, I got on the scale last February. I weighed 225 so I'm slim.

Big? I'd say a D cup is big.

I'm glad you do something with your muscles other than flex in front fo the mirror.

There are many types of strenght. Pushing, pulling, speed, and endurance are the big ones. Funny that we focus on the bench. IMO the the most worthless form of strenght there is unless you overhaul transmissions without a jack. Besides, I suck at the bench. :)

225? Slim? You must be tall...... :)

I just used the bench numbers because they seem to be the benchmark everyone uses these days.

Soccer=endurance, speed,acceleration,finnesse,etc...

I started lifitng weights to better my kicking.....LOL

I can drill 35-yd'ers now no problem..

Fonz
 
velvett said:
I like big calves.

Mine are pretty much normal.

The only people I know with huge calves are overweight.

Overweight people have some serious calf development going.......LOL

Fonz
 
:) well, allow me to retort.



In fact only two flame fests have really gotten me made, Star calling me out on my dec. to post about how Kamal died.

---out of curiosity, was this about bababooey?


Ever wonder why anyone who talks to me off the boards or who has met me in real life, has nothing but good things to say about me... because the HI addy is not my true personality. But I really don't choose to show the real me in a public chat forum. In fact I came on EF more then a year ago with the real me, remember the poetry, the romatic posts...guess what I got flammed to shit.

---it seems that changing to a "fake" persona has not helped you one bit.


Besides how many people really want to know what a cyber persons fav. color is?

---my favorite color used to be red. however, i am not sure that i any longer have a favorite color now.


Please, people live for drama, and when the boards slow I will bring it.

---this makes you the drama queen.


And about my ego, if you call an ego being proud of turning your body from frail and weak to something I am proud of then fuck yea I have an ego. I bust my ass everyday, thats waking up in cold weather and running sprints, thats eating another plate even though you feel like throwing up, thats not drinking even though you work in a bar, thats doing three more deadlifts...thats something 99 percent of people on this planet refuse to do, if thats what you call an ego...then mine is quite large

---but apparently you have no respect for those who are proud of their own physique or how hard they push themselves. no matter what the circumstance, if they weigh less than you, they are an automatic "loser". this makes you an ASS. my lifting career is coming up on 3 years in a little over a month. give me two more years, i will make a guarantee to you that i will be bigger and stronger than you for my height, and all without the drastic supplementation you have used.


I built this body from scratch...5 long years of hard work...a majority of them natty. 136-to a peek of 224, that is something I will always be proud of.

---congratulations. but, you have stated that you have been lifting for 6 or 7 years i'm sure. also, considering your supplementation methods, one might expect you to be bigger. this can suggest that you really aren't all that great of a bodybuilder.


peace

---peace
 
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jesus 2 said:
:) well, allow me to retort.



In fact only two flame fests have really gotten me made, Star calling me out on my dec. to post about how Kamal died.

---out of curiosity, was this about bababooey?


Ever wonder why anyone who talks to me off the boards or who has met me in real life, has nothing but good things to say about me... because the HI addy is not my true personality. But I really don't choose to show the real me in a public chat forum. In fact I came on EF more then a year ago with the real me, remember the poetry, the romatic posts...guess what I got flammed to shit.

---it seems that changing to a "fake" persona has not helped you one bit.


Besides how many people really want to know what a cyber persons fav. color is?

---my favorite color used to be red. however, i am not sure that i any longer have a favorite color now.


Please, people live for drama, and when the boards slow I will bring it.

---this makes you the drama queen.


And about my ego, if you call an ego being proud of turning your body from frail and weak to something I am proud of then fuck yea I have an ego. I bust my ass everyday, thats waking up in cold weather and running sprints, thats eating another plate even though you feel like throwing up, thats not drinking even though you work in a bar, thats doing three more deadlifts...thats something 99 percent of people on this planet refuse to do, if thats what you call an ego...then mine is quite large

---but apparently you have no respect for those who are proud of their own physique or how hard they push themselves. no matter what the circumstance, if they weigh less than you, they are an automatic "loser". this makes you an ASS. my lifting career is coming up on 3 years in a little over a month. give me two more years, i will make a guarantee to you that i will be bigger and stronger than you for my height, and all without the drastic supplementation you have used.


