Can I get some HONEST input...

[Focker]

I've sat around for several days now watching this "internet drama" and have yet to voice my opinion. I'll voice it now and you all can flame away.

In my opinion, Johnboy is a honest individual who speaks the truth. He was a very active participant in several boards and was always helpful to everyone. He appears to be well educated both in general and in anabolics. He voiced his concerns about problems with this board several times here and the administration ignored his requests over and over. The administration and most of the mods apeared as if they did not even exist. When musclezine started out, I immediately went and signed up for an account. The main reason I went there was due to the deterioration of this board and because Bouncer and Jonhboy were both mods. They are (or were) online constantly and were quick to answer any questions and to provide excellent advice. A lot of you don't like johnboy and that is fine but the fact of the matter is that he always spoke the truth.

As for the GV thread... Even though I don't show being registered on EF very long, I have been here for close to a year. Scammers names, once approved by the mods, are posted and usually stuck for several days. SonnyBlack stayed at the top for about a week as did many others. Johnboy posted GV as a scammer and a mod here stuck it. Why? because it was important. Then several hours later, another mod unstuck it. All of a sudden it lost its importance.... or did it? My opinion is that whoever unstuck it did it because they didn't like the author. Johnboy spoke up for what was right and what did he get.... he got stripped of his mod privileges at MZ and got stabbed in the back.

Some of you call him childish for the way he approached the problem but can you aswer this.... What was the correct way? If he would have asked nicely who unstuck or why the thread was unstuck he would have been ignored just as he was several times before.

Call him wrong... call me wrong.... whatever.... the fact is that a good, knowledgable person is no longer the same and this board as well as musclezine is now missing one best members/mods that they once had.

 

[BiggieSwolls]

The more times you post your ramblings here and on musclezine JB, the more I am truly confident that we at musclezine are better without you.

Good luck though JB.

Biggie

 

[BiggieSwolls]

and got stabbed in the back.

Ok, I'll take some time out to address this then. Please elaborate how JB got stabbed in the back. Could it be that you are just saying that because he says it? Nobody just took his mod powers away form him and didnt tell him. I told him flat out that his attitude and behavour here were a terrible reflection on the board and musclezine does not want that associated with the site. Cut and dry.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

the fact is that a good, knowledgable person is no longer the same

you are 100% correct and it is not because of elite or musclezine, it's all his own doing.

 

[BiggieSwolls]

I mine as well address a couple other things. When I told JB he was no longer needed as a mod at musclezine, he told me a warning should have been in order. Why would a warning be in order? He couldnt see that he was acting like a 12 year old kid? Is he not 28 years old? Your telling me someone that is supposed to be mature enough to moderate a bb'ing site needs to be warned about acting like a child?

Also, JB has clearly stated here and at musclezine that musclezine is a bullshit site and this and that, well then why does he come on here crying and asking for input, opinions and what not? If we are such a terrible site, then he should be happy that his stellar reputation is no longer part of it.

 

[wartime100]

cut this childish shit out bro...wtf? This is an anabolics board not a fucking soap opera.

This whole thing has been so drawn out. Let it go and move on. This is only a dicussion board not a matter of life and death.

 

[Focker]

The more times you post your ramblings here and on musclezine JB, the more I am truly confident that we at musclezine are better without you.

Good luck though JB.

Biggie

BiggieSwoles, please don't take offense to my debate. I don't know you personally and although I don't agree with your decision to de-mod jb I must stand up for him. I will give you credit Biggie in that you do participate in the board you administer. You are obviously not just in it to make money and are rather in it for the good of others. I have seen recently almost a hatred that you have developed toward jb who himself was active on the boards for the good of others. He is obviously upset and you keep pounding him with justification as to why him being de-modded was the correct decision. Its obvious that he's not going to get this privilege back (at least not on musclezine) but rather than looking at the little negative side of jb that was seen recently, why don't people see the good side. He is not a bad person and I'm sick of people flaming him for speaking the truth. Angin don't take this personally. I participate on your board and don't want any hard feelings.

 

[Focker]

Also, JB has clearly stated here and at musclezine that musclezine is a bullshit site and this and that, well then why does he come on here crying and asking for input, opinions and what not? If we are such a terrible site, then he should be happy that his stellar reputation is no longer part of it.

Biggie,
You and I both know that this was done out of pure anger. That was not the true johnboy. It is obvious that jb cares a great deal about MZ or else he wouldn't be upset. Being a mod meant a lot to jb... it is obvious.

 

[BiggieSwolls]

BiggieSwoles, please don't take offense to my debate. I don't know you personally and although I don't agree with your decision to de-mod jb I must stand up for him. I will give you credit Biggie in that you do participate in the board you administer. You are obviously not just in it to make money and are rather in it for the good of others. I have seen recently almost a hatred that you have developed toward jb who himself was active on the boards for the good of others. He is obviously upset and you keep pounding him with justification as to why him being de-modded was the correct decision. Its obvious that he's not going to get this privilege back (at least not on musclezine) but rather than looking at the little negative side of jb that was seen recently, why don't people see the good side. He is not a bad person and I'm sick of people flaming him for speaking the truth. Angin don't take this personally. I participate on your board and don't want any hard feelings.

Actually I have no hatred for JB. On the other hand I do have a hatred for uncalled for internet drama. The simple fact is he was de-modded and he was told this as personally as possible. Of course I am going to reply to posts where JB either indirectly or directly bashes the site which he has done now on a couple of occasions. The reason why JB's negatives are being brought to the forefront is because he basically keeps asking why he was de-modded. I have nothing against him. He can keep bashing my site and calling me a bitch, thats fine with me, it just justifies our decision to de-mod him even more.

 

[Focker]

I do have a hatred for uncalled for internet drama.

I'll end it at that. I do not want you to have a hatred toward me.