BPH? prostatitis? WTF??

[burnthiscorpse]

So 4 weeks in. only 375mg test C wk. With 125mg deca just for joint feel good. Aromasin 12.5mg E3D.
Did a kickstart of prop (because i had 10ml laying around) 1ml EOD til gone.

About 2 weeks ago I noticed I started pissing alot more. I usually drink a gallon of water a day anyways so I maybe take a few more pisses than the next person but nothing out of line.
This got into like every 15 minutes for a few days. I started hammering the saw palmetto and it SEEMS to have helped a little but i really cant say as I have also backed off the water some.
I also usually have to get up and piss about an hour before I usually have to get up in the morning or if I can wait then I really really gotta piss when i do get up.
But lately i have had to get up around 3 hrs after going to sleep and then maybe again once more or just again right before I need to get up.

To answer your next questions...Theres no pain, no starting and stopping, no dribbleing, the stream is strong. its always clear unless i have backed off the water enough then its appropriatley yellow according to how much i have not drank that day.
It seems now to be about every hour or two subject to fluid intake.
Or....even if I drink nothing at all. But even if i drink nothing for a few hours I still can go piss like I drank a gallon.
No it isnt normal, I can definatley tell something isnt quite right.
No problems sexually other than a touch of desensitization that I always get with test.
the only difference between now and the last time I cycled is that im 36 instead of 33.
I spoke briefly to my wifes doc and she said the most common thing with guys my age is prostatitis and that antibiotics would clear it up.
I do have to get blood work again at the end of the month and just called to order a PSA test thrown in with it.

I do recall having the same thing happen to me in 09' about mid way through a 10 month run of 600mg test E wk. I took an assload of saw palmetto and i recall it going away.

I was also doing some reading yesterday and it seems that if I read correctly that AAS, while usually causing even a little prostate enlargment that doesnt bother most of us <<< this is basically common knowledge....BUT....can also make the prostate more suceptable to infection?(prostatitis) ???
I did not know this. How true is this? This is exactly in line with what my wifes doc told me.

Any input? thoughts ect ect....?

 

[Nelson Montana]

BPH and prostatitus are unrelated. I also think test doesn't have that much of a direct infIuence. Most men get some form of it when they older (and T levels drop). found a corse of pygeum, lycopene and pumpkin seed helps. And sexual release without "holding back" helps relieve some pressure.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Hey mate good to see you ..

I have no real advise sorry bro , it has happened to me but it was self induced , I can run heavy cycles with two compounds and not have a problem but add three or four compounds and I'm pissing 5 times per night .
How have you been mate life still givin you enough time to train hard .

Brad.

 

[the small soldier]

Prolly BPH. I got it (temporary) when I was on cycle back in 2008. You can take some flomax, or if you're not squimish and don't want to take more drugs you could get some straight catheters and just cath yourself 2-3times a day while on cycle if you can't pee (what I did). My best advice would I would recommend seeing a urologist you think you can trust and tell him about the juice. Tell him you don't plan on stopping and you need to manage your BPH, if that's what it is.

 

[the small soldier]

btw I AM a current practicing Registered nurse and I deal with BPH a lot. it's easily managed in patients who have idiopathic BPH(no known cause). The fact you inject yourself with hormones is likely the cause and will probably subside somewhat when you come off. You'll need to aggressively manage your symptoms while on cycle.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Hey mate good to see you ..

I have no real advise sorry bro , it has happened to me but it was self induced , I can run heavy cycles with two compounds and not have a problem but add three or four compounds and I'm pissing 5 times per night .
How have you been mate life still givin you enough time to train hard .

Brad.

Hey bro good to see you too. Yes back at it finally after shoulder problems caused me to be off for half of 2010 and all of 2011.


>>>small soldier, I dont have any issues going, starting or stopping, just going frequently. Theres no pain. Just annoying frequency of going.
I stopped the water a few hours before bed last night just after the gym and I had to piss about 3 hrs after going to sleep and again an hour before I woke up.
Even with the limited water both times was still clear and each time was a god 15-20 second piss. So its not like im dribbling here and there.
But with me dropping fluids at night im just wondering where the hell this fluid is all coming from?
I do have this sinus post nasal shit going on for the last 2 weeks thats been an over abundance of fluid and i just recently stopped GHRP-2 which had me holding a bit of water that im obviously losing now.
So yes I find im pissing more frequently but each piss(9 out of 10 of them) is a full blown piss. Usually in this situation thats not the case.

