bubbles in syringe while injecting, can't get rid of em all!

[twofiftysixsix]

I can't seem to get rid of em all, there are really tiiiiiiiny, ones that sometimes don't go away, and I just end up injecting anyway after I wait 15 min for them to go away as much as possible, is this bad to do? It jus seems impossible to get ride of every single one especially the super tiny ones. Thanks for any helps.

P.S. sometimes I end up not using all the juice in the syringe b/c I let the bubbles go to the top plunger and I inject and let gravity help out.

P.P.S Thanks again for any info if this is bad for me.

 

[bca21]

Its ok dont worry. But im guessing ur using a 25g? Buy some 18g needles and use them to withdraw the juice. Then change to the needle you shoot with. They should be gone and dont woorry, the lil bubbles are ok

 

[twofiftysixsix]

thanks bro, was worried about the bubbles, but yeah, I will swich to 18g needles and see the diff if any. Peace.

 

[Studio Muscle Canada]

if you are using a multidose vial, then inject some air into the vial before drawing any gear,, also,, when the oil is in the syringe,, draw some air into the syringe and rock the needle back and forth.. that will usually make the small air bubbles join together,,,,, make sure you arent using too much power when you are drawing the oil into the syringe, thats when you will get the most bubbles..
take it easy bro.

 

[GymIntensity]

if withdrawing alot you might want to pull out with a 21 instead of 18. sometimes the 18's seem to cut the rubber stopper up and you dont want any pieces of rubber floating around.

 

[Ulter]

Don't worry about it, they come out when you pee. You'll see them in the bowl later. It's cool.

 

[jagerbombme]

Don't worry about it, they come out when you pee. You'll see them in the bowl later. It's cool.

lmfao

 

[McFakerton]

Dude, just inject the bubbles, they're not going to hurt you. I do a fairly half-assed job of getting the HUGE ones out and any small ones can just go into my leg.

The absolute WORST that is going to happen is that you'll get a little air bubble under the skin that's uncomfortable and that'll go away quickly. (Never happened to me, but a buddy got one once)

Air won't kill you unless it's injected straight into a vein, and even then it takes something like 10cc's of nothing but air to kill you.

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

Dude, just inject the bubbles, they're not going to hurt you. I do a fairly half-assed job of getting the HUGE ones out and any small ones can just go into my leg.

The absolute WORST that is going to happen is that you'll get a little air bubble under the skin that's uncomfortable and that'll go away quickly. (Never happened to me, but a buddy got one once)

Air won't kill you unless it's injected straight into a vein, and even then it takes something like 10cc's of nothing but air to kill you.

Bro thats the worst advise I ever heard You should NEVER EVER shot the air bubbles IN Thats JUST insane make one mistake injecting your quad not only put A>S right in to your blood stream But an air pocket as well That JUST stupid , Like said shot air in to the bottle that will allow for a better flow in the syringe TRY AND GET OUT AS MUCH OF THE BUBBLES AS POSSIBLE IF THERE ARE A FEW TINY ONES just make sure they are not in the center part between the neddle and syringe . second put A big enough air bubble in to a muscle that will rise to the surface under the skin can cause mad problems , also it is tougher to get bubbles out of water based than oil


and FYI it takes a lot less than 10cc in a main artery to go stright to the heart and kill you and I have heard of guys making that very mistake asperated wrong and put empty air in vien Visit them at there gave and say it takes 10Cc to do it

Also heard of a few cases where a air pocket was put In there ass put pressure on the siatic nerve and casued tempory motor problems to that leg Not every ones siatic nerve goes in a stright line

 

[jeepboi]

Dude, just inject the bubbles, they're not going to hurt you. I do a fairly half-assed job of getting the HUGE ones out and any small ones can just go into my leg.

The absolute WORST that is going to happen is that you'll get a little air bubble under the skin that's uncomfortable and that'll go away quickly. (Never happened to me, but a buddy got one once)

Air won't kill you unless it's injected straight into a vein, and even then it takes something like 10cc's of nothing but air to kill you.

yeah thats not such a good thing to say with so many people looking for info on this stuff, they might get the idea that air in a syringe cant hurt them. Personally i am freak about air in my syringes i would rather waste alittle then inject air, but then again i dont have to worry about running out anytime soon.

but small air bubbles arent too bad, but dont half ass your draw and injection and somehow go about killing yourself.

 

[McFakerton]

I'm not saying that it can't hurt them, but it's also nothing to really freak about. A small amount of air in the muscle isn't going to do anything.

If air in your muscle would kill you, then why don't you die if you get a deep cut? A shitload of air gets in there if you get a nice deep gash.

Also, if you have ever had an IV you'd notice all kinds of smaller air bubbles going into your bloodstream. These get broken up pretty quickly as well as the fact that your blood is going to straight up absorb a lot of the gasses anyway (Your blood is designed to carry CO2 and Oxygen after all)

So, get the big bubbles out, but a little isn't going to hurt you.

