Better Late Than Never ...

[Big Burt]

I'm a 44 year old man who is lookin to start using. Have been told to go with 200 mg. of test, sust or deca a week. Does this sound right? Also, does this stuff work on old guys? Working out 4x a week, but not satisfied with progress. Taking creatine, L-glutamine and whey protein. Need advice. Thanks.

 

[GUESS]

I'm a 44 year old man who is lookin to start using. Have been told to go with 200 mg. of test, sust or deca a week. Does this sound right? Also, does this stuff work on old guys? Working out 4x a week, but not satisfied with progress. Taking creatine, L-glutamine and whey protein. Need advice. Thanks.

Well I hope you've been workin' out at least 8 months solid to even consider. If so TEST is a good first cycle, you should inject minumum 250 mg a week but no more than 500 mg. When your done do a mild PCT to come back to normal and to salvage most of your gains. Eat clean with plenty of calories and taking in at least 1 gram of whey for every pound of body mass. drink plenty of water and watch your carbs while on the cycle carbs can cause pretty good water retention and also don't drink while on, you'll get better gains. Good luck and I hope you did your homework before taking the plunge. No disrespect but at your age you have to watch your health especially your heart.

Good Luck Bro and let us know how it went!

 

[digimon7068]

I'm a 44 year old man who is lookin to start using. Have been told to go with 200 mg. of test, sust or deca a week. Does this sound right? Also, does this stuff work on old guys? Working out 4x a week, but not satisfied with progress. Taking creatine, L-glutamine and whey protein. Need advice. Thanks.

Works for me (41 YOA). If I had to recommend (assuming that it's your first go round), I'd say try test enanthate or sustanon at 250mg per week for 8 to 10 weeks. Make sure you have PCT in place before your start and make sure you eat right (high protien, moderate fat, low-to-moderate carbs) and train hard. Lots of people will tell you to use 500mg per week and stack other drugs and use an oral like dbol for the first few weeks, etc, etc. But, for your first time around, I'd say KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid).

Also, if you haven't done so already, do some serious research first. There's all kinds of info on this board.

 

[Big Burt]

Thanks man. I have been working out religiously for 4 years and have gained a bit, but not as much as I want.

So I need to get TEST and inject, say, 250 mg a week. For how many weeks? Also, what does a mild PCT mean? I have no problem eating right, etc. I just don't want my first time to be a bummer. ALso, I don't need to stack yet, right??

I need to know where I can get a "slang" listing. This is gonna take some time to figure out, but I'm ready to go.

Thanks bro.

Well I hope you've been workin' out at least 8 months solid to even consider. If so TEST is a good first cycle, you should inject minumum 250 mg a week but no more than 500 mg. When your done do a mild PCT to come back to normal and to salvage most of your gains. Eat clean with plenty of calories and taking in at least 1 gram of whey for every pound of body mass. drink plenty of water and watch your carbs while on the cycle carbs can cause pretty good water retention and also don't drink while on, you'll get better gains. Good luck and I hope you did your homework before taking the plunge. No disrespect but at your age you have to watch your health especially your heart.

Good Luck Bro and let us know how it went!

 

[Its All Genetics]

hey bro, never too late.. welcome to the dark side. my first cycle i did test prop at 400 mgs ew. i would suggest test e cause its less pokes and i just prefer it better in general. i woul say 500 mgs of test e ew. with 10 mgs of nolva everyday. and there are various pct ideas that u can go with i think its everybodys own liking as to what they use. but the basic would be clomid and nolva. u run some test and get ready to feel like ur 19 yr old again!!!!

 

[falcon9901]

Thanks man. I have been working out religiously for 4 years and have gained a bit, but not as much as I want.

So I need to get TEST and inject, say, 250 mg a week. For how many weeks? Also, what does a mild PCT mean? I have no problem eating right, etc. I just don't want my first time to be a bummer. ALso, I don't need to stack yet, right??

I need to know where I can get a "slang" listing. This is gonna take some time to figure out, but I'm ready to go.

Thanks bro.

PCT- Post Cycle Therapy
TEST- Testosterone

And yeah I agree with the other posts related to your question. Keep it simple and run 500mg for 10 weeks. Follow up with pct. Good luck man! Im sure youll be happy with the results

 

[falcon9901]

Slang Terms...

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=414921

 

[Big Burt]

OK ... 500 mg. of test / once a week for 10 weeks. Then a pct. How do I know what PCT to take?? Any thoughts here?

 

[GUESS]

OK ... 500 mg. of test / once a week for 10 weeks. Then a pct. How do I know what PCT to take?? Any thoughts here?

