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Nelson Montana said:


The world would be a better place if steroids were legal and prohormones weren't.
And TripleJ: That Big Brother bit is bullshit. The supplement companies dont give a flying fuck about your civil liberties. They just want your money.

Nelson:
Just to back you up for a change, androstendione has been around since the forties and the big drug companies like Searle used it as the raw material to manufacture Aldactone -- a/k/a Spironolactone -- an anti-androgen!
 
How can you guys bash 1-AD so bad?

Some people just don't want to take the legal risk of doing real steroids!

Saying that 1-AD isn't effective is a HUGE understatement. I personally gained 20lbs in a 4 week cycle, kept ALL OF IT. I know from personal experience that this shit works.

Also, other than a lack of sex drive I felt completely normal.

I just started a new cycle right now stacked with 4-AD, and I have NO SIDES at all.

It's not as bad as you all make it out to be.
 
BigDan650dl said:
whatever you say guys! both 1-AD and 4-AD are a load of shit, I'm sure if you were to stack either one with fina then it would be effective! :)

yeah...and so is r-ala, regular ala (which by the way is a mix of r and s polymers is certainly not the devil....as well as creatine, protein powders (whey isolate...mmmhmmm...just a few years ago, whey was sold to pig farmers for peenies on the dollar...now it's sold to bodybuilders for a lot more...and hmm..vitamins are worthless tooo, those "fresh" fruits and vegatables that you eat after sitting on a boat or truck for weeks before hitting your table are loaded with micrnutients...hmmm..yeah, 1-ad is shit becasue it doesn't give you Fina type gains...and sides....interesting...
 
ulter said:
"In my experience 1AD is quite effective. And the cost benefit ratio is not that bad. At DPS you can pick up three bottles for about $100 bucks and that is not out-of-line for a six week cycle that can produce similiar results to a mild AAS cycle."

And just which mild AAS do you think it is as effective as?


Ah common ground. Finally. On this subject you guys would do well to listen to Nelson Montana.
10% of the gains of AS with 80% of the sides. Gee sign me up for 1-AD.

Intelligence in a thread of moronic statements.
 
Whew, I just took a shot of 4-AD yesterday and it is no joke! The shit hurts way worse than suspension. I'm by far a neophyte lifter - I've done about 18 cycles to date. Anyway, I'll be the guinea pig on elite for a few weeks and tell you the results. Also, to keep this experiment truly scientific, this (and l-dex) is all I'll be doing. I'll be eating ~350g of protein daily and doing "Iron Addict's" style of training.


primo
 
20lbs of muscle in 4 weeks? thats hard to do with real gear. somebody must have spiked your 1ad with anadrol.
but if you like it, you can have it.
Pyrrhus said:
How can you guys bash 1-AD so bad?

Some people just don't want to take the legal risk of doing real steroids!

Saying that 1-AD isn't effective is a HUGE understatement. I personally gained 20lbs in a 4 week cycle, kept ALL OF IT. I know from personal experience that this shit works.

Also, other than a lack of sex drive I felt completely normal.

I just started a new cycle right now stacked with 4-AD, and I have NO SIDES at all.

It's not as bad as you all make it out to be.
 
OK since somebody brought this thing back to life I want to clarify my position. I found 1AD effective but I was most certainly under my genetic potential at the start of that cycle, and well under the level I had achieved earlier in my life using AAS, so muscle memory was probably a factor. Given that information, 1AD was very effective at helping me put on a solid 10 lbs, I was bigger, stronger, and leaner appearing, after the cycle. I would NOT claim again it was 10lbs LBM that was a bad choice of words, but it was a very solid 10lbs weight gain.

At this point I have moved back to real AAS with good results but the hassles and worries associated with trying to ILLEGALLY obtain gear of uncertain quality, actually make the prospect of trying another 1AD cycle not so unappealing.

My preference would certainly be the real deal if I could only be assured of persistant supply and quality. I believe the all human-grade gear I used in the 80s (before schedule III) had generally more punch than the vet and underground stuff I have tried to date.
 
Ive seen a buddy of mine on 1-AD. I swear, i looked at him and said "when did you decide to juice it" and he replied with "im on 1-AD". The shit is no joke, he got big quick on it (granted he looks bloated). Supprised the shit out of me.
 
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