I built this body from scratch...5 long years of hard work...a majority of them natty. 136-to a peek of 224, that is something I will always be proud of.

---congratulations. but, you have stated that you have been lifting for 6 or 7 years i'm sure. but considering your supplementation methods, one might expect you to be bigger. this can suggest that you really aren't all that great of a bodybuilder.


peace

---peace


just for the record I started lifting at age 20, but did not truely train till 22.

either way I have been lifting for 6 years, 4 with any true type of dedication.

and for the last time I have been useing aas since april of this year. Two cycles, one tren only....this last one was full of fake gear, so really I have not used supplementation all that much.

get it right, before you try and spit some facts.
 
i didn't get anything wrong. i said you have been lifting 6 or 7 years, and you just stated that you have been lifting 6 years. your drastic supplementation methods would include your mega-tren cycle and insulin use.

could you please answer the first question at the very beginning of my retort, please?


j2da2
 
Fonz said:


Mine are pretty much normal.

The only people I know with huge calves are overweight.

Overweight people have some serious calf development going.......LOL

Fonz


I suppose it would be based on what someone considers big.
I fancy grapefruit sized calves- yum yum...very sexy on a man.



I was always led to believe that calf size was mostly genetic.
 
Fonz said:

Sometimes though, bluntness goes a long way
Thats were HI comes in................ :)


But people being blunt with HI about being an occasional idiot, or having an undeservedly inflated ego is wrong? Bluntness is the reserved domain for HI and Citrus I guess. :rolleyes:



The only problem I have with some chat people is that they
troll the board and don't even make a conscious effort to actually
LEARN something.

How the fuck do you know what people are learning?
The learning process is not tied to the number of questions asked in the training/diet/anabolic sections of this site.
I visit the training and diet sections every day, yet rarely post there.
 
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Shut the fuck up HI.

If you actually built your body from "scratch", then you would have something to be proud of. But you used steroids, and I don't know you well enough to know why. I really don't have a problem with steroids in general. If someone has reached their genetic limit or needs it to compete successfully in powerlifting competetions, then I'm all for it. But for some amateur nobody to take them who haven't even come close to their limits is lame in my opinion.

So lose the "hardcore" attitude and all the bullshit about training hard and sticking to your diet. Because you didn't have the fucking determination and patience that many of the other bodybuilders that you "flamm" for weighing less then you. They are the ones who will one day be bigger then you, naturally, because they didn't supplement and cheat themselves.

So cut the bullshit HI because at the end of the night when you leave your bar and everyone you met that night forgets about the "hardcore, one more rep, wake up in the morning to run sprints but not before I shoot up some more insulin" bouncer, you mean nothing even to the people you flame on here for not having artificial shoulders as big as your own.
 
Bullit said:




How the fuck do you know what people are learning?
The learning process is not tied to the number of questions asked in the training/diet/anabolic sections of this site.
I visit the training and diet sections every day, yet rarely post there.

Not questions, but responses............

Fonz
 
velvett said:


I was always led to believe that calf size was mostly genetic.

the two people I've seen with the biggest calves ever were people that didn't train them.

neither of them were/are fat, and both of them have HUGE calves.

nearly all muscle development has genetic constraints to it.
once gene maninpulation shows up more, then you will really see some freaky shit.

there are genetic disorders that even have traits of large dense calves.
 
Fonz said:


Not questions, but responses............

Fonz

FONZ....THE LEARNING PROCESS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH QUESTIONS OR REPSONSES ON THE BOARDS OF ELITE. I WOULD RATHER GET MY FACTS CREDIBLE SOURCES AS OPPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO GIVES THEIR OPINION ON A MESSAGE BOARD. THATS WHY I DONT EVEN BOTHER READING OR POSTING ON THE A BOARD MUCH. IF SOMEONE ASKS A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING, HE/SHE WILL GET 100 REPLIES CONSISTING OF 99 DIFFERENT ANSWERS (OPINIONS USUALLY). SO WHY BOTHER!!!



