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Best Kickstart to a cycle from experience??

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[1] Dbol
[2] Beastdrol
[3] Dieselbolan
[4] Katanadrol
[5] Tren-Xtreme
[6] Test P
Not gonna do abombs or anything else not listed.

What have you kickstarted with and what were the effects??

Next cycle:
1-12 Test C 400mg wk
7-12 Winny 50mg ed

Thanks bros!
 
I'm runnign a longish cycle now...an 18 weeker eq 600 test e 300 cycle and have kickstarted with turinabol @ 90mgs ed - split 50/40 and the strength gains are sensational. No bloat to top it and lovely pumps...painful at times but in the enjoyable sense...
 
[1] Dbol
[2] Beastdrol
[3] Dieselbolan
[4] Katanadrol
[5] Tren-Xtreme
[6] Test P
Not gonna do abombs or anything else not listed.

What have you kickstarted with and what were the effects??

Next cycle:
1-12 Test C 400mg wk
7-12 Winny 50mg ed

Thanks bros!

2 or 3 im leaning more towards 3
 
I have ALWAYS had good results with Dbol...if you aren't worried about hair or side effects then definitely go with Anadrol:artist:
 
I'd definately go with the dbol because you know it will work. I always kickstart with it but will probably try the Diesel next just because of the price and availability.
 
I'm leaning towards the Beastdrol or Dieselbolan or maybe Turinabol if I can get it. From what I've seen Dbol gains are pretty much water and not easy to maintain if at all.

What kickstart would be the most keepable? Could I stack 2 of the orals or is that overkill?
 
tbol is hands down my favorite oral. nice strength and size with no bloat! what more could u want? dbol is the only one on your list i have taken and imo it sucks, gave me moonface like no other. the bloat was horrible, i looked almost asian on that shit, strong as fuck tho. i prefer the compromise tbol provides. you still get damn strong and add size but it's more quality than water.

edit: if you cant get the tabs tho then don't bother cause i've heard some things about the caps not being up to snuff. that's really a universal truth if you ask me. who knows what they fill those caps with.
 
tbol is hands down my favorite oral. nice strength and size with no bloat! what more could u want? dbol is the only one on your list i have taken and imo it sucks, gave me moonface like no other. the bloat was horrible, i looked almost asian on that shit, strong as fuck tho. i prefer the compromise tbol provides. you still get damn strong and add size but it's more quality than water.

edit: if you cant get the tabs tho then don't bother cause i've heard some things about the caps not being up to snuff. that's really a universal truth if you ask me. who knows what they fill those caps with.

Ok I've always wanted to try tbol anyways due to good strength gains and little water retention which is nice!
So this would be my proposed cycle:
1-12 400mg wk, Pharm Grade
1-5 Tbol (How many milligram's?)
7-14 Var 40-60mg ed (Pharm Grade Ox baby!)
Adex on hand too. Going for solid lean gains and lose bodyfat, don't even care if I gain weight. I'm already 215 right now. Can't wait to get into the Var, grade A shit!
What you think?
 
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it has been compared to both var and dbol. it has great strength gains like dbol but virtually no water retention like var. to me tbol is very versatile. what i mean is, if you're cutting, tbol will give you strength and some size (more than var) without sacrificing the look you're after with a bloated look. on the other hand if your bulking tbol will give you the same thing but just amplified because of your diet. it's pretty consistent in the way it performs. this has been my experience with this compound. good gains in size, weight, strength, hardness but not as good as either var or dbol in certain areas, sort of a jack of all trades but less harmful than both imo. var fucks up cholesterol and dbol bloats and is hard on the liver, to the best of my knowledge tbol is not as hard on cholesterol or the liver as either of these.

as for your cycle it looks fine to me. for the tbol i would start out 40-50mg/ed but only run it for 4 weeks because it seems to stop working as well around 28 days into it. save the rest for a pre pct run b/c it's one of those approved compounds for that. i did 20mg/ed tbol and 25mg/ed proviron in the 10 days after my last shot and before i started pct. i gained an additional 3lbs in that period of time and experienced the best pct i've ever had.

p.s. you may want to look into a liver sup if you're running two orals so close together.
 
it has been compared to both var and dbol. it has great strength gains like dbol but virtually no water retention like var. to me tbol is very versatile. what i mean is, if you're cutting, tbol will give you strength and some size (more than var) without sacrificing the look you're after with a bloated look. on the other hand if your bulking tbol will give you the same thing but just amplified because of your diet. it's pretty consistent in the way it performs. this has been my experience with this compound. good gains in size, weight, strength, hardness but not as good as either var or dbol in certain areas, sort of a jack of all trades but less harmful than both imo. var fucks up cholesterol and dbol bloats and is hard on the liver, to the best of my knowledge tbol is not as hard on cholesterol or the liver as either of these.

as for your cycle it looks fine to me. for the tbol i would start out 40-50mg/ed but only run it for 4 weeks because it seems to stop working as well around 28 days into it. save the rest for a pre pct run b/c it's one of those approved compounds for that. i did 20mg/ed tbol and 25mg/ed proviron in the 10 days after my last shot and before i started pct. i gained an additional 3lbs in that period of time and experienced the best pct i've ever had.

p.s. you may want to look into a liver sup if you're running two orals so close together.

Thanks Wolfman that all makes alot of sense. You explained tbol very well and I got what I was lookin for. What mg's do the tbol pills come in?
And what do you other bro's think is a good tbol dosage per day from your experience? Gonna do it first 4 weeks of cycle! :garza:
 
[1] Dbol
[2] Beastdrol
[3] Dieselbolan
[4] Katanadrol
[5] Tren-Xtreme
[6] Test P
Not gonna do abombs or anything else not listed.

What have you kickstarted with and what were the effects??

Next cycle:
1-12 Test C 400mg wk
7-12 Winny 50mg ed

Thanks bros!
I just kicked off the cycle I am with deisilbolan and it was pretty damn good.
 
I just kicked off the cycle I am with deisilbolan and it was pretty damn good.

I have been wanting to try that. What do you think about tbol? Looks sexy.

By the way I enjoyed the tren-tfo. Very nice strength gains, vascularity, and more endurance. Just what the doctor ordered!
 
Can anyone else chime in on turinabol? I'm gonna place an order this weekend and I need to knw how much I need to get. Thanks bros!
 
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