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im not making fun of the fact that he got hurt, but the fact that he goes into this big drama about it and his feelings attached to him and all his customers, the guy is so self centered....
 
variation said:
I support Nelson and Jubies comments 100% here, don't give us your sob story, can't take a little critisism SwoleCat and the 'brothahood' hahaha that's so lame..

i'll probably get flamed by swolecats brotherhood now :X

You're a moron...I wasn't gonna get involved in this...but this statement was retarded...especially after what SC just posted.

My opinion...diet is a key ingredient in any training program, it helps to have someone with experience help you with it. If I remember correctly, SC guarantees results...how can you go wrong. If you feel that you can figure out the best diet possible on your own...do it. If you think you could benefit from someone like SC, who has helped people with this before...contact him.

The bottom line is, he offers a service, if you don't want to take advantage...don't. But don't say his service is shit just because you don't think it's necessary for you. There are alot of services out there that I don't need, but they all have their own place.

Why bash someone for trying to help out and make a little cash for his time?
 
Bulldog_10 said:


You're a moron...I wasn't gonna get involved in this...but this statement was retarded...especially after what SC just posted.

My opinion...diet is a key ingredient in any training program, it helps to have someone with experience help you with it. If I remember correctly, SC guarantees results...how can you go wrong. If you feel that you can figure out the best diet possible on your own...do it. If you think you could benefit from someone like SC, who has helped people with this before...contact him.

The bottom line is, he offers a service, if you don't want to take advantage...don't. But don't say his service is shit just because you don't think it's necessary for you. There are alot of services out there that I don't need, but they all have their own place.

Why bash someone for trying to help out and make a little cash for his time?

Dead on bro...
 
Bulldog_10 said:


You're a moron...I wasn't gonna get involved in this...but this statement was retarded...especially after what SC just posted.

care to go into more detail on this?


My opinion...diet is a key ingredient in any training program, it helps to have someone with experience help you with it. If I remember correctly, SC guarantees results...how can you go wrong. If you feel that you can figure out the best diet possible on your own...do it. If you think you could benefit from someone like SC, who has helped people with this before...contact him.

I agree that diet is a key ingredient in any training program... but I don't think you need to pay for one.. mostly, it's common sense..
... and big deal that he gaurantees results... there will be a result for any action in the whole wide world... weather they be good or bad... and of course he would gaurantee good results... if he gauranteed bad ones... why would anyone do his program... I don't think I can figure out the best diet possible for me.. and I don't think anyone else can either.. to get very specific.. but I think I can figure out decent ones, since I haven't run into any problems yet, and I don't think I could benefit from someone like SC or SC himself...



The bottom line is, he offers a service, if you don't want to take advantage...don't. But don't say his service is shit just because you don't think it's necessary for you. There are alot of services out there that I don't need, but they all have their own place.
Why bash someone for trying to help out and make a little cash for his time?

I don't think it's an advantage... simply because I have no reason to believe so, and I'd like you to show me where I said his service is shit, I've acknowledged before that his program probably works.. I just think it's unescaserry. I've also acknowledged that he loves himself starting threads like 'SWOLECAT MAKES t-MAG' and telling big dramatic stories like he just did...
 
variation said:


care to go into more detail on this?



I agree that diet is a key ingredient in any training program... but I don't think you need to pay for one.. mostly, it's common sense..
... and big deal that he gaurantees results... there will be a result for any action in the whole wide world... weather they be good or bad... and of course he would gaurantee good results... if he gauranteed bad ones... why would anyone do his program... I don't think I can figure out the best diet possible for me.. and I don't think anyone else can either.. to get very specific.. but I think I can figure out decent ones, since I haven't run into any problems yet, and I don't think I could benefit from someone like SC or SC himself...




I don't think it's an advantage... simply because I have no reason to believe so, and I'd like you to show me where I said his service is shit, I've acknowledged before that his program probably works.. I just think it's unescaserry. I've also acknowledged that he loves himself starting threads like 'SWOLECAT MAKES t-MAG' and telling big dramatic stories like he just did...

Well if it's common sense to you...then you obviously don't need his services...but i'm sure there are people out there that can use other people's help. Like I said, if you don't feel it's necessary...don't use it. If you would like the advantage, use it. And yes, I call it an advantage...because having his input is better than not having it. Regardless of whether you use it or not, just having it available is better than nothing.

And if you don't like SC's posts, and that's why you're bashing his service, then I don't even know why I'm discussing this with you. If you have something personal against him, then obviously no matter how good his service is, you'll find problems with it.
 
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Variation, you are the most cold hearted son of a bitch I've ever known. I know your other board name, you're not fooling anyone.
As far as Mr. X defending me, hell, he laughs at you and realizes I don't need any defense.......with an offense like mine, my defense doesn't even have to play. U can call me self centered all you want, I give a shit. If being successful, loving my job, having a great body, and helping others get the same thing, then I qualify all day long, and I'll keep prospering as I've been doing. At least I can keep your shining hatred busy and give you something to do.

