Bulk cycle

[jbw5555]

1-12 test-e 500/wk
1-12 deca 400/wk
1-12 proviron 25/day (will bump to 50 if needed)
1-4 dbol 25/day (will bump by 10mg/day/wk up to 50/day depending on tolerance
1-12 caber .25 e3d

I'm 2 weeks off my last cycle of sust/dbol/primo/proviron which was a contest prep cycle. I finished at 195 @ 4.8% bf. down from a 215lb @ 14% start. Happy with those results. Obviously diet and conditioning was spot on. I'm in pct now and recovering nicely.

Planning this cycle for the winter. Goals are pure bulking as I would like to pack on the pounds and compete next year at a heavier class, heavyweight.

I've run test cycles before with dbol kickers with good results. Primo was a new compound last cycle, and very happy with the results. deca would be a new compound here and want to make sure I do it right to add the most quality mass.

I'll discuss pct later, so don't want that to be the focus of this thread right now.

Thoughts and advice.





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[dylangemelli]

i hate to see you have gotten so nicely cut up as you did and then just take it all away with a cycle like this... you could still do a bulk cycle but make it a lot cleaner with a few tweaks bro... this is how i would do it...

1-12 test cyp 350 - 500 mg week
1-10 npp 150 mg eod
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9-14 winstrol 50 mg day
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[STTM]

Cycle looks great in my opinion. Only thing I would change is the Test length. I prefer to cruise for a couple weeks on a low dose of Test to let everything clear, especially deca, before starting PCT.

Eat like a champ, train like an animal, and you will accomplish your goals.

 

[Francofranco]

Honestly I like both cycles! If I ran the proposed cycle def add aromasin and bump caber to .5 . I've ran Dylan's example cycle excluding gw and s4. Let me tell you both are great for size; npp will creep up on you quick and well we all know about deca/dbol for size. I can see Dylan's cycle having an advantage aiding you closer to a contest ready condition if that's your goal and more forgiving with respects to bloat and sides. On just test and deca/dbol with your stats it's very possible and highly likely to look smoother and rounder; less Chiseled. You could just as well go with your proposed cycle to put on size but I love the fact when competing being not far from my best. Makes the weeks conditioning before contest smoother. All in all think about your year ahead, what your aiming for, and bottom line where you want to be at the conclude of your next cycle. Again I like both cycles, you look great now and I know you'll make the best of whatever outcome. Best of luck!

 

[Shrine1]

Dylan's layout is a good one bro.. you will still be able to clean bulk while keeping your lean physique.

The added sarms will maximize your cycle big time. Out off the sarms S4 is my favorite, but HE takes you to a totally different level in terms of heightened cardiovascular and added endurance. Not to mention the fact that it has a positive impact on your lipids. The added N2Guard will assist in this regard as well

 

[Elvia1023]

1-12 test-e 500/wk
1-12 deca 400/wk
1-12 proviron 25/day (will bump to 50 if needed)
1-4 dbol 25/day (will bump by 10mg/day/wk up to 50/day depending on tolerance
1-12 caber .25 e3d

I'm 2 weeks off my last cycle of sust/dbol/primo/proviron which was a contest prep cycle. I finished at 195 @ 4.8% bf. down from a 215lb @ 14% start. Happy with those results. Obviously diet and conditioning was spot on. I'm in pct now and recovering nicely.

Planning this cycle for the winter. Goals are pure bulking as I would like to pack on the pounds and compete next year at a heavier class, heavyweight.

I've run test cycles before with dbol kickers with good results. Primo was a new compound last cycle, and very happy with the results. deca would be a new compound here and want to make sure I do it right to add the most quality mass.

I'll discuss pct later, so don't want that to be the focus of this thread right now.

Thoughts and advice.

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Your cycle looks great matey. You don't need to add anything to it. If you wanted to add I would say MK-677 for the GH release and increased appetite.

 

[RickRock13]

I would stop the Deca two weeks before the test to give you a better transition to PCT. I would also make sure you get an AI in there. Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD should do the trick.

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[jbw5555]

Thanks for the replies. All excellent advice. I did leave out a key piece of my last cycle, and that was the sarms. I don't know why, I think sometimes because they are so easily administered I consider them more of supplements than anything else. But they certain are much more than that.

I ran 6 weeks of GW, and 4 weeks of s4 right up until my contest date. I felt that GW (along with carb cycling) got me to the next level of shred at the end of the cycle. I'm also currently on MK/osterine as part of my PCT. I also planned on running sarms in this upcoming bulking cycle as I took advantage of several bogo opportunities at sarms1 than I'm pretty much stockpiled on sarms right now.

