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Obviously steroids are great for bulking but what do you guys think works best for cutting?
best steroid for fat loss
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You can use just about any type of AAS to "cut" with, it all depends on your diet as to the outcome of your cycle. That being said, I personally would go with Testosterone-Tren-Anastrozole
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nishnish
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a solid diet is far more important than the steroid used.
however, someone at a low bodyfat % could get fantastic hardening results from winstrol, masteron, primobolan, eq, tenbolone, and even DECA. yeah that's right DECA. just need something to flush the water out.
you want to know another steroid that is fantastic for dieting???
ANADROL
oxymetholone will help you retain more mass while dieting than any other drug, and the high androgenic component will make you hard as fuck. once again, you just need something to flush the water out.
and also once again, it's all useless if you eat like shit.
don't rely on steroids to "get ripped". that is such a load of bullshit and i'm sick of reading it.
SORT YOUR FUCKING DIET OUT. DIET IS KEY
however, someone at a low bodyfat % could get fantastic hardening results from winstrol, masteron, primobolan, eq, tenbolone, and even DECA. yeah that's right DECA. just need something to flush the water out.
you want to know another steroid that is fantastic for dieting???
ANADROL
oxymetholone will help you retain more mass while dieting than any other drug, and the high androgenic component will make you hard as fuck. once again, you just need something to flush the water out.
and also once again, it's all useless if you eat like shit.
don't rely on steroids to "get ripped". that is such a load of bullshit and i'm sick of reading it.
SORT YOUR FUCKING DIET OUT. DIET IS KEY
MeatheadJD said:
Best to just cut up on are either winny or anavar. I would never do winny alone though, so by its self anavar. With something else, maybe winny, but you need something to lube up those joints, primo would be fine for that.
Best to add lean muscle, while reducing calories is primo, I think the only other compound that can do this is fina. Everything else needs calories to make you grow.
From experience I have grown on primo and fina while taking in low calories. Nothing else had done this for me. (high protein of course but low calories)
will b huge
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GH!!
will update ya!
will update ya!
Ulter said:
I am going to try to defend him and think that he was asking what would help preserve muscle the best while dieting, but if he was thinking that they burn fat then..........tear him a new one! j/k
Yea, Ulter said, gear doesn't burn fat, it can only preserve muscle. Indirectly by adding muscle you will burn more calories, but directly, gear doesnt burn fat.
I'd say that even fat loss agents are not that effective, not to talk about roids which have nothing to do with fat - although someone said they can preserve muscle mass while dieting. My opinion - diet, cardio, diet, cardio, diet ... I think you got the point.. If not return to previous.
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY
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MUSTANG_18 said:
Word
I'm cutting with Test Suspension and Winstrol right now. Best combo EVER for me. Coupled with a moderate diet and 30 minutes of cardio 3X/week... I've been at 7%BF for two months on this cycle. All my friends wanna hit Suspension to get hard now... but its more diet than drugs to carve a physique down to this kind of hardness.
sparetire
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well, i've been reading that masteron can actually cause a little bit of fat loss , outside of the cardio/weight training.
"For those looking to reduce body-fat and water retention such a compound is literally a dream. Drostanolone, being 5-alpha reduced, cannot form estrogen upon interaction with the aromatase enzyme yet still shows a very high affinity for it. Because it takes up so much of the aromatase enzyme, yet is refrained from actually using it by its structural make-up, it reduces the amount of estrogen formed1 from other steroids as well because there are less aromatase enzymes to be used by those compounds to form estrogen with. This made stacking with slightly aromatizing compounds such as boldenone much more bearable as it eliminated even the slight aromatisation of such substances. So for bodybuilders the use of drostanolone is not only in limiting estrogens in question, but also eliminating possible estrogen formation from other steroids used during this time for increased anabolic or anti-catabolic activity. This because, especially for larger bodybuilders, drostanolone alone does not suffice to retain the maximum amount of weight.
The reduction of estrogenic capacity of course made drostanolone ill-suited for use as a mass-builder. In fact the gains on it were quite limited. Someone seeking to gain muscle mass rarely, if ever, resorted to a DHT compound. But coupled to its extreme androgenic qualities it lead to the perfect compound to retain strength and mass while shedding body-fat. The absence of estrogen refrained it from increasing water or salt retention, and there is evidence that the androgenic component may expedite the fat loss process2. The exact mechanims by which a rise in androgens stimulates fat loss is not known, but it is theorized that it may be due to catecholamine-induced (epinephrine, norepinephrine and dopamine) lipolysis, caused by the androgen increasing the number of beta-adrenergic receptors (the primary triggers for fat mobilization) on the membrane surface of fat cells. It is my understanding however that the noted decrease in body-fat is mainly due to a slight increase in lean mass and a stagnation of the body-fat, automatically resulting in a loss of body-fat in percentages, after recalibration.