Alright Bro, I did a simple cycle of TEST CYP just this summer to get a little edge in the gym, I had the itch, I ran 750mgs a week for 10 weeks but I got a little iresponsible and didn't do my post cycle therapy and i shut down really hars. That means I had no sex drive and couldn't get it up. I found this out the hard way when I met this super hot chick and when it came time to do the nasty I was out to lunch. Anyway I thought I would share that with you all, just a funny story to make you guys laugh. Having said that i did 150mgs of CLOMID every day for 3 weeks and 600 iu's of HCG for 3 weeks. What I just mentioned is a Post Cycle Therapy (PCT). Visit www.ag-guys.com for your PCT needs. Also go 500mgs of either TEST Enanthate or TEST Cypionate as mentioned for 8-10 weeks. Also you should start your PCT the 3 or 2 last week of your cyle, as mentioned there is alot of good PCT idews on this site so check it out.

One last thing, if you have any questiions at all just PM me(private message) I really want you to have an awesome fisrt cycle so once again all the best on the first cycle!

 

[axe3]

OK ... 500 mg. of test / once a week for 10 weeks. Then a pct. How do I know what PCT to take?? Any thoughts here?

Burt: go to the "My steroid cycle" page at the top is a sticky titled post cycle therapy...Radars sticky. STUDY IT. It has all the info you will need. As an older dude yer pct is going to be very important.

Best of luck!!!

axe

 

[pushnpedl]

i used to always advise 500mg /wk single ester test , test e or cyp, but now i am becoming a fan of recomending 300-350 mg /wk for first cycle.

 

[asianlover]

How do I know what PCT to take??

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

 

[silverbackn]

Well I hope you've been workin' out at least 8 months solid to even consider. If so TEST is a good first cycle, you should inject minumum 250 mg a week but no more than 500 mg. When your done do a mild PCT to come back to normal and to salvage most of your gains. Eat clean with plenty of calories and taking in at least 1 gram of whey for every pound of body mass. drink plenty of water and watch your carbs while on the cycle carbs can cause pretty good water retention and also don't drink while on, you'll get better gains. Good luck and I hope you did your homework before taking the plunge. No disrespect but at your age you have to watch your health especially your heart.

Good Luck Bro and let us know how it went!

Agree with most of what was said. However, don't watch your carbs or you won't grow! I don't know how many people have come up to me and said they just weren't growing, then they tell me they are keeping carbs low. How the hell can test be anabolic without calories! I also don't think you are sacrificing your health by using 500mg's of test for 10 weeks.

 

[Big Burt]

Thanks Silverbackn,

So when you say to use 500mg's of test for 10 weeks, do I want to take 500 each week? Also, what do you recommend for PCT? I'm trying to make an informed decision. Got everything lined up, just need to bite the bullit and GO!

Burt

Agree with most of what was said. However, don't watch your carbs or you won't grow! I don't know how many people have come up to me and said they just weren't growing, then they tell me they are keeping carbs low. How the hell can test be anabolic without calories! I also don't think you are sacrificing your health by using 500mg's of test for 10 weeks.

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

How big are you? I will toss in that you will make good gains with test alone, say 250mg every 5 days, for 10 weeks, but it sounds like you will want to do some more research on the side effects, benefits, how to inject, how to eat-lift-rest for optimum gains, and what to do post cycle to keep your gains and not put your body into a funk.

44 is not too late. I started at 37, and I have my 3rd and 4th cycles coming up.

Good luck,


Bluesman

 

[Big Burt]

How big are you? I will toss in that you will make good gains with test alone, say 250mg every 5 days, for 10 weeks, but it sounds like you will want to do some more research on the side effects, benefits, how to inject, how to eat-lift-rest for optimum gains, and what to do post cycle to keep your gains and not put your body into a funk.

44 is not too late. I started at 37, and I have my 3rd and 4th cycles coming up.

Good luck,


Bluesman

How does this stack look to you guys for a beginner??


Equipoise Test. Enanthate H.C.G.
Week 1 200mg
Week 2 200mg 250mg
Week 3 200mg 250mg
Week 4 200mg 250mg
Week 5 200mg 250mg
Week 6 200mg 250mg
Week 7 200mg 250mg
Week 8 200mg 250mg
Week 9 200mg 250mg
Week 10 200mg 250mg
Week 11 250mg
Week 12
Week 13 5-7,500 i.u.
Week 14 5,000 i.u.
Week 15 3,000 i.u.

 

[Big_Joe]

How does this stack look to you guys for a beginner??


Equipoise Test. Enanthate H.C.G.
Week 1 200mg
Week 2 200mg 250mg
Week 3 200mg 250mg
Week 4 200mg 250mg
Week 5 200mg 250mg
Week 6 200mg 250mg
Week 7 200mg 250mg
Week 8 200mg 250mg
Week 9 200mg 250mg
Week 10 200mg 250mg
Week 11 250mg
Week 12
Week 13 5-7,500 i.u.
Week 14 5,000 i.u.
Week 15 3,000 i.u.

Hi Burt how's Ernie? Sorry couldn't resist.

