I friend of mine left the company I work for to start a company. He makes some of the best. It's called Dynamic Force and it's a liquid Fat Burner and a Carb. suppresant. After the test's that were done, the Liquidform was found to be much more potent and is aborbed by your body much faster and better then pills. 10 drops in your favorite juice and your head is about to explode and iches from your BP going up. The Red Wings were switching over to it from that Orange stuff, I forget the name. I don't have the web stie or his number but if your interested PM me.