KAYNE
 
KAYNE said:


FONZ....THE LEARNING PROCESS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH QUESTIONS OR REPSONSES ON THE BOARDS OF ELITE. I WOULD RATHER GET MY FACTS CREDIBLE SOURCES AS OPPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO GIVES THEIR OPINION ON A MESSAGE BOARD. THATS WHY I DONT EVEN BOTHER READING OR POSTING ON THE A BOARD MUCH. IF SOMEONE ASKS A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING, HE/SHE WILL GET 100 REPLIES CONSISTING OF 99 DIFFERENT ANSWERS (OPINIONS USUALLY). SO WHY BOTHER!!!



KAYNE

Yes, I know that....Kayne.
What I meant was that with a bit of common sense you get to know who actually knows what the hell they are talking about.

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


Yes, I know that....Kayne.
What I meant was that with a bit of common sense you get to know who actually knows what the hell they are talking about.

Fonz

TRUE, BUT THATS PROVIDING THAT YOU (ME) INVEST A LITTLE TIME IN READING THE BOARD TO DISCERN WHO KNOWS WHAT AND WHO IS JUST SPOUTING SHIT. SOMETHING OF WHICH I HAVENT DONE AND PROBABLY WILL NOT DO WHEN I CAN USE THAT TIME FOR SOMETHING MORE APPROPRIATE. LOL JUST TOO MANY PRICKS OVER THERE WHO TRY AND KISS TOO MUCH ASS. THEY ARE ALWAYS SAYING SHIT LIKE "USE THE SEARCH BUTTON" ON EVERY DAMN POST. SHIT, IF EVERYONE USED THE SEARCH BUTTON, THERE WOULDNT BE ANY POSTS ON THAT BOARD AT ALL. AND WHAT GETS ME IS THE THREADS DEDICATED TO "MODERATORS OF THE MONTH" AND SHIT LIKE THAT. IF A MOD HELPS YOU OUT, SEND A PM THANKING HIM IF YOU FEEL THE NEED. DONT DEDICATE A THREAD TO HIM BASICALLY SAYING "CAN I SUCK YOUR DICK" (THOUGH NOT IN THOSE WORDS).



KAYNE
 
Hoopsdaddy135 said:
Shut the fuck up HI.

If you actually built your body from "scratch", then you would have something to be proud of. But you used steroids, and I don't know you well enough to know why. I really don't have a problem with steroids in general. If someone has reached their genetic limit or needs it to compete successfully in powerlifting competetions, then I'm all for it. But for some amateur nobody to take them who haven't even come close to their limits is lame in my opinion.

So lose the "hardcore" attitude and all the bullshit about training hard and sticking to your diet. Because you didn't have the fucking determination and patience that many of the other bodybuilders that you "flamm" for weighing less then you. They are the ones who will one day be bigger then you, naturally, because they didn't supplement and cheat themselves.

So cut the bullshit HI because at the end of the night when you leave your bar and everyone you met that night forgets about the "hardcore, one more rep, wake up in the morning to run sprints but not before I shoot up some more insulin" bouncer, you mean nothing even to the people you flame on here for not having artificial shoulders as big as your own.

lol the shoulders are inplants....
 
Re: Re: can I just say something here...

jesus 2 said:


In fact only two flame fests have really gotten me made, Star calling me out on my dec. to post about how Kamal died.

---out of curiosity, was this about bababooey?

 
KAYNE said:


TRUE, BUT THATS PROVIDING THAT YOU (ME) INVEST A LITTLE TIME IN READING THE BOARD TO DISCERN WHO KNOWS WHAT AND WHO IS JUST SPOUTING SHIT. SOMETHING OF WHICH I HAVENT DONE AND PROBABLY WILL NOT DO WHEN I CAN USE THAT TIME FOR SOMETHING MORE APPROPRIATE. LOL JUST TOO MANY PRICKS OVER THERE WHO TRY AND KISS TOO MUCH ASS. THEY ARE ALWAYS SAYING SHIT LIKE "USE THE SEARCH BUTTON" ON EVERY DAMN POST. SHIT, IF EVERYONE USED THE SEARCH BUTTON, THERE WOULDNT BE ANY POSTS ON THAT BOARD AT ALL. AND WHAT GETS ME IS THE THREADS DEDICATED TO "MODERATORS OF THE MONTH" AND SHIT LIKE THAT. IF A MOD HELPS YOU OUT, SEND A PM THANKING HIM IF YOU FEEL THE NEED. DONT DEDICATE A THREAD TO HIM BASICALLY SAYING "CAN I SUCK YOUR DICK" (THOUGH NOT IN THOSE WORDS).