The people that have heard of someone die almost always are referencing a "friend of a friend knows this guy that died".

But I'll agree with you, you shouldn't be injecting large amounts of air into you.

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

I'm not saying that it can't hurt them, but it's also nothing to really freak about. A small amount of air in the muscle isn't going to do anything.

If air in your muscle would kill you, then why don't you die if you get a deep cut? A shitload of air gets in there if you get a nice deep gash.

Also, if you have ever had an IV you'd notice all kinds of smaller air bubbles going into your bloodstream. These get broken up pretty quickly as well as the fact that your blood is going to straight up absorb a lot of the gasses anyway (Your blood is designed to carry CO2 and Oxygen after all)

So, get the big bubbles out, but a little isn't going to hurt you.

The people that have heard of someone die almost always are referencing



Um that would be first hand I have been around for 12 years and in that 12 years have heard and seen first hand the STUPID shit that guys do Yes little tiny bubbles wont kill you but your responce was just crazy "I shot half ass any way" it takes like 10CC to kill you bro did you know that a big enough BUBBLE which can be very small in your ass shoulder QUAD can stay there so when training and the muscle swells that Little bubble that has no where to go puts pressure on nerves, cause lose of feeling numbness HOW DO I KNOW becasue once apon a time I was new and listen to people and got the wrong advise OR miss understood what was said , that was a long time ago

It was how you posted your responce and the demeaner of the information !!

remember their are lots of guys that surf this board that read these posts and never ask questions and if they think air is ok than that information could harm someone

 

[twofiftysixsix]

thanks to everyone who helped with this question, I hope I didn't cause a fight, but after reading everything I understand what everybody is saying and that I'm not alone and most importantly my question was answered. Thanks again to everyone, I seriously would not know where to turn other than this board regarding AAS, nobody around me has this much experience/knowledge, it is soo taboo, they almost think ur a crack head when u ask about air bubbles and what not. Anyways, stay strong! PEACE!

 

[immortalis]

Don't worry about it, they come out when you pee. You'll see them in the bowl later. It's cool.

hahahahaha

 

[ViperHMS]

Humm let me see, when you aspirate little air bubbles come into the syringe, guess what it came out of your body, it is going to be ok if you pump a little bit back into your body. I really hope that if your injecting and hit a vein that you are injecting the gear first and not air, cause I just dont see how someone could get air in first because of gravity.

 

[dale_gribble]

I can't seem to get rid of em all, there are really tiiiiiiiny, ones that sometimes don't go away, and I just end up injecting anyway after I wait 15 min for them to go away as much as possible, is this bad to do? It jus seems impossible to get ride of every single one especially the super tiny ones. Thanks for any helps.

P.S. sometimes I end up not using all the juice in the syringe b/c I let the bubbles go to the top plunger and I inject and let gravity help out.

P.P.S Thanks again for any info if this is bad for me.

Nothing to worry about. It would actually take about 1 or more cc's of air injected right into the vein to give you an embolism.

 

[guest username]

You guys inject intramuscularly with a 27 g? That's begging for one of those suckers to break off. 27 and 25 g is used for local infiltration. That's what we use to inject lidocaine before we suture someone or do an invasive procedure.

21 g should be the smallest size you use for an intramuscular injection.

I agree that drawing it up in a larger needle (18 g, blunt, filtered) will prevent some air bubbles from forming. The consequences of the air bubbles are pretty much miniscule, but there are risks. Drawing it up slowly will also help.

 

[Bruce]

nothing to worry about at all, man its impossible to get them all out, you have to inject a lot of air into a vein directly to kill yourself bro. no worries

 

[CO B-man]

My doctor told me the whole bubble in the syringe thing is a farce and that it would take a lot of air injected directly into a vein to cause major problems. I asked him because I was getting an I.V. once (Directly into my vein and I watched about a 1/2" bubble travel down the tube and was freaking out as it neared my body thinking I was going to die as I watched my life pass before me. Quite funny in hindsight, but needless to say I lived. I would ask a doctor that went through years of schooling and years of practice about it if it worries you. But I am not worried my doc made me feel comfortable and the fact I watched air go into my own veins I have no worries at all. but to be safe it definately does not hurt to minimize them.

 

[Sean Scott]

thanks to everyone who helped with this question, I hope I didn't cause a fight, but after reading everything I understand what everybody is saying and that I'm not alone and most importantly my question was answered. Thanks again to everyone, I seriously would not know where to turn other than this board regarding AAS, nobody around me has this much experience/knowledge, it is soo taboo, they almost think ur a crack head when u ask about air bubbles and what not. Anyways, stay strong! PEACE!

I agree thank you guys its great to see everyone policing each other so we all benefit.