 

[RADAR]

DUDE! Thats how i was in the early stages of diabetes, not saying you are ,but those exact symptioms occurred with me.Are you drinking any Gatorade? if you are STOP!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

DUDE! Thats how i was in the early stages of diabetes, not saying you are ,but those exact symptioms occurred with me.Are you drinking any Gatorade? if you are STOP!

Hmmm.....Ive been off the GHRP-2 for like 5-6 days. I checked my morning glucose 3 days ago and it returned to pretty much normal(85)
The only gatorade I drink is I take a 20oz and add 2 huge scoops of BCAA powder to it and sip about half of it through my workout then when I finish I slam the rest and drink my shake.


Also...this morning so far I pissed an hour before wake up....pissed again when I got up. Then, as of now I still havnt touched any water. The only fluid I have had was my shake of whey/eggwhites/almond milk and I just went and took a huge clear piss. But only 3 piss breaks since I woke up 3 hrs ago.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

And to elaborate on the gatorade thing, I'm sure your referring to its sugar content..... I do sneak some sugar here and there some days yes some days no. But its because I have a terrible sweet tooth. I always have. I don't go nuts, just few dark choc chips here or there....or a small pouch of gummy fruit snacks..(11g sugar) ....I don't go ape shit.

Also bro IIRC from our conversations I was actually having the opposite effect you were from the peptides....mine were giving me low blood sugar. Which obviously is an issue too ofcourse and why I stopped. Based on your thoughts though Im going to start monitoring my glucose the next few days regularly and make sure its gone back to normal as it feels it has. Im not getting that tingling in my temple anymore which i was when i was walking around with a blood sugar of 64 but didnt feel hypo. So thats good.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

So 4 weeks in. only 375mg test C wk. With 125mg deca just for joint feel good. Aromasin 12.5mg E3D.
Did a kickstart of prop (because i had 10ml laying around) 1ml EOD til gone.

About 2 weeks ago I noticed I started pissing alot more. I usually drink a gallon of water a day anyways so I maybe take a few more pisses than the next person but nothing out of line.
This got into like every 15 minutes for a few days. I started hammering the saw palmetto and it SEEMS to have helped a little but i really cant say as I have also backed off the water some.
I also usually have to get up and piss about an hour before I usually have to get up in the morning or if I can wait then I really really gotta piss when i do get up.
But lately i have had to get up around 3 hrs after going to sleep and then maybe again once more or just again right before I need to get up.

To answer your next questions...Theres no pain, no starting and stopping, no dribbleing, the stream is strong. its always clear unless i have backed off the water enough then its appropriatley yellow according to how much i have not drank that day.
It seems now to be about every hour or two subject to fluid intake.
Or....even if I drink nothing at all. But even if i drink nothing for a few hours I still can go piss like I drank a gallon.
No it isnt normal, I can definatley tell something isnt quite right.
No problems sexually other than a touch of desensitization that I always get with test.
the only difference between now and the last time I cycled is that im 36 instead of 33.
I spoke briefly to my wifes doc and she said the most common thing with guys my age is prostatitis and that antibiotics would clear it up.
I do have to get blood work again at the end of the month and just called to order a PSA test thrown in with it.

I do recall having the same thing happen to me in 09' about mid way through a 10 month run of 600mg test E wk. I took an assload of saw palmetto and i recall it going away.

I was also doing some reading yesterday and it seems that if I read correctly that AAS, while usually causing even a little prostate enlargment that doesnt bother most of us <<< this is basically common knowledge....BUT....can also make the prostate more suceptable to infection?(prostatitis) ???
I did not know this. How true is this? This is exactly in line with what my wifes doc told me.

Any input? thoughts ect ect....?