KAYNE

LMFAO....... :)

Kayne you always crack me up with your candor........LOL

I have free time now, but when I start grad school I won't be on very much.

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


LMFAO....... :)

Kayne you always crack me up with your candor........LOL

I have free time now, but when I start grad school I won't be on very much.

Fonz

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. I'M GRADUATING SOON SO I'M PRETTY BUSY MYSELF. THINKING OF GOING TO GRAD SCHOOL. GONNA SEE WHAT KIND OF JOB I CAN GET AND IF THEY'LL SEND ME. I'M TIRED OF PAYING FOR SCHOOL.



KAYNE
 
Fonz said:


Mine are pretty much normal.

The only people I know with huge calves are overweight.

Overweight people have some serious calf development going.......LOL

Fonz

Speak for yourself fonzmania, my calves are almost an exact mirror of my arm size, which is nice because they do that on their own. They are 17
 
Frackal said:


Speak for yourself fonzmania, my calves are almost an exact mirror of my arm size, which is nice because they do that on their own. They are 17

Lucky SOB then.

Soccer always keeps my calves normal(cardio). My Quads are also pretty much normal. Ripped? Yes, but normal.
There's no way in hell they'll grow unless I stop soccer.

Fonz
 
velvett said:



I suppose it would be based on what someone considers big.
I fancy grapefruit sized calves- yum yum...very sexy on a man.



I was always led to believe that calf size was mostly genetic.

I've been working on my genetically challenged calves pretty hard, and they are responding, but you're right Velvett, mostly genetics.

Mine look proportionate, but they look much better when i'm wearing heels......
 
Fonz said:


Lucky SOB then.

Soccer always keeps my calves normal(cardio). My Quads are also pretty much normal. Ripped? Yes, but normal.
There's no way in hell they'll grow unless I stop soccer.

Fonz

Sigh...it seems like only Frackal is blessed with the genetically perfect physique. Just ask him. :)
 
Fonz said:


Lucky SOB then.

Soccer always keeps my calves normal(cardio). My Quads are also pretty much normal. Ripped? Yes, but normal.
There's no way in hell they'll grow unless I stop soccer.

Fonz

Really? Most soccer players have great calves. You must be a goalkeeper........hahahaha.
 
Re: Re: Re: can I just say something here...

jesus 2 said:
In fact only two flame fests have really gotten me made, Star calling me out on my dec. to post about how Kamal died.

---out of curiosity, was this about bababooey?
 
vinylgroover said:


Really? Most soccer players have great calves. You must be a goalkeeper........hahahaha.

Calves? Not many.

Quads yes.

Roberto Carlos springs to mind there......LOL

Fonz
 
in college my arms were 15" or so and my calves were 18.5"
I was a runner.
now I have marginally larger arms and calves that are the same size.

usually the neck, arms, and calves are the same size if you retain proportion.

at least according to the classical proportions and all that.

as for soccer players and their calves - I'm with Fonz in that their quads are usually HUGE and ripped.
at least the guys at my college that went pro were that way.
 
Testosterone boy said:


Sigh...it seems like only Frackal is blessed with the genetically perfect physique. Just ask him. :)

lol no.... i have trouble gaining mass, but my body grows really symmetrical...but that couldbe because i train EVERY part equally hard
 
Frackal said:


lol no.... i have trouble gaining mass, but my body grows really symmetrical...but that couldbe because i train EVERY part equally hard

Well...no wonder you wish to be huge since your "organ" is apparently growing symmetrically.

How do you train it?
 
OH MY GOD

This thread is a rip.

HAHHAHAHAHA :goof:



Me are so much more verbose than women when they get all catty - ouuuuuuuu even intellectually catty.

Women just try and rip each other eyes out and when that can't be done they just try and steal their enemies mate, or plot out their revenge with some bribe money and a bottle of nair.



I still dig calves.