 

[posthuman]

Bro thats the worst advise I ever heard You should NEVER EVER shot the air bubbles IN Thats JUST insane make one mistake injecting your quad not only put A>S right in to your blood stream But an air pocket as well That JUST stupid , Like said shot air in to the bottle that will allow for a better flow in the syringe TRY AND GET OUT AS MUCH OF THE BUBBLES AS POSSIBLE IF THERE ARE A FEW TINY ONES just make sure they are not in the center part between the neddle and syringe . second put A big enough air bubble in to a muscle that will rise to the surface under the skin can cause mad problems , also it is tougher to get bubbles out of water based than oil


and FYI it takes a lot less than 10cc in a main artery to go stright to the heart and kill you and I have heard of guys making that very mistake asperated wrong and put empty air in vien Visit them at there gave and say it takes 10Cc to do it

Also heard of a few cases where a air pocket was put In there ass put pressure on the siatic nerve and casued tempory motor problems to that leg Not every ones siatic nerve goes in a stright line

Ever hear of "air bubble injection method"? Shooting a little bit of air IM or SQ is routinely done in medical situations to lock medication in the muscle (prevent seepage) and to clear the needle fully.
Like .2cc of air. Those small bubbles are probably harmless, although I hear you about clearing the bubbles out of the needle.

 

[dale_gribble]

My doctor told me the whole bubble in the syringe thing is a farce and that it would take a lot of air injected directly into a vein to cause major problems. I asked him because I was getting an I.V. once (Directly into my vein and I watched about a 1/2" bubble travel down the tube and was freaking out as it neared my body thinking I was going to die as I watched my life pass before me. Quite funny in hindsight, but needless to say I lived. I would ask a doctor that went through years of schooling and years of practice about it if it worries you. But I am not worried my doc made me feel comfortable and the fact I watched air go into my own veins I have no worries at all. but to be safe it definately does not hurt to minimize them.

Its not exactly a farce, but its very rare that someone would die from air embolism. All you need to know about air embolisms:

http://www.answers.com/topic/air-embolism

 

[da20valve]

It takes a full 3cc of air to be injected into the vein for it to kill you, most people only inject 2ml at a time and unless your are using a massive syring there is no problem.

However, draw with a 21 guage. First fill the syringe with 1cc of air (1ml)then insert the needle and pump 1ml of air into the vial. Then draw out the juice, this will make the juice flow into the syringe easier.

After injecting the air into the vial draw back 1/4 of a ml on the syringe and hold it there, let the juice flow into the syring and stop, pull the plunger back further (1/2ml) and stop let the syring fill and so on. Alot of people are in a rush to draw the shit out and this resolves in bubbles in your syringe.

If you take your time there will be little to no bubbles in the syring when you finish, tap the syringe a few times (whilist still in the vial push the pluger up till you have the right amount (ie 2 ml) and pull the needle out.

There sometimes will be lil bubbles around the rubber stopper at the back of the plunger, dont worry about it, if there are sitting on the rubber and didnt come out when tapping they wont be injected because the stopper stops before the end on the syringe.

If you follow the steps and take the time,(usually takes about 1 min) you will not have any bubbles.

Also if there are bubbles they wont come out (sometimes stubbern bubbles) sit the syringe needle up for a minute usually they will make there way to the top.

If they wont move just watch the bubble when your injecting.
( if a arm or leg shot)

 

[Ballerzz31]

yeah thats not such a good thing to say with so many people looking for info on this stuff, they might get the idea that air in a syringe cant hurt them. Personally i am freak about air in my syringes i would rather waste alittle then inject air, but then again i dont have to worry about running out anytime soon.

but small air bubbles arent too bad, but dont half ass your draw and injection and somehow go about killing yourself.

Sometimes it's virtually impossible to get all the air out I'm using 23guage. I notice when pulling back it's seeping through the rubber plunger plus through the oil. I'm flicked and flicked nothing works. so I just have to inject it and hope for the best.

 

[GradeABeef]

You guys inject intramuscularly with a 27 g? That's begging for one of those suckers to break off. 27 and 25 g is used for local infiltration. That's what we use to inject lidocaine before we suture someone or do an invasive procedure.

21 g should be the smallest size you use for an intramuscular injection.

I agree that drawing it up in a larger needle (18 g, blunt, filtered) will prevent some air bubbles from forming. The consequences of the air bubbles are pretty much miniscule, but there are risks. Drawing it up slowly will also help.

21 for I'm minimum? Wow I am not going to put a 16 penny nail in my leg. I use 25 for my tren mostly. I have even used 30gage 1/2 inch but you have to make sure you hit a muscle with almost zero fat on it and I push a little into the muscle. With the 30gage I can draw it in about 3 minutes and inject in about 20 seconds or less. It really sucks my 25s are perfect I think. A nice balance of low pain a fast injections