Blood Test ZRT - 9mo post cycle

[cgar1228]

Hormone Test.....In Range...Out Of Range...Units.....Range
Estradiol.........................<10L..............pg/ml........(12-56)
Testosterone...................280L...............ng/dL.....(400-1200)
Ratio: T/SHBG.................0.4..................L...........(.7 - 1.0)
DHEAS................135...........................ug/dL.....(70-325)
Cortisol...............12.3..........................ug/dL.....(6-13,Morning)
SHBG..................26............................nmol/L....(15-50)
PSA....................1.0...........................ng/ml.....(optimal 0.5-2)


This test was done last week and it has been 9 months since my deca/test cycle. I have done 2 PCTs utilizing HCG both times as well as Nolvadex and almost every thing you can think of.

I am wondering where to go from here b/c before this cycle my total testosterone was 990 and now it is 280 and hasn't gone up since my blood sample a few weeks after my cycle. PLEASE HELP me figure out what I need to do. Thanks. K to all

 

[stevesmi]

i know everyone is gonna say go on HRT. but I will tell you that the body will recover.. give it more time.

you didn't mention how long your deca cycle was.

 

[lartinos]

If you aren't using any peptides I would jump on one asap. IGF-1 works quite well for me, I would also be using a moderate to weak AI along with it.
I would stay away from the HCG for a awhile and I would work on lowering your cortisol levels because you want a good ratio between the two to get the highest test levels. Try using some good doses of vitamin C for awhile and cut down on stimulants as well. I would wait to take your adderllin. Ghrp, igf-1, HGH, etc... I would try one and see how you feel.

 

[cgar1228]

i know everyone is gonna say go on HRT. but I will tell you that the body will recover.. give it more time.

you didn't mention how long your deca cycle was.

deca 10wk 400mg/wk
test 12wk 500mg/wk

It's been 9 months and my testosterone levels have not gone up even 10 points from where they were a month after my cycle... They were 290 now they are 280.... I have taken all the right steps to get everything going again so you'd think after 9 mos this would be better... My libido is def not what it was before cycle so that's the main thing that concerns me. I'm taking Unleashed right now with no rise in sex drive.

 

[cgar1228]

If you aren't using any peptides I would jump on one asap. IGF-1 works quite well for me, I would also be using a moderate to weak AI along with it.
I would stay away from the HCG for a awhile and I would work on lowering your cortisol levels because you want a good ratio between the two to get the highest test levels. Try using some good doses of vitamin C for awhile and cut down on stimulants as well. I would wait to take your adderllin. Ghrp, igf-1, HGH, etc... I would try one and see how you feel.

I started taking HGH Hygetropin at 4iu per day 2 months ago. I have also been taking about 3g of Vit C per day for the last year. I didn't take it on the morning of the test b/c I was fasting so I don't understand what's going on. I do eventually want to cycle again and it doesn't seem like my body is recovering...

 

[stevesmi]

deca 10wk 400mg/wk
test 12wk 500mg/wk

It's been 9 months and my testosterone levels have not gone up even 10 points from where they were a month after my cycle... They were 290 now they are 280.... I have taken all the right steps to get everything going again so you'd think after 9 mos this would be better... My libido is def not what it was before cycle so that's the main thing that concerns me. I'm taking Unleashed right now with no rise in sex drive.

I don't get it bro. all we can do is exchange our own experiences. most guys on here are either cruising or on HRT and have given up on cycling which makes it even harder to get reliable information on true cycling.. i really do believe the body takes longer then people think to recover. I have read that deca takes 5 full weeks for the esthers just to clear the body, so it will suppress you hard everytime.

I will tell you this:

i ran the same cycle.

6 weeks after my last injection and after PCT. my total test was 98 and kidney values were off. (no big surprise as roids do increase red blood cell count) I was concerned but not that worried

2 1/2 months after last injection and PCT my levels only got up to 119. i realized it would take TIME.

i ran another PCT. and i plan on doing a blood test next month. i hope to be within range.

my best advice again would be to just let the body recover on its own. dont take anything.. re-test in 2 months.

i do believe deca can take a year to finally get recovered. i am not messing with it ever again. its primo for me from now on

 

[needtogetarmy]

How old are you?

Normal ranges can depend on age.

Male Normal Testosterone Levels - Average Ranges by Age in Men | ng/dl and nmol/L

You need to get a full panel done, including free test, LH, etc.

I have seen studies that Deca can permanently decrease HPTA functioning by 25% or so.

 

[cgar1228]

How old are you?

Normal ranges can depend on age.

Male Normal Testosterone Levels - Average Ranges by Age in Men | ng/dl and nmol/L

You need to get a full panel done, including free test, LH, etc.

I have seen studies that Deca can permanently decrease HPTA functioning by 25% or so.

I am 31yo and my Normal/Never cycled before results were 953.

I have had a full test done and have the link to that here.....
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...cle-before-after-blood-comparison-708745.html

Thanks for your help bro

 

[needtogetarmy]

I am 31yo and my Normal/Never cycled before results were 953.

I have had a full test done and have the link to that here.....
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...cle-before-after-blood-comparison-708745.html

Thanks for your help bro

It looks like your body is not producing enough LH and FSH.

I would run 1000ius of HCG two times per week for three to four weeks. Nothing else. People have a habit of throwing everything including the kitchen sink when doing PCT, like running clomid and HCG together with a ton of supplements. Running clomid and HCG by itself is counterproductive and it can impede recovery.

Do the HCG protocol and then get blood work done two weeks after and see where you stand.

Just as it was posted above, it can take a long time to recover.

I read an article on female pregnancy and male test levels and male test levels drop when a female gives birth. Why? To lower the aggressiveness of the male so he becomes a good dad. The same study showed that it takes 6-9 months for the male to get back to his baseline levels.

That said, HCG and other substances can assist in bringing up your levels, but it also takes time.

 

[cgar1228]

It looks like your body is not producing enough LH and FSH.

I would run 1000ius of HCG two times per week for three to four weeks. Nothing else. People have a habit of throwing everything including the kitchen sink when doing PCT, like running clomid and HCG together with a ton of supplements. Running clomid and HCG by itself is counterproductive and it can impede recovery.

Do the HCG protocol and then get blood work done two weeks after and see where you stand.

Just as it was posted above, it can take a long time to recover.

I read an article on female pregnancy and male test levels and male test levels drop when a female gives birth. Why? To lower the aggressiveness of the male so he becomes a good dad. The same study showed that it takes 6-9 months for the male to get back to his baseline levels.

That said, HCG and other substances can assist in bringing up your levels, but it also takes time.

I ran HCG after my cycle but probably didn't run enough doing it only 4 times at 600iu.

My second PCT consisted of HCG at 500iu ED for 10 days and then used Nolva for 3 wks at 20mg per day. This was about 2 1/2 months ago I did this.

Do you really thing I should try HCG again?? Since then I have bought HMG and HCG but have them waiting for my next cycle... so I have them on hand but really don't want to the exact same thing that failed last time.