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BP issues with prop/NPP....

redsamurai

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I've run prop and deca before, but not NPP.......so I'm taking 150prop/75-100NPP EOD........and my ears feel clogged all day. Should I stagger the prop and NPP so they're not being injected on the same day?
 
what's your #'s, bud? i was recently read at 150/120. that doesn't seem to high, how long have you been on?
 
HumanTarget said:
what's your #'s, bud? i was recently read at 150/120. that doesn't seem to high, how long have you been on?


I've been on just about a week now, so I haven't had a chance to go to the doctor, if this keeps up I'm going later this week. When I get to the top of a stair case I get this momentary light headedness and my ears get clogged.........never had this happen before. Couple months ago I did virtually the same cycle, only I was on regular deca at about 300-400mg/wk. The only differences now is that I'm on NPP and GH as well. I had high hopes for this cycle, but if my BP keeps up like it is I'm going to have to stop cold or drastically reduce the dose. I was thinking that it was because I was taking the prop and npp at the same time.......hell, I'm drawin them up in the same needle.
 
lots of herbals have bin proven to lower blood pressure.I dont know why I am even waisting my time in your thread but ill give every one a shot once.
 
You need some BP meds. In the mean time go give a pint of blood. That will lower it immediately, for about 72 hours, by shear fluid reduction. BUT IT'S NOT A CURE. I know because I have the same problem. You want to be below 140/90 on cycle. Get some BP meds with a diurectic in it to reduce water build up ASAP. THAT'S what's causing BP to go up on cycle.
It's like adding too much water to a balloon....no jive, bro :)
 
needtogetaas said:
lots of herbals have bin proven to lower blood pressure.I dont know why I am even waisting my time in your thread but ill give every one a shot once.


I read nitric oxide also works well.........what other herbs work well for lowering BP?




ps. if you were "waisting" your time in my thread.......you'd be doing something weird with your hips that doesn't even really translate into the cyber world so I'm not really even sure what it all means.......now if you meant you were "wasting" your time in my thread, than I understand you because you would be considering your time here in my thread as a "waste" as in refuse as in garbage...........which is what all of us do here at EF no matter who's thread we're in......hehe


:lmao:
 
halfcenturian said:
You need some BP meds. In the mean time go give a pint of blood. That will lower it immediately, for about 72 hours, by shear fluid reduction. BUT IT'S NOT A CURE. I know because I have the same problem. You want to be below 140/90 on cycle. Get some BP meds with a diurectic in it to reduce water build up ASAP. THAT'S what's causing BP to go up on cycle.
It's like adding too much water to a balloon....no jive, bro :)

i've got clen, would that help?
 
redsamurai said:
I've been on just about a week now, so I haven't had a chance to go to the doctor, if this keeps up I'm going later this week. When I get to the top of a stair case I get this momentary light headedness and my ears get clogged.........never had this happen before. Couple months ago I did virtually the same cycle, only I was on regular Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - at about 300-400mg/wk. The only differences now is that I'm on NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - and gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - as well. I had high hopes for this cycle, but if my BP keeps up like it is I'm going to have to stop cold or drastically reduce the dose. I was thinking that it was because I was taking the testosterone propionate and NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - at the same time.......hell, I'm drawin them up in the same needle.
i wonder why my doc didn't prescribe herbs? anyway, along with a bp med, you may ask for a mild water pill. i use both. it helps immensely, keeping harmful build up of fluids around your heart from happening, this is prolly the main reason of high bp in guys who juice, due to water retention. in the mean time, split an aspirin a day.
 
redsamurai said:
I read nitric oxide also works well.........what other herbs work well for lowering BP?




ps. if you were "waisting" your time in my thread.......you'd be doing something weird with your hips that doesn't even really translate into the cyber world so I'm not really even sure what it all means.......now if you meant you were "wasting" your time in my thread, than I understand you because you would be considering your time here in my thread as a "waste" as in refuse as in garbage...........which is what all of us do here at EF no matter who's thread we're in......hehe


:lmao:


thers a long list that can help and have ether bin tested or haven bin used since the dark ages for such things.I know your a man that can do his own research so I will just list them for you.
Avena Sativa Powder
Beta Glucan
Gamma-aminobutyric Acid (GABA)
Garlic (Allium sativum)
Hawthorn Berries
N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC)
Blackcurrant Fruit Extract
Calcium (Calcium carbonate)
Coleus Forskohlii (20% forskolin)
Hawthorn Berries
L-Arginine
L-Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate
Potassium (Potassium Ascorbate)
Taurine


happy researching.I only said I dont know why I am waisting my time because
well you and other c@c posters dont take me serious and as you can see I do my research and have good advice to offer,but carry on.
 
hahah, how bad is it? I'm on DNP, and i heard that raises your blood pressure, you think thats the culprit?
 
Bro in order to give you proper advices, please give us some accurate information. So:

How do you know your BP is high?
How much is your BP right now?

(clogged ears is not an answer)
 
halfcenturian said:
You need some BP meds. In the mean time go give a pint of blood. That will lower it immediately, for about 72 hours, by shear fluid reduction. BUT IT'S NOT A CURE. I know because I have the same problem. You want to be below 140/90 on cycle. Get some BP meds with a diurectic in it to reduce water build up ASAP. THAT'S what's causing BP to go up on cycle.
It's like adding too much water to a balloon....no jive, bro :)
giving blood is a bad idea heres why
1.if his bp is to high there going to tern him away right from the start I know my wife worked for the red cross.they do a bp check before you give blood and if to high they tern you away.so waist of time from the start
2.he is using aas
3no donating will not make your blood pressure drop can you please give proof to this.I my be wrong and I would really love to learn more about this if I am.
 
