cabergoline 3 x as strong as bromocriptine

[Fatboy1984]

i dont think you even sacrifice any gains at a small dose like that honestly. If so maybe like 1-2 pounds of water weight.
In the study it says they were taking 1mg of cabor 2x a day right? everyone on here says take .5 e3d wether your in your cycle, or triing to get rid of gyno after a cycle. Would it be beneficial to up the dose? maybe .5ed or somthing like that? how come we always do .5 e3d?

 

[njmuscleguy]

i dont think you even sacrifice any gains at a small dose like that honestly. If so maybe like 1-2 pounds of water weight.
In the study it says they were taking 1mg of cabor 2x a day right? everyone on here says take .5 e3d wether your in your cycle, or triing to get rid of gyno after a cycle. Would it be beneficial to up the dose? maybe .5ed or somthing like that? how come we always do .5 e3d?

I'm not sure where the dosage comes from but the frequency comes from half-life, if not mistaken...it has a pretty long half-life

 

[Mac173]

Worked well to rid me of gyno brought on by tren in one of my cycles.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

So the best way to try and avoid gyno while running test & tren or say, test & deca would be to simultaneously start running adex right from the cycle's beginning at say .5mgs eod and Caber at .5mgs every 4th day thereabouts...? Even if that means sacrificing some little gains along the way, right?

This has worked like a charm for me .

Brad.

 

[UA_Iron]

Anyone ever consider pramipexole for prolactin suppression?

Afterall, it was originally developed for exactly that purpose.

 

[needtogetaas]

progestegenic gyno proportedly can't be treated with just dostinex alone or just an AI alone... progestin inducing gyno is "encouraged" in the presence of estrogen...

This is try but once the progesterone receptors have been aggravated,induced (lack of batter terms at the moment) just an Ai alone will not work.

This is also not entirely true ether I should add. Many people take JUST TREN alone and get gyno. Now tren does not convert to estrogen. So if what you were saying was entirely true then you could not get gyno from tren..... Or it only takes very minamal amounts of estrogen to work with high progesteron to cause gyno. In other words a normal estrogen level mixed with high levels of progesterone would cause gyno...

So if using an AI Idea was to work then you would have to crush estrogen to a below normal level for it to work???

Yes studies have shown that progesteron needs some level of estrogen in order to activate receptors. Many people ran with that with out even thinking though.... HOW MUCH ESTROGEN????

And that is where the problem of using a Ai from that start to stop prog/prolactin sides starts. Crushing estrogen to below normal levels is not Optimal for muscle growth or even health for that matter.

If you are prone to ether estrogen or and or prog sides then running just enough of both from the start is beast. If you happen to get the sides running just enough of both is the best way to combat the problem.

The thinking that running an AI from the start will prevent the problem is not right and We have seen many people still get prog sides well doing so...

Yes some estrogen must be present to induce prog/prolactin gyno. BUT NOT MUCH!!!! normal levels of it is all it takes.

 

[Mac173]

always better to play it safe, IMO... I think the gains you "sacrifice" are minimal

Agreed.