Bodybuilding's best even agrees.......

[BBR100]

I was just at the barber shop getting a haircut and I picked up either STUFF or FHM or some other equally as annoying mag while I was waiting, but regardless it is the new issue with Vida Guererra on the cover.

Anyway, the back has an advice column called "Ask Mr. Olympia with Jay Cutler". One of the topics was 'Puttig on mass'. Cutler said that the majority of a person's size comes from the back and legs and that the most effective way to train them are with deadlifts, free weight barbell rows, and squats. He said something along the lines of those lifts are tough and most gym trainees skip them, which, not coincidentally, is why most gym trainees are small, lol.

I just thought it would be interesting for all the "5x5 is for strength and basic lifts don't build size" 175lb monsters cruising the board to hear it from a bodybuilder.

Another excellent post!
Appreciate ALL the good advice you give on this site. Always helpful.
Thanks

 

[Kabeetz]

Well here is my question for BB Rows, I am still learning them. Is it an over handed grip or underhanded or does it matter? And is it suppost to come all the way to your belly button to touch? I de-weight it every rep but I really haven't found any good videos of BB rows, every is throwing themselves up and then pull their body TO the bar instead of pulling the bar towards themselves.

Supposedly where u bring the bar too, whether it be closer to your rib cage or closer to your belly button will train ur lats slightly differently, so a little variety can't hurt. I try to bring it right in the middle of the two. But don't take my word for it cuz I'm just beginning to learn how to train right.

As for how everybody does it, everybody must be doing it wrong because of using too much weight.

There was a thread a couple weeks back about good row youtube videos and the consensus was that at heavy weights u will see some form compromise, its to be expected, but not to the extent u describe.

 

[Rabid_Goose]

I'll have to search for it when I get back, and even if you are new, any advice is appreciated. I'm new too it also, I still have my BB Row Form and DL'ing form to perfect, I think my squat form after several times it down pact. I'll be going to a friends gym here in a few weeks and he has a video camera. Hopefully in about 2-3 weeks I'll have a video of all my forms up for critque.

 

[Tweakle]

ronnie's been saying that for years, dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight. But the lil' tbol and celltech monsters who live on the internet still don't want to lift heavy in case they get too blocky

 

[SgtSlaughter]

There was a thread a couple weeks back about good row youtube videos

just for good measure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIUg8nDVEFs

 

[NJL52]

Hrmm...thought you guys were talking about the Bronco's QB for a min and I was thinking, who cares what a QB has to say about bodybuilding?

 

[Protobuilder]

just for good measure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIUg8nDVEFs

I'm nobody, you know, but I like a little more bar speed and more of an explosive row. Slowest part should be off the floor, with the bar accelerating into the abdomen as you get to your strongest range of motion (the final squeeze).

 

[H_T_]

it's how i built my back, least what's left of it.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I'm nobody, you know, but I like a little more bar speed and more of an explosive row. Slowest part should be off the floor, with the bar accelerating into the abdomen as you get to your strongest range of motion (the final squeeze).

haha, shut up man... you know what your talking about even if ur non-plat.

Agreed Proto, i'm an advocate of explosiveness and acceleration for sure.

This may be a better example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvWeC2dXRsA

The other one was damn strict, impressive I thought for the weight... still waiting on the Bigg guy youtube vids to appear

 

[jpt]

I will say, I am rarely injured, and aside from a few minor tweaks and dings here and there over the past 14 years, I've never been seriously hurt and out of comission from lifting-related injuries. And I squat multiple times a week ATF with a high % of 1rm.....I pull from the floor multiple times a week, I BB row, I SLDL, I do BEHIND THE NECK overhead work, lol.

Lifting-related injuried among powerlifters, throwers, olympic lifters, sprinters, and strongmen who train so-called "dangerous" lifts heavy and frequently are also VERY uncommon,

NOW....all of the "Joe gym goers" who spend all their time on Hammer STrength machines, Universal machines, and Cybex set-ups and don't row, deadlift, squat, or free weight OHP because it is "too dangerous" are ALWAYS complaining of knee, back, neck, shoulder, ass ,ball, everything, lol injuries.

bro....i could not agree more with you. aftre i had my knee surgeries my docs told me to use more smith machine work and hammer strenght at the gym....since then i've had a shoulder surgery and an now getting cortizone shots in my back due to degenerative discs and herniated discs. wish i would have known about this board years ago...or had different docs