Boldenone toxicity ...

[Svizac]

Ok guys, I know I will probably get flamed for asking this, but this is just a hypothetical question. And I'm worried about the cows

Anyway, I was searching for some article that would either confirm or deny boldenone's hepatotoxicity. I couldn't find any. I looked up sciencedirect.com, scholar.google.com (it aggregates from many sites) and nothing. Zip. Nada.

The only articles I found were about concurrent use of boldenone with some other steroids.

I'm looking for this info because on all the steroid profiles' sites I find the information that it is hepatotoxic to a very slight degree ... But none of them say exactly how, why or how much.

Anyway, I think this thing with boldenone being hepatotoxic is a big urban legend

The reason I am asking this is because I saw some people go for lifelong HRT with testosterone and wouldn't even consider boldenone as a permanent agent because of it's hepatotoxicity.

I believe guys, that we have been misled

If someone has some first hand information or a link to a study saying otherwise, please inform me

BTW, we are talking about hepatotoxicity only here. There are other forms of toxicity I wouldn't even want to go into now ...

PS: If there isn't a study saying TRUE or FALSE now, when I finish college, I'm gonna do a specific study concerning boldenone's toxicity

 

[access]

Mav would be your man...he can find studies on anything!

I have only read studies where liver toxicity was mostly dismissed when doing research on animals which is what EQ was designed for primarily. To me EQ is one of the safest steroids out there.

 

[holy ghost]

www.pubmed.gov

 

[Nelson Montana]

The reason there aren't a lot of conclusive studies on the effect on humans is because the drug is not intended for human consuption. Considering a vet product for HRT is absurd becauce HRT is prescribed and vet drugs are never prescribed to people.

 

[Svizac]

The reason there aren't a lot of conclusive studies on the effect on humans is because the drug is not intended for human consuption. Considering a vet product for HRT is absurd becauce HRT is prescribed and vet drugs are never prescribed to people.

i don't care if it's used on people or not ... we're so similar to pigs in hepatic metabolism that in a few years xenotransplantation will be possible.

all mammals have similar liver metabolism.

I want a study that says boldenone is toxic to other animals (other then man)

 

[needtogetaas]

eq is very mild.

 

[jagerbombme]

bump

 

[eddymerckx]

there are very few competitive pig races --the jockeys protested too much--so i am not sure its been used on many mammals besides horses (illegal to use in cattle or any animal used for human consumption in most countries)

 

[advanced-stealth]

http://www.elephantcare.org/Drugs/boldenon.htm

http://www.horseproducts.stablemade.com/articles2/Equipoise.htm

 

[eddymerckx]

http://www.elephantcare.org/Drugs/boldenon.htm

http://www.horseproducts.stablemade.com/articles2/Equipoise.htm

i am so glad that i am on the same drug given to elephants--the dose better not be the same or i may develop some kind of a complex

 

[holy ghost]

you might end up looking like LT WORF from star trek

IT HAPPEND TO PUDDLE!!!

TOO MUCH GROWTH HORMONE!

http://www.emse.fr/~yukna/WOIf/worf.jpg

 

[eddymerckx]

you might end up looking like LT WORF from star trek

IT HAPPEND TO PUDDLE!!!

TOO MUCH GROWTH HORMONE!

http://www.emse.fr/~yukna/WOIf/worf.jpg

lmao--but worf did get the chicks though--even if they had three boobs

 

[holy ghost]

Puddle also requires a Klingon-Woman for mateship.....

 

[eddymerckx]

Puddle also requires a Klingon-Woman for mateship.....

i would usually say that beauty is only a lightswitch away--but in these cases.....well...

 

[holy ghost]

yes those are whom he requires for reproduction/spawning!!!


lmao
He picked up the 2nd far left at a bar one night...

 

[eddymerckx]

yes those are whom he requires for reproduction/spawning!!!


lmao
He picked up the 2nd far left at a bar one night...

i will admit to some mistakes at 3am but none that looked like that the next morning--at least not quite that bad...

 

[Svizac]

So, conclusion - no hepatotoxicity (or at least the same as testosterone)?

