Best "Cutting" Cycle

[Apczone]

I've heard no steroid really cuts you but I'm talking about a cycle that will give me more definition on my muscles.

I've been on a test e cycle for the last 4 weeks. I'm seeing good results as far as mass goes but I'm starting to get too big for my 5'6" frame. Plus my belly isn't really going anywhere (I know that's a diet issue). I'm just always hungry and feel I need to keep my muscles fueled. Should I cut back on my calories and just ride out the rest of this cycle and keep gaining mass... Then cut calories after with a new cycle? Or cut calories now and go with lighter weights for more reps (if that's still true, seems to change everytime I turn on my computer).

But my ultimate question is..

What would be the best cycle for ripping up my body? Like I said I'm rather short and have very broad shoulders and this test e is making me a lot bigger

Thanks for the help!

 

[Nelson Montana]

I've heard no steroid really cuts you but I'm talking about a cycle that will give me more definition on my muscles.

I've been on a test e cycle for the last 4 weeks. I'm seeing good results as far as mass goes but I'm starting to get too big for my 5'6" frame. Plus my belly isn't really going anywhere (I know that's a diet issue). I'm just always hungry and feel I need to keep my muscles fueled. Should I cut back on my calories and just ride out the rest of this cycle and keep gaining mass... Then cut calories after with a new cycle? Or cut calories now and go with lighter weights for more reps (if that's still true, seems to change everytime I turn on my computer).

But my ultimate question is..

What would be the best cycle for ripping up my body? Like I said I'm rather short and have very broad shoulders and this test e is making me a lot bigger

Thanks for the help!

Tren and mast. But if you're fat, you need to eat less. Now. Simple.

 

[stevesmi]

what are your full stats?

you need to go into cycle with a body fat under 15% to leave you room to put on mass without worrying about body fat.

DIET DIET DIET and then cardio. get your body fat DOWN. then worry about putting on mass cleanly. THATS the correct way to do it if you want to bodybuild. now if you want to look like a marshmallow and just train for strength (which i see a lot at the gym from especially the 50's crowd) then keep doing what you are doing. but if you want to look good and be ripped like you are describing then you need to change your strategy

 

[Judo Tom]

i love a low dose test cycle for cutting.. just makes me feel good and does a good job of preserving muscle.

I think way to many people look for tren/mast/etc to work wonders.. imo if you are not under 8% you will not notice much of a difference in cutting cycles

 

[Apczone]

I'm 5'6" 195 lbs (sounds much fatter than I actually am) cliche I know but true lol.

32 inch waist.
Never really measured my muscles. I'll do that tonight after work.

I attached a before and after picture. These are about 4-5 weeks apart. The picture on the right was taken Friday.

I have one of those weight watcher scales (girl friends actually) that tells you your body fat and it said mine was around 18%

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ I give you tremendous amount of respect and props posting up pics but bro I'm sorry but you have no business juicing right now. your diet is definately not on par and it doesn't look like you work out very often.

i can help you with both. lets hear a typical days diet for you (including what you drink) and lets hear your workout strategy and see where we can improve

you won't get any results on juice until you fix your flaws.

I would peg your body fat more in the mid 20's.. definately not 18.

 

[Apczone]

^^^ I give you tremendous amount of respect and props posting up pics but bro I'm sorry but you have no business juicing right now. your diet is definately not on par and it doesn't look like you work out very often.

i can help you with both. lets hear a typical days diet for you (including what you drink) and lets hear your workout strategy and see where we can improve

you won't get any results on juice until you fix your flaws.

I would peg your body fat more in the mid 20's.. definately not 18.

Drink mostly water all day, over 100 ounces each day. And usually an energy drink in the morning. Monster rehab, around 20 calories. Protein shake for breakfast around 7, protein bar around 10, lunch at noonish usually leftover chicken from the night before. Protein shake around 330 and a hydroxycut ignition stick. 4pm lift until around 5-530. Dinner at 6, 95% of the time chicken with some rice or potatoes and corn. Then a fiber bar or something like that around 8-830 then bed around 1030.

I work out 4-5 days a week. Minimum 4 every week.

Monday - Chest
Tuesday - Biceps
Wednesday - Triceps
Thursday - Shoulders
Friday - Light Chest or fill in day if we miss something during the week. The guy I work out with has a busy schedule with 2 kids. I'd say 3 out of 4 weeks we are getting all 5 days.

We do 4 exercises a day with 3 sets of each. I was doing 3 sets x 8-10 reps. I felt like I wasn't seeing the results I wanted (cutting) so lately I've been doing 3 sets x 12-15 reps, but I just started that last week.

 

[stevesmi]

right off the bat i see a lot of shakes and bars and not enough real food.. those shakes and bars typically have a lot of sugar and soy in them which goes straight to the gut. swap those out for real food. a meal like chicken/turkey with brown rice and veggies is a much better choice.. drink a shake once a day and use good quality whey, NTBM has that.. always check ingredients and make sure what you are buying isn't just sugar and soy mixed with water. don't depend on things in a box or package for food. it just doesn't work.. you need macro nutrients.

also where are your fruits? veggies? potatoes should be sweet and not white. makes a huge difference.. i would stop the corn, its not a nutritious veggie.. go with dark green veggies, cannot go wrong there.

as far as your workouts you need to clean them up.. you don't need to dedicate an entire day to triceps or shoulders. where are your leg workouts? legs are important for many reasons. i would go to a 3 day split of push/pull/legs.. its simple and it will be a tremendous upgrade to what you are doing now.. below in my signature i have a link to a workout i put together and use myself. check it out.

and finally until you get your body fat down I would definately get in 2X per week of strong cardio either a brisk walk or a jog. once you get that under control you can go back to primarily lifting.

as far as working out with a partner this can really hold you back, most lifters lift on their own.. you can go to the gym with your friend and help each other with spots and stuff.. but i wouldn't work out together and do the same thing.. i have friends at the gym who we help each other out with spots and motivation. but we don't do the same workouts as we don't have the same goals or bodies.

let me know if you have further questions

 

[Mh48500]

Excellent, excellent advice from Steve. I know sometimes people are hesitant to ask questions because of the negative responses, instead of constructive criticism. And those posts above are incredible examples of knowledgeable, concise answers to a very legit question.

I have come to rely heavily on this forum not only for the expert advice but also for the friendly envirinment!

 

[Apczone]

Excellent, excellent advice from Steve. I know sometimes people are hesitant to ask questions because of the negative responses, instead of constructive criticism. And those posts above are incredible examples of knowledgeable, concise answers to a very legit question.

I have come to rely heavily on this forum not only for the expert advice but also for the friendly envirinment!

I second that. I really appreciate the advise.