If your drinking a gallon your gonna have to go the male blatter if am correct will hold up to 4oz of urine I go every hour I piss probly 14-18 times a day. I drink about 192oz of water a day maybe slightly more

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Ok Radar....you have a PM coming....

and since you freaked me out I had to run home and grab my glucose monitor. I ate 1hr 50 min ago...1 cup of oats, and a big shake with egg whites and whey and almond milk.
My level was fucking 73!!! My normal is 88-93.

 

[RADAR]

And to elaborate on the gatorade thing, I'm sure your referring to its sugar content..... I do sneak some sugar here and there some days yes some days no. But its because I have a terrible sweet tooth. I always have. I don't go nuts, just few dark choc chips here or there....or a small pouch of gummy fruit snacks..(11g sugar) ....I don't go ape shit.

Also bro IIRC from our conversations I was actually having the opposite effect you were from the peptides....mine were giving me low blood sugar. Which obviously is an issue too ofcourse and why I stopped. Based on your thoughts though Im going to start monitoring my glucose the next few days regularly and make sure its gone back to normal as it feels it has. Im not getting that tingling in my temple anymore which i was when i was walking around with a blood sugar of 64 but didnt feel hypo. So thats good.

When i have a sweet attack and its not too often i'll have 2 slices of wheat bread with Peanut butter & honey.This doesn't bother my Blood Sugar like everything else does.
If it stays normal 80-100 the next couple of days you'll be fine, refrain from sweets until you know for sure.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

When i have a sweet attack and its not too often i'll have 2 slices of wheat bread with Peanut butter & honey.This doesn't bother my Blood Sugar like everything else does.
If it stays normal 80-100 the next couple of days you'll be fine, refrain from sweets until you know for sure.

With low blood sugar though wouldnt I want to eat a glucose tab or something to bring it back up where it should be? I have no issues avoiding sugar for a few days but I should eat as needed (glucose or whatever) to keep the level normal right?

 

[RADAR]

With low blood sugar though wouldnt I want to eat a glucose tab or something to bring it back up where it should be? I have no issues avoiding sugar for a few days but I should eat as needed (glucose or whatever) to keep the level normal right?

Your pitutary gland should be handling that, you should be getting a rise in blood sugar after eating.If you're not loosing weight you should be fine however net time you're due a checkup discuss this with your Dr. and have some bloodwork done to see if there are any abnormalities.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Your pitutary gland should be handling that, you should be getting a rise in blood sugar after eating.If you're not loosing weight you should be fine however net time you're due a checkup discuss this with your Dr. and have some bloodwork done to see if there are any abnormalities.

Im not sure if I'm losing weight or not. Im kinda trying to recomp but I havnt been on a scale in 2 mos. I decided to stop OCD'ing about the scale and use the mirror.
With all the water I have been pissing out I have to believe I have lost some H2O weight at least.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Ok Radar....you have a PM coming....

and since you freaked me out I had to run home and grab my glucose monitor. I ate 1hr 50 min ago...1 cup of oats, and a big shake with egg whites and whey and almond milk.
My level was fucking 73!!! My normal is 88-93.

Lol you fine bro thats normal and it changes when you eat your good

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Lol you fine bro thats normal and it changes when you eat your good

Well im hoping all is fine. 73 is low normal but its definatley way low for me personally. I just ate 20 min ago and its 81 now which still is about 10 points low from my average normal.
I was wondering if after stopping peptides if I would get some kind of pituitary backlash or effects ect...for a bit.

I really think its just some slight prostate enlargement. Especially since I have experienced it before.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Just an update if anyone was tuned in....

It had to be a little BPH like I had in 09'. After about 2 weeks of hammering the saw palmetto im back to normal now. last two nights I havnt even gotten up to piss once and i have been drinking more water too. Plus I'm not pissing 5000 times during the day either.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Well im hoping all is fine. 73 is low normal but its definatley way low for me personally. I just ate 20 min ago and its 81 now which still is about 10 points low from my average normal.
I was wondering if after stopping peptides if I would get some kind of pituitary backlash or effects ect...for a bit.

I really think its just some slight prostate enlargement. Especially since I have experienced it before.

Maybe peptides not enough study to know but yea 70-80 seems low if u just ate 20min ago

 

[ALIN]

I would keep drinking lots of water. May be a good time for a PSA test and a digital prostate exam.