I am on my first cycle and I'm fifty. I did a lot of research and I am doing sustanon 250 twice a week. That is twice your proposed test cycle but for your first time I would leave off the EQ. I would also suggest a different use of hcg. I noticed my guys going away fairly rapidly when I started my cycle. Most likely because of my age. I didn't wait for the end of the cycle to use hcg. But I had to be creative with the dosage. The vials I have for hcg are 5000 iu vials. So I got some sterile 10 ml vials from www.getpinz.com and some bacteriostatic water also. I then used 2 ml of the bacteriostatic water to reconstitute the hcg and put it in the 10 ml vial. I then add 8 ml of just the bacterial static water to the vial. This gives a solution that is 500 iu per ml. I use 1 ml every three to five days while on cycle. My guys are happy campers now. When you get to be our age you can't wait to try and recover after the cycle. Don't let your balls shrink in the first place. Mine now are big fat and healthy just the way I like them.

And by the way when I started I was going to try an 8 week cycle but now I am going to extend it to 12 weeks. I'm on week seven and it's just starting to really kick in for me. I think this is an age thing also. I keep my protein intake up and I carb out at lest once a week but also eat carbs during the week.

Here is my FAV pancake recipe:

Put about half cup uncooked oatmeal in a bowl, add six to eight egg whites and two whole eggs. Give it a splash of milk. Let it sit for about ten to fifteen minutes so the oatmeal can soak up some of the egg. I then sift in some Jiffy corn bread mix. Just enough to make a batter then fry like a pancake. I use sugar free jam on mine but you can do what you like.


SO my bottom line is drop the EQ, double up on the test and change the way you do the hcg. That is what's working for me.


On my next cycle I will try using EQ but I wanted to see how my body reacts to just test first before I start adding other stuff.

Good luck and train smart.

 

[Big Burt]

Thanks for the goodly advice Big Joe. Good to know there are others in my age range getting started late. I'm still researching, but getting close. Probably will do 250 Test E for 10 weeks, and follow up with a good PCT of 150mgs of CLOMID every day for 3 weeks and 600 iu's of HCG for 3 weeks.

Does anybody reuse their needles or do I use a new one for every shot? Advice men??

Burt

Hi Burt how's Ernie? Sorry couldn't resist.

I am on my first cycle and I'm fifty. I did a lot of research and I am doing sustanon 250 twice a week. That is twice your proposed test cycle but for your first time I would leave off the EQ. I would also suggest a different use of hcg. I noticed my guys going away fairly rapidly when I started my cycle. Most likely because of my age. I didn't wait for the end of the cycle to use hcg. But I had to be creative with the dosage. The vials I have for hcg are 5000 iu vials. So I got some sterile 10 ml vials from www.getpinz.com and some bacteriostatic water also. I then used 2 ml of the bacteriostatic water to reconstitute the hcg and put it in the 10 ml vial. I then add 8 ml of just the bacterial static water to the vial. This gives a solution that is 500 iu per ml. I use 1 ml every three to five days while on cycle. My guys are happy campers now. When you get to be our age you can't wait to try and recover after the cycle. Don't let your balls shrink in the first place. Mine now are big fat and healthy just the way I like them.

And by the way when I started I was going to try an 8 week cycle but now I am going to extend it to 12 weeks. I'm on week seven and it's just starting to really kick in for me. I think this is an age thing also. I keep my protein intake up and I carb out at lest once a week but also eat carbs during the week.

Here is my FAV pancake recipe:

Put about half cup uncooked oatmeal in a bowl, add six to eight egg whites and two whole eggs. Give it a splash of milk. Let it sit for about ten to fifteen minutes so the oatmeal can soak up some of the egg. I then sift in some Jiffy corn bread mix. Just enough to make a batter then fry like a pancake. I use sugar free jam on mine but you can do what you like.


SO my bottom line is drop the EQ, double up on the test and change the way you do the hcg. That is what's working for me.


On my next cycle I will try using EQ but I wanted to see how my body reacts to just test first before I start adding other stuff.

Good luck and train smart.

 

[Big_Joe]

Thanks for the goodly advice Big Joe. Good to know there are others in my age range getting started late. I'm still researching, but getting close. Probably will do 250 Test E for 10 weeks, and follow up with a good PCT of 150mgs of CLOMID every day for 3 weeks and 600 iu's of HCG for 3 weeks.

Does anybody reuse their needles or do I use a new one for every shot? Advice men??

Burt

Only reuse your needles if you want to suffer and die!!! They are cheap, don't fuck up over a few dollars. Some people even suggest using one needle to draw with and another to inject.

 

[Big Burt]

OK Joe ... will do.

You ever IM?? I'm on Yahoo. I'd like to talk with you more, is that cool? Or email me at [email protected] if you care to.

Thanks.

Only reuse your needles if you want to suffer and die!!! They are cheap, don't fuck up over a few dollars. Some people even suggest using one needle to draw with and another to inject.

 

[GUESS]

Only reuse your needles if you want to suffer and die!!! They are cheap, don't fuck up over a few dollars. Some people even suggest using one needle to draw with and another to inject.

Yeah! What he said!!!!