By the way, who the fuck are you? Exactly.......you're a nobody.....just a name.......no pics, no history, no future.

You can call it a sob story, I call it reality. If I want to post about my injury and misfortune this a.m. after my cardio session letting all my friends and supporters know, I will. You poking fun at it and the "brotherhood" comment just exemplifies how much you are NOT one of us.

You may comment on anything you want to in this thread or others, just as I do. Just realize that people can plainly see who the asshole is here, and it looks like no one will ever take that crown from you.

Glad you think I'm self-centered, as of right now, yes I am.........all the attention is focused on my and my re-hab. I just hope you never have to experience the physical and mental anguish I did this a.m., and am still experiencing right now.

You are one hell of a suck ass human being to say those words to me in front of thousands after someone has suffered such an injury/setback. Thank God there aren't a lot of people like you, there can't be, you're just too damn fucked for words.

I sure hope God has a better scorecard for you than I do.

~SC~XXL~2K3~
 
I can't believe what outright assholes some of you guys are.

Swole offers a service, and I cannot recall ONE example of anyone saying they are not or were not happy with it.

Someone posts a good recommendation, saying how much this guy has helped.

Then a bunch of dicks bash, for no reason at all. Then of course Nelson has to chime in, becase God Forbid anyone else would have any of the "truth" and be able to help, Nelson can't stand anyone else getting respect and attention, so he has to of coyurse come in a say how SC et al is more of the "propoganda" fed to you all, and that (of course ....) the only way to hear "The Truth" is to ..... hm.,...... hm ........ I wonder where we can hear the Truth - maybe Nelon's e-book?!?

Then SC, despite all the BS, stays quite positive about it, and even admits that he just had a semi-major injury happen.

Now yeah, we may all disagree at times, but I think none of us would really wish an ill will on anyone here. We may disagree, but for the most part when anyone suffers a real trauna, injury, or tragedy, we put aside the differences and wish thd dude well.

Now for Swole to tell us about his injury and all, and for dudes to make statements as if he is doing this to create drama and sympathy, is utter hateful bullshit. Its guys like you that give this sport a bad name.

To say that Swole is self-centered is bullshit. You dont know the dude. He is extremely helpful and respectful to people and to his customer especially.

Variation, you are a punk. I dont care how big you are, or how ripped. Inside, as a person, as a man, you are a punk-ass little boy.
 
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I'm sure SC's diet works, as it should. I just don't understand why in the age of information people are too lazy to do some research and figure out a good diet for themselves.

Would you pay somebody to stick a needle in your ass? Of course not, because you can figure it out for yourself for free. People do hours of research on AAS, but are too busy to do half the homework on creating an effective diet.

I have always maintained that diet is the single most determining factor regarding success in BB. If some people are simply not up to the task of figuring out a diet on their own they probably should have someone else do it for them.
 
jubei said:
I'm sure SC's diet works, as it should. I just don't understand why in the age of information people are too lazy to do some research and figure out a good diet for themselves.

Would you pay somebody to stick a needle in your ass? Of course not, because you can figure it out for yourself for free. People do hours of research on AAS, but are too busy to do half the homework on creating an effective diet.

Why bother?

Why pay someone for help?

There is a lot of great medical info out there, so why bother going to a doctor?

A person can find anatomy charts, X-acto knives, alcohol, and ether, so why would anyone go to a Surgeon to get an operation?

Why go to a mechanic? After all - can't you just go to Sears and get some tools, then go buy a Chilton's manual?

Why bother?

Expertise. Experience. Support.

Someone who has been there and done it.

The combined knowledge of having been there along-side dozens if not hundreds of people so that their combined experiences can be used as a background for helping YOU reach YOUR goals.

Even WITH all of the info out there on the net about diet, steroids, etc, do you sometimes get the idea that there are certain "tricks' and things that the real pros know, but you don't? Or maybe you just have not found them yet?

Or maybe you HAVE seen such info, but it is buried amongst a sea of BS,

... of posers who really know little,

... or kids re-posting stuff they "saw and read somewhere"

... Or dudes who are fat as hell as they sit in front of their monitors, but yet are spewing info about how to "get ripped"

... Or kids so skinny that their computer’s CD tray knocks them over when it ejects, telling you how to "get huge".

How do you begin to wade through all of that?

What if you could work with some who HAS done it,. Who had helped OTHERs do it,. Maybe you don’t wish to wade through all the ressreach, posers, misionformation, and bullshit, but just want to get A PROGRAM THAT WORKS and support from someone who HAD DONE IT and who has HELPED OTHERS DO IT.

Maybe, for some people, that’s worth it.

If not for you, fine.

After all, many people say to us “why bother lifting weights and eating the way you do - what’s the point?"

Well, almost ALL of us in This Game look at those people and say "well, my priorities, my choices, are different, and you just don’t GET IT. That’s fine.".

Well, some people want to have their own personal expert assist them. Its their choice. And some, others, just don’t get it.

To each his own.
 
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