 

[eddymerckx]

So, conclusion - no hepatotoxicity (or at least the same as testosterone)?

imo, of which i have no qualifications to render, is that it is no more hepatoxic that othwr injectables as it does not require some big ass benzene ring to survive the first pass through the liver. Although it's still metabol in the liver, the molecule is smaller and less likely to cause problems--but if you stack it with an oral (and over-do it with either multipe orals or long term use of orals) and drink a lot while on the cycle, of course you can have liver issues.


my values were fine after 16 weeks of 500 te and 500 eq--if that helps

 

[jagerbombme]

imo, of which i have no qualifications to render, is that it is no more hepatoxic that othwr injectables as it does not require some big ass benzene ring to survive the first pass through the liver. Although it's still metabol in the liver, the molecule is smaller and less likely to cause problems--but if you stack it with an oral (and over-do it with either multipe orals or long term use of orals) and drink a lot while on the cycle, of course you can have liver issues.


my values were fine after 16 weeks of 500 te and 500 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - --if that helps

benzene? benzene is some bad shit. its at the place i work? what steroids have benzene in them?

 

[samoth]

benzene? benzene is some bad shit. its at the place i work? what steroids have benzene in them?

Benzene is the common C6H6 ring:

This is not the same as a compound containing aromatic rings, which are many, e.g.:

 

[Svizac]

imo, of which i have no qualifications to render, is that it is no more hepatoxic that othwr injectables as it does not require some big ass benzene ring to survive the first pass through the liver. Although it's still metabol in the liver, the molecule is smaller and less likely to cause problems.

what you just said about pharmacokinetics makes no sense

al least that first part

 

[eddymerckx]

what you just said about pharmacokinetics makes no sense

al least that first part

my bad--i meant the addition of the 17 alpha alkylated to the outside ring to survive the first pass through the liver (e.g. equipoise v. d/bol virtually identical but for the CH3)---have not taken organic chem in 20 years--and benzene ring stuck in my head--which explains why i went into law

 

[jagerbombme]

my bad--i meant the addition of the 17 alpha alkylated to the outside ring to survive the first pass through the liver (e.g. equipoise v. d/bol virtually identical but for the CH3)---have not taken organic chem in 20 years--and benzene ring stuck in my head--which explains why i went into law

are you saying the benzene ring your speaking of is not the same chemical as in say an oil refinery that has benzene which will fuck you up and kill you from inhalation, absorbtion or injestion

 

[Mavafanculo]

Benzene is the common C6H6 ring:

This is not the same as a compound containing aromatic rings, which are many, e.g.:

Sig!

 

[Mavafanculo]

generally speaking, liver toxicity in the roid kingdom stems from orals 17aa modification to survive liver passage. Bold Undec is IM and not 17aa

I've never read anything implying classic EQ to be liver toxic.

Dont know about the new oral boldenones (a cylodextrin based sublingual and I THINK I remember reading about an UG pill form)

 

[eddymerckx]

are you saying the benzene ring your speaking of is not the same chemical as in say an oil refinery that has benzene which will fuck you up and kill you from inhalation, absorbtion or injestion

i am saying i called a 17 alk a benzene ring by mistake and then corrected it

 

[eddymerckx]

Sig!

yea, i corrected it in my follow-up post-

 

[eddymerckx]

generally speaking, liver toxicity in the roid kingdom stems from orals 17 alpha-alkylated modification to survive liver passage. Bold Undec is IM and not 17 alpha-alkylated

I've never read anything implying classic Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - to be liver toxic.

Dont know about the new oral boldenones (a cylodextrin based sublingual and I THINK I remember reading about an UG pill form)

i would imagine an oral eq/bold/ would have to have the extra CH3 to surive the first pass through the liver but i cannot think of any reason that an inj would need it b/c the Depot just releases directly into the bloodstream over time

 

[holy ghost]

i would imagine an oral Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - /bold/ would have to have the extra CH3 to surive the first pass through the liver but i cannot think of any reason that an inj would need it b/c the Depot just releases directly into the bloodstream over time

agreeed