MMmmmmmmmmhmm.

Pair of short and those round delish calves rippling back and forth while those legs climb stairs....

*SLURP*
 
spentagn said:


post a pic

lol - one was my track coach in high school.

the other one is a board member - or I guess a former board member.
I don't think he comes on here much anymore.
big guy that works out and all - but didn't really work the calves - never understood how/why until I saw him in shorts when he helped me move. dude has huge calves.
 
velvett said:


I still dig calves.

MMmmmmmmmmhmm.

Pair of short and those round delish calves rippling back and forth while those legs climb stairs....

*SLURP*


You want to climb some stairs with me?;)

Although I would rather walk climb behind you.:p :p :p
 
Wow... Just when I think it'll never end, HI posts a thread and people go back and forth about whatever for 4 pages, and I'm sure this will keep going for a few more.

With that being said... HI has what, 8% BF, over 200lbs, looks solid, we've seen his pics... yet people give him shit because he is happy with his accomplishments. Fuck, I rip people's physiques down on a daily basis... No one is harder on me than myself... and even at the place HI's physique is, he's probably still pushing for more.

BTW, I have around 18 - 18.5" calves and only around 17 - 17.5" arms... and I ain't fat.... :)

C-ditty
 
Sorry....but the "genetic" argument may be made for ANY bodypart, not just calves....when I began training my quads were about 21 inches, had I used the genetic argument I believe that I would not have trained them nearly as hard....

....99% of those who bitch about a weak bodypart usually do not train them up to par with the other areas of their physique......calves, rear delts, and back in general are weak b/c you can't see those places when you train.

Frack - I remember you posting about thigh/calf ratio:

Calves should be 67-72% of quads.
 
Cornholio said:
Sorry....but the "genetic" argument may be made for ANY bodypart, not just calves....when I began training my quads were about 21 inches, had I used the genetic argument I believe that I would not have trained them nearly as hard....


Frack - I remember you posting about thigh/calf ratio:

Calves should be 67-72% of quads.

Suddenly we know whom Velvett speaks of. :idea:
 
Cornholio said:
Sorry....but the "genetic" argument may be made for ANY bodypart, not just calves....when I began training my quads were about 21 inches, had I used the genetic argument I believe that I would not have trained them nearly as hard....

....99% of those who bitch about a weak bodypart usually do not train them up to par with the other areas of their physique......calves, rear delts, and back in general are weak b/c you can't see those places when you train.

Frack - I remember you posting about thigh/calf ratio:

Calves should be 67-72% of quads.

I disagree on the calf issue.

Calves are NOTORIOUSLY hard bodyparts to grow.

Ask any person on the A-board. I will guarantee you a very high % of them say calves are a weak bodypart.

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


I disagree on the calf issue.

Calves are NOTORIOUSLY hard bodyparts to grow.

Ask any person on the A-board. I will guarantee you a very high % of them say calves are a weak bodypart.

Fonz

Why are they more genetically "sucky" than say forearms?

...I see less than a handfull of trainers hit calves to any degree.....the A board will be no different.
 
Cornholio said:
Sorry....but the "genetic" argument may be made for ANY bodypart, not just calves....when I began training my quads were about 21 inches, had I used the genetic argument I believe that I would not have trained them nearly as hard....

....99% of those who bitch about a weak bodypart usually do not train them up to par with the other areas of their physique......calves, rear delts, and back in general are weak b/c you can't see those places when you train.

Frack - I remember you posting about thigh/calf ratio:

Calves should be 67-72% of quads.


:kitty:



MMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEOW!
 
Cornholio said:


Why are they more genetically "sucky" than say forearms?

...I see less than a handfull of trainers hit calves to any degree.....the A board will be no different.


Damn...I thought you said you started with 21" calves.



Arnold speaks of the tremendous difficulty of building calves in his book. He said it is the hardest part.

I'm still waiting for Frack to weigh in with his routine for equal development of the phallus.

Forearms are not difficult to grow AND they are used on almost all upper body exercises. Deadlifts will make them grow. Shoot...all you have to do is hang unto 350 for as long as you can. Bingo...bigger forearms.
 
Testosterone boy said:



Damn...I thought you said you started with 21" calves.



