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ACE has poor standars then. Different gov sites have Obese for men at 25% so I was off a bit.
Body building workout vs. Strength training workout
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ACE has poor standars then. Different gov sites have Obese for men at 25% so I was off a bit.
ACE has poor standars then. Different gov sites have Obese for men at 25% so I was off a bit.
axemurderer
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I'll chime in since I'm an ectomorph and have tried both ways of training that are being discussed here. So here's my advice based on your goals:
Rotate your training between different styles of training. Do the 5x5 training style for 6-8 weeks, then do bodybuilding type training for 8-12 weeks. Break it up every now and then with a week or two of Crossfit training. You'll figure out which of those 3 styles will give you what you want, or you can just continue to rotate between them so you don't get burned out.
For "bodybuilding" type training, I recommend looking into Omega's program. Just use the money that you were probably saving up for gear. I've run his program for the past couple of months and it's been a real wake-up call. I used to train the 5x5 stuff a lot but was getting burned out. So far, I've gained 5 or so pounds (drug free) but my body looks much different. If you're Platinum, check out my thread in Omega's forum.
Rotate your training between different styles of training. Do the 5x5 training style for 6-8 weeks, then do bodybuilding type training for 8-12 weeks. Break it up every now and then with a week or two of Crossfit training. You'll figure out which of those 3 styles will give you what you want, or you can just continue to rotate between them so you don't get burned out.
For "bodybuilding" type training, I recommend looking into Omega's program. Just use the money that you were probably saving up for gear. I've run his program for the past couple of months and it's been a real wake-up call. I used to train the 5x5 stuff a lot but was getting burned out. So far, I've gained 5 or so pounds (drug free) but my body looks much different. If you're Platinum, check out my thread in Omega's forum.
Will Goes Boing
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What if I do 1 day of only compound lifts, 4 days of isolating exercises with corresponding compound lifts thrown into the mix?
For example on back day aside from a few isolation exercises I will throw in a 5x6-8 deadlift, or on shoulder day I will throw in a 5x6-8 standing military press?
For example on back day aside from a few isolation exercises I will throw in a 5x6-8 deadlift, or on shoulder day I will throw in a 5x6-8 standing military press?
research periodization and you are set.
I think you'd be much more successful with this:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/weight-training-weight-lifting/ultimate-training-split-650464.html The Ultimate Training Split
The thing is whatever your goal is you have to build the proper foundation. It's not just about getting strong or making certain body parts pop but getting all the parts working together to build the desired effect. It's the only way you can take it to the next level.
You're not going to be able to do this segregating your program and with only one day of compound lifts. You shouldn't be thinking in terms of either/or but in striking a balance. Unless you have lot's of experience it doesn't make sense to guess when there's proven ideas that work.
You said you wanted an 'athletic' look, that's what Kelly Baggett is good at - building athletes. You'll find enough leeway here to personalize your program and at the same time get the fundamentals you need to be successful. The important thing is you'll be getting off on the right foot. You may not want to be a 'strength athlete' but if you're going to spend time in the gym, you've still got to pay those dues, no way around it.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/weight-training-weight-lifting/ultimate-training-split-650464.html The Ultimate Training Split
The thing is whatever your goal is you have to build the proper foundation. It's not just about getting strong or making certain body parts pop but getting all the parts working together to build the desired effect. It's the only way you can take it to the next level.
You're not going to be able to do this segregating your program and with only one day of compound lifts. You shouldn't be thinking in terms of either/or but in striking a balance. Unless you have lot's of experience it doesn't make sense to guess when there's proven ideas that work.
You said you wanted an 'athletic' look, that's what Kelly Baggett is good at - building athletes. You'll find enough leeway here to personalize your program and at the same time get the fundamentals you need to be successful. The important thing is you'll be getting off on the right foot. You may not want to be a 'strength athlete' but if you're going to spend time in the gym, you've still got to pay those dues, no way around it.
i did not reccoment steroids at all... i was simply stating that when he cuts it will be hard enough to keep as much muscle as he would need to be 155@8% on aas...let alone nattural so what i was getting at was he should bulk up more... sorry if i wasnt clear on that... but i definately wasnt reccomending aas...
...as far as the compound lifts go... if you want to be functionaly strong that IS THE WAY TO GO... if you want to just look strong... go ahead with the iso moves...
Great advice here, if i wasn't so obsessed with all this and could only hit the gym 3 times a week i would follow this split.
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