I purposely left off my ai in the planned cycle as I'm going to see how/if proviron alone will do the trick. I've never had a estrogen problem before with my test cycles, but this last time I took aromasin 25mg twice a week, and my mid cycle blood work showed my HDLs completely tanked, which aromasin is known to do, which took my cholesterol ratios to a whole nother level. I still have plenty of ai's on hand if I need them (including Letro), so depending on bloodwork and feeling I'm going to lay off them in the beginning and hope proviron keeps things in check.

Thanks for all the pct advice too, it was all right inline with what I was thinking, and actually close to my current PCT.


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[RickRock13]

Glad you had such a great experience with the sarms like so many others. You sure it wasn't Arimadex that you ran as an AI on cycle? It is known to negatively affect your lipids, but aromasin does not do that at all.

 

[hurricane]

1-12 test-e 500/wk
1-12 deca 400/wk
1-12 proviron 25/day (will bump to 50 if needed)
1-4 dbol 25/day (will bump by 10mg/day/wk up to 50/day depending on tolerance
1-12 caber .25 e3d

I'm 2 weeks off my last cycle of sust/dbol/primo/proviron which was a contest prep cycle. I finished at 195 @ 4.8% bf. down from a 215lb @ 14% start. Happy with those results. Obviously diet and conditioning was spot on. I'm in pct now and recovering nicely.

Planning this cycle for the winter. Goals are pure bulking as I would like to pack on the pounds and compete next year at a heavier class, heavyweight.

I've run test cycles before with dbol kickers with good results. Primo was a new compound last cycle, and very happy with the results. deca would be a new compound here and want to make sure I do it right to add the most quality mass.

I'll discuss pct later, so don't want that to be the focus of this thread right now.

Thoughts and advice.





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this is one of the best mass building cycles there are and i see you are looking for a pure bulker.So you will be fine with this cycle. Dont foget to throw gw in there, its a must to get the most out of your cycle, it will give you better workouts and endurance.Also dont forget to put osta in pct, it is needed to have the best pct possible.No reason for s4 in a bulker,lgd you can put in but to be honest it will get overshadowed by the test and other compounds.

 

[jbw5555]

Nope it was aromisin (exemestane). Plenty of studies show that effect. And I most certainly saw it in my blood work. I had pre-cycle (about 2 weeks prior to my cycle) bloodwork to directly compare to. Im about a week or 2 away from running my post cycle blood work, so I'll know if I'm getting back to normal,shortly.

Here are a few published articles on the subject.

http://foodforbreastcancer.com/news/aromatase-inhibitors-can-worsen-cholesterol-profile
http://www.oncologynurseadvisor.com/exemestane-lowers-good-cholesterol-levels/article/220644/


Yes, sarms results were great with limited sides. My only negative side effect was the known vision issues that came along with the S4, but it was manageable, and temporary, cleared up within days of discontinued use.


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[hurricane]

Nope it was aromisin (exemestane). Plenty of studies show that effect. And I most certainly saw it in my blood work. I had pre-cycle (about 2 weeks prior to my cycle) bloodwork to directly compare to. Im about a week or 2 away from running my post cycle blood work, so I'll know if I'm getting back to normal,shortly.

Here are a few published articles on the subject.

Aromatase Inhibitors Can Worsen Cholesterol Profile - Food for Breast Cancer
Exemestane lowers "good" cholesterol levels - ONA


Yes, sarms results were great with limited sides. My only negative side effect was the known vision issues that came along with the S4, but it was manageable, and temporary, cleared up within days of discontinued use.


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At what dosage did you run the s4? you can always try 5 days on and 2 off, on your cycle and it should help cut the sides down.

 

[jbw5555]

I ran it at 50mg/day. Again, it was manageable. And based on others' testimony I knew it would be temporary. Probably the worst part was the night vision effects I had it on it, the only concern I had was driving at night,,although it never was bad enough to stop me.


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[Elvia1023]

Nope it was aromisin (exemestane). Plenty of studies show that effect. And I most certainly saw it in my blood work. I had pre-cycle (about 2 weeks prior to my cycle) bloodwork to directly compare to. Im about a week or 2 away from running my post cycle blood work, so I'll know if I'm getting back to normal,shortly.

Here are a few published articles on the subject.

Aromatase Inhibitors Can Worsen Cholesterol Profile - Food for Breast Cancer
Exemestane lowers "good" cholesterol levels - ONA


Yes, sarms results were great with limited sides. My only negative side effect was the known vision issues that came along with the S4, but it was manageable, and temporary, cleared up within days of discontinued use.


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Yes even aromasin can negatively effect cholesterol. They all will but generally aromasin is the friendliest on lipids.

Proviron will help stop aromatization but that's about it. It's fantastic with test and deca though and I think you will enjoy it. There are pro's and con's for most things. Some will say nolva and deca don't go together and they are not totally misinformed but I do like to run nolva during some cycles. It will also improve cholesterol but it can have other drawbacks.