Arnold speaks of the tremendous difficulty of building calves in his book. He said it is the hardest part.

I'm still waiting for Frack to weigh in with his routine for equal development of the phallus.

Forearms are not difficult to grow AND they are used on almost all upper body exercises. Deadlifts will make them grow. Shoot...all you have to do is hang unto 350 for as long as you can. Bingo...bigger forearms.

arnold ignored calves during his early years... so they sucked.. so he got implants. Then, after getting implants, he started parroting the virtues of his new training techniques... like training in shorts so he had to look at his calves...:rolleyes:
 
TB - I agree with you - let's be honest how many do you see deadlifting anymore??

I am not saying that they are necessarily easier or harder to develop than any other bodypart - I'm saying that I see very few train them as intensely as say, chest or bis....in fact...I bet the average trainer does 3x as many sets for bis as calves...
 
i guess i'm the only one on this board with calves bigger than their quads. also, my neck is bigger around than the circumference of my head. the head just kind of rests ontop of this little platform like a golfball waiting to be teed off. so this basically means i have no chin and to be able to speak normally, i must tilt my head back and talk towards the ceiling. but since i'm 4'11", i am still able to look most people in the eye.
 
Puc said:


arnold ignored calves during his early years... so they sucked.. so he got implants. Then, after getting implants, he started parroting the virtues of his new training techniques... like training in shorts so he had to look at his calves...:rolleyes:

I never heard that one before. He states that he worked his ass off on the calves while training in Africa.
 
LMAO @ SSME


btw - Arnold DID trian his claves early on - that's why rumor has it that he was the first recepient of implants via silicone in his calves


btw - in light of Big's and ssmes comments, I can only assume that ssme spends his streetwalking nights in high heels.
 
Cornholio said:
TB - I agree with you - let's be honest how many do you see deadlifting anymore??

I am not saying that they are necessarily easier or harder to develop than any other bodypart - I'm saying that I see very few train them as intensely as say, chest or bis....in fact...I bet the average trainer does 3x as many sets for bis as calves...

Deadlifting passed on because it is damned hard work IMO. I never see anybody do it and people look at me like I'm a Martian but its all good. I feel the deads work almost all body parts.

BTW...I don't work bi's at all. My elbows don't hold up to curls. I'm not into big arms either.
 
big4life said:
If you want big calves get a job where you are on your feet most of the time.:)

That's the key. Calves need alot of stimulation to grow and repetitive strain is the best way to achieve that.

If anyone lives near the beach, do some sand running both backwards and forwards and watch them grow.
 
So if my quads are 27-28 inches I should have 18 inch calves?? That means my arms are too small too??? I just measured my thighs that i trained abuot 6 hours ago at 27 inches on the inner upper part??
 
this thread is awesome.

corn is right - genetics can play a part in any muscle development - easy or not.
not necessarily like there is a spot in the DNA that says "small chest" or "tiny calves" - but instead there are people that have a different density of fast twitch and they don't train properly for that.
or genetically have longer arms and thereby longer levels requiring more force to increase total work.

the one thing that I guess confuses me and yet also awes me on this board is the total disregard of genes in people's life.
the way some laugh at them and continue to strain against them, in search of what they will never reach.
or the flipside where one assumes that someone doesn't work hard like themselves, when in reality genetics are sitting there making it happen.

it makes one feel a lot better to think that they have worked harder than someone else than it does to hear that you were born with a genetic propensity towards some physiological concept that you happen to mentally chase.

in terms of proportion - there are a ton of different charts out there. percentages based on bone size and height and all that.

as for body parts that aren't responding - if it just isn't responding, then it is because you need change. if you work calves every day, then stop working them at all, or go to one day.
if you only do them once a week - up it to two times or more until you see results.
you need to match the training to the proportion of your muscle fiber types.

penis. penis. penis.
 
i am pretty sure there is a "short penis" gene and a "thin penis" one, too. i have them both.

hs has enspired me to stop doing towel hangs, squish-stretchs, and taking viagra.
 
Citruscide said:
No one is harder on me than myself
C-ditty

Well I hope you're tellin yourself to hit the cardio a bit harder and lose the gut.

BILT
 
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