This would also highly promote its use for power- and weightlifters as they compete in weight classes. Drostanolone can promote the increased strength while keeping body-fat the same or even lowering it. Allowing for an increased perfomance without the risk of being cast into a higher and more difficult weight class.
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i'll find out for sure when i run it with ot,eq starting july 5th.
"For those looking to reduce body-fat and water retention such a compound is literally a dream. Drostanolone, being 5-alpha reduced, cannot form estrogen upon interaction with the aromatase enzyme yet still shows a very high affinity for it. Because it takes up so much of the aromatase enzyme, yet is refrained from actually using it by its structural make-up, it reduces the amount of estrogen formed1 from other steroids as well because there are less aromatase enzymes to be used by those compounds to form estrogen with. This made stacking with slightly aromatizing compounds such as boldenone much more bearable as it eliminated even the slight aromatisation of such substances. So for bodybuilders the use of drostanolone is not only in limiting estrogens in question, but also eliminating possible estrogen formation from other steroids used during this time for increased anabolic or anti-catabolic activity. This because, especially for larger bodybuilders, drostanolone alone does not suffice to retain the maximum amount of weight.
The reduction of estrogenic capacity of course made drostanolone ill-suited for use as a mass-builder. In fact the gains on it were quite limited. Someone seeking to gain muscle mass rarely, if ever, resorted to a DHT compound. But coupled to its extreme androgenic qualities it lead to the perfect compound to retain strength and mass while shedding body-fat. The absence of estrogen refrained it from increasing water or salt retention, and there is evidence that the androgenic component may expedite the fat loss process2. The exact mechanims by which a rise in androgens stimulates fat loss is not known, but it is theorized that it may be due to catecholamine-induced (epinephrine, norepinephrine and dopamine) lipolysis, caused by the androgen increasing the number of beta-adrenergic receptors (the primary triggers for fat mobilization) on the membrane surface of fat cells. It is my understanding however that the noted decrease in body-fat is mainly due to a slight increase in lean mass and a stagnation of the body-fat, automatically resulting in a loss of body-fat in percentages, after recalibration.
This would also highly promote its use for power- and weightlifters as they compete in weight classes. Drostanolone can promote the increased strength while keeping body-fat the same or even lowering it. Allowing for an increased perfomance without the risk of being cast into a higher and more difficult weight class.
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i'll find out for sure when i run it with ot,eq starting july 5th.
Güclü_oglan
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something with high androgenicity
digimon7068
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nishnish said:
ABSolutely! There is no substitute for diet and hard work. I'm really glad someone mentioned anadrol. . .I got friggin chisled last spring while using it and when I tell people that, they tell me to go piss up a rope.
bicepts101
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winstrol
FknKnuckleHd
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Finaplix
DieselGunz
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I have read some reports Var has some fat burning effects.
But I agree diet and cardio is key.
But I agree diet and cardio is key.
Güclü_oglan
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yup but all androgens increases the fat burningDieselGunz said:
sprinter86
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Clen / Winstrol with a good diet and lots of cardio
Stainless_Steel
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Tren!!
Güclü_oglan
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test and tren are great
MeatheadJD
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I menat what would preserve muscle
while low cal dieting
while low cal dieting
Ulter said:
bicepts101
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Ulter said:
but they no doubt effects the rate we burn fat someway...it may be indirectly but it happens. ive seen info on the higher androgenic steroids do this in some way
monkey arms
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The standard canned answer here is "Diet is the key" which is true, However, I can keep my cals/training exactly the same, and when I use Tren, I get shredded. BTW I don't do cardio, but then again I'm happy at a healthy 8%.
will b huge
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Ulter said:
Mr. ULTER,
Lets say that Diet, diet, diet, cardio are all in check........THEN, steroids obviously will put on more muscle correct???? And then, what happens when you add muscle to your body (whether its 10, 20, 30 pounds)????? YOUR BODY WILL BE BURNING MANY MORE CALORIES AND SPEEDING UP METABOLISM AS YOUR MUSCLE MASS INCREASED......---If you diet properly, train hard, add cardio, you can easily make this extra boost in calorie burning beneficial in FAT LOSS!!!!!!!!!!
Steroids can easily help anyone add lean muscle and burn fat, IF, IF, IF they DIET Properly and TRAIN HARD w/cardio!!!!!!