DJ_UFO said:
Bro in order to give you proper advices, please give us some accurate information. So:

How do you know your BP is high?
How much is your BP right now?

(clogged ears is not an answer)
this is true.it could be something else
 
I measuered it, my pap has heart problems so he has one of those machines that measure it, right now its, 169/53
 
pstate said:
I measuered it, my pap has heart problems so he has one of those machines that measure it, right now its, 169/53

If I was you I'd be dead. Mine right now is around 100/65
 
pstate said:
ohh wow, great, im sure custom caps has something to help though lol?
my bp even on the big cycle I am on now is around 120 over 70 but most of the time its low....


look do the research you think I just spit shit out my ass.I am here to help just as much as promote.
 
needtogetaas said:
my bp even on the big cycle I am on now is around 120 over 70 but most of the time its low....


look do the research you think I just spit shit out my ass.I am here to help just as much as promote.

i was being serious....you know i wasnt putting you down, common man you help me out alot
 
HumanTarget said:
what's your #'s, bud? i was recently read at 150/120. that doesn't seem to high, how long have you been on?


150/120 is terrible bro. you better do something about that dude.
 
yeah 150/120 is very high...you're driving that car at 50 in 2nd gear brother...
 
HumanTarget said:
ironically, my doc/nurse didn't seem very alarmed.


the 150 isn't terrible, the 120 is terribel dude. yea, as he said, your redlined dude. you gotta have some nasty headaches with that.
 
jagerbombme said:
the 150 isn't terrible, the 120 is terribel dude. yea, as he said, your redlined dude. you gotta have some nasty headaches with that.
they asked me if i was getting headaches, which i wasn't. i got back on my meds and the headaches started. wtf.
 
good shit bro, thanks.......and when have "I" not takin you seriously?


needtogetaas said:
thers a long list that can help and have ether bin tested or haven bin used since the dark ages for such things.I know your a man that can do his own research so I will just list them for you.
Avena Sativa Powder
Beta Glucan
Gamma-aminobutyric Acid (GABA)
Garlic (Allium sativum)
Hawthorn Berries
N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC)
Blackcurrant Fruit Extract
Calcium (Calcium carbonate)
Coleus Forskohlii (20% forskolin)
Hawthorn Berries
L-Arginine
L-Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate
Potassium (Potassium Ascorbate)
Taurine


happy researching.I only said I dont know why I am waisting my time because
well you and other c@c posters dont take me serious and as you can see I do my research and have good advice to offer,but carry on.
 
needtogetaas said:
giving blood is a bad idea heres why
1.if his bp is to high there going to tern him away right from the start I know my wife worked for the red cross.they do a bp check before you give blood and if to high they tern you away.so waist of time from the start
2.he is using anabolic androgenic steroids
3no donating will not make your blood pressure drop can you please give proof to this.I my be wrong and I would really love to learn more about this if I am.


Well giving blood will lower BP as your volume is decreased. For instance in emergency situations with LOW BP and loss of blood we give IV fluids and blood transfusionss to increase circulating volume and bring up the blood pressure.
 
redsamurai said:
back to an earlier question.........would it be a good idea to stagger the testosterone propionate and NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - ? Would it make a difference?


no, because even though they are fast acting, you still build up to certain levels. once you get to that level, you'll be there, even if your shooting on opposite days
 
redsamurai said:
back to an earlier question.........would it be a good idea to stagger the testosterone propionate and NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - ? Would it make a difference?
cut back on caffeine & other shit that elevates it. stay away from stimulants. don't even tell me you're a smoker....
 
HumanTarget said:
cut back on caffeine & other shit that elevates it. stay away from stimulants. don't even tell me you're a smoker....


ahem.......what kind of smoke are we talkin about here? Ciggarettes....nah.........weed???............................. :dodgy: ;)


hehe, I only smoke a litte weed.......had to the other night watching "The fountain"...........and I smoke maybe 1-2 cigars a month. But caffeine is a different story........I thought caffeine was a vassodilator........so that would help with blood pressure no? I'm a coffee fucking fiend........I make a blend of italian roast and a bit of hazelnut, it's like my favorite drink.......asking me to give up that is like asking me to give up vagina........seriously.
 
redsamurai said:
ahem.......what kind of smoke are we talkin about here? Ciggarettes....nah.........weed???............................. :dodgy: ;)


hehe, I only smoke a litte weed.......had to the other night watching "The fountain"...........and I smoke maybe 1-2 cigars a month. But caffeine is a different story........I thought caffeine was a vassodilator........so that would help with blood pressure no? I'm a coffee fucking fiend........I make a blend of italian roast and a bit of hazelnut, it's like my favorite drink.......asking me to give up that is like asking me to give up vagina........seriously.
lots of shit can raise your BP. salts, sweetners, etc...
 
It's definately better today, yesterday's shot was only 100mg prop.......and then I went and swam and did some cardio, so I don't feel it today........but god do I have a knot in my ass that feels tingly and warm all the time.......fuck it's always something.

off topic here, but have you seen the DOA trailer with your girl in your avi HT?
Looks horrible I know, but some fine ass in that movie......including Jamie.
 
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