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Brand new roid!!

Sounds like all supplment companies to me :-)

The first company will bring it out in a pill
then next company will make that pill digest faster
then the third company will micronise it into a fine powder
then the forth company will tun it into a liquid

When will the bullshit ever end....
 
Then I need to find a better anavar... That is what I had hoped for , something that would give me even more results than 1-ad... I am using IP's at 30mgs a day for 2 weeks now... Who's anavar should I use?

Quiller

IP anaver does not work, I don't know what it is but it is not anavar. Both dankel and loefflar make a good anavar, Dankel tested at 5mg meeting lable claims, loefflar tested above lable claims and gives great results.










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Thanks Guys for providing the most humorous post I have read in quite a while!

It is obvious that the marketing arm of these bullshit prohormone companies is DOING THEIR JOB WELL!!!

Whoever said that 8-15 lbs of quality lbm can be gained by taking these supplements is quite obviously a douche bag with preiferial(sp) knowledge regarding diet, training and hormones. 8-15 lbs of lbm can be gained WITH HARDCORE DIET AND TRAINING alone. So when you get your 1-ad and are all pumped up to do your cycle of it, assured of your future potential gains, you might just get them. This is most likely due to the diet, training and placebo effect which IS MORE PROVEN THAN 1-AD.

I normally would say "Go get a small 250 mg/week sust cycle and talk to me in 10 weeks" but I won't... You're right, continue going to GNC and talk to the fat slob behind the counter, he knows best. Also pick up some HGH precursor as well while you are filling up your basket. GNC and Flex Magazine PROMISED it WORKS.
 
8-15lbs quality LBM alone naturally in the time it takes to do an 8 week cycle, (or whatever the hell it is) of 1-ad... no chance unless you're a neophyte trainer
 
OK I gained 10lbs of LBM from 1AD because I am a neophyte who experienced a placebo effect, while the 30lbs I recently gained from AAS was due to what.... GNC weight gain shakes!! and had nothing to do with the AAS? Give me a break!!

Oh, did someone say proper diet and training are important to making gains? Thanks for that insight, genius!! I wish I had known that before, maybe my gains would have been higher.

Many of the claims the supplement companies make are laughable, but why throw the good furniture out with the bad? That's my point. Period.
 
Triple J said:
OK I gained 10lbs of LBM from 1AD because I am a neophyte who experienced a placebo effect, while the 30lbs I recently gained from AAS was due to what.... GNC weight gain shakes!! and had nothing to do with the AAS? Give me a break!!

Oh, did someone say proper diet and training are important to making gains? Thanks for that insight, genius!! I wish I had known that before, maybe my gains would have been higher.

Many of the claims the supplement companies make are laughable, but why throw the good furniture out with the bad? That's my point. Period.

OK, I'm not for or against 1-AD, I've never used it, and don't know anyone personally who has, so I can't comment. However, based on what you just said, that's right in line with the 1-AD being placebo. You could make 10lbs of LBM gain on nothing but hardcore diet and training, ESPECIALLY if you were capable of THIRTY pounds with AAS. That's just about right.
-B
 
bebaumax said:


OK, I'm not for or against 1-AD, I've never used it, and don't know anyone personally who has, so I can't comment. However, based on what you just said, that's right in line with the 1-AD being placebo. You could make 10lbs of LBM gain on nothing but hardcore diet and training, ESPECIALLY if you were capable of THIRTY pounds with AAS. That's just about right.
-B

No, because my diet and training or on point most all the time. Of course various steroids change your training physiology when you are on cycle vs. off ... did you know that? Oh does that bother you that I am talking to you like you are a fucking idiot? Well then I guess you know how I feel.

Listen I have been at this game quite a while and have taken my share of AAS and other supplements, so I have a fucking clue. 1AD is not worthless.

We can just agree to disagree, OK?
 
Triple J said:


No, because my diet and training or on point most all the time. Of course various steroids change your training physiology when you are on cycle vs. off ... did you know that? Oh does that bother you that I am talking to you like you are a fucking idiot? Well then I guess you know how I feel.

Listen I have been at this game quite a while and have taken my share of AAS and other supplements, so I have a fucking clue. 1AD is not worthless.

We can just agree to disagree, OK?

Well, I'll only agree on half of it. I agree to disagree that I think you could have easily put on the 10lbs on the placebo effect. I don't agree to disagree on whether or not 1-AD is worthless, because I don't even know that it is. For all I know, it does work. I've still not heard anything convincing either way. I'd try it out, but AAS are cheaper for me, so there's no point.

Oh, and no, it doesn't bother me that you're all upset, lots of people get really emotional on here... not sure why. I didn't know you were treating me as though I were an idiot, but that's fine, you know me about as well as I know 1-AD, so what do you have to go on? Not much.
-B
 
bebaumax said:


Well, I'll only agree on half of it. I agree to disagree that I think you could have easily put on the 10lbs on the placebo effect. I don't agree to disagree on whether or not 1-AD is worthless, because I don't even know that it is. For all I know, it does work. I've still not heard anything convincing either way. I'd try it out, but AAS are cheaper for me, so there's no point.

Oh, and no, it doesn't bother me that you're all upset, lots of people get really emotional on here... not sure why. I didn't know you were treating me as though I were an idiot, but that's fine, you know me about as well as I know 1-AD, so what do you have to go on? Not much.
-B

Hey bro, no problem. I do not really think you are an idiot, that was sarcasm. It is me that is on the defensive here. Why should I let this bother me? It really doesn't. But I will defend myself.

I have been told I am basically a neophyte experiencing a placebo effect. Let me assure you that is not the case with myself and many others. Even after admitting you know nothing about 1AD, my cycle history or experience, you believe my gains were placebo, just because on one cycle, I gained 10lbs, and the other, 30lbs. Well placebo effects are always possible with or without the use of AAS or products like 1AD. So we can sit here all day long and argue about if it was placebo or not. But my experience level would indicate otherwise.

Now, the reason I gained about 30lbs recently was because it was a test/dbol winter bulker, vs. more of a LBM conditioning cycle with the 1AD, similiar to how many might run a cycle of winnie, var, or eq. So I adjusted my training and diet regimens accordingly in each case. Make sense? OK

Many supplement claims are laughable. In my experience 1AD is a worthwhile supplement, as are some of the other recent products. Its just my two cents.
 
ok i gained 16 lbs on mag-10.... say 6-8 from glycogen....2 from water.......what leaves 6 lbs in 4 weeks? ....it does something....maybe not as well as AS but its legal....i dont have to shoot shit it my ass hehe
 
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