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Benoit Autopsy Report

heatherrae said:
Aren't there some steroids that don't show up on drug tests?

Can't testosterone cause roid rage?

I don't know. I'm just asking. The medical examiner seemed awfully conclusive to say that 100% there was "no roid rage."

Seems like it would be hard to know.

Does sedating the child before killing him sound like the action of someone who is raging?
 
jd_uk said:
lol @ Benoit not being on steroids. He was built like a tank and looked like he wanted to tear his opponent apart with his teeth.

Also, it seems common sense to me that 'roid rage' is just a term for aggression as a result of high testosterone levels. Testosterone is what causes men to be more agressive than women, the more testosterone you have, the more aggressive you are liekly to be. Therefore it's very possible that Benoit's higher than normal test levels played 'a part' in the killings.

It has caused me to decapitate many, many unfortunate victims...... So fucking stupid. I had a worse temper when I was clean for many years.
 
The guy should of stuck to Xanax. The most laid back drug in the world.

Although, when you mix it with Alcohol crazy shit tends to happen.

XANAX(alone) = the drug of the gods.
 
BBC said:
The guy should of stuck to Xanax. The most laid back drug in the world.

Although, when you mix it with Alcohol crazy shit tends to happen.

XANAX(alone) = the drug of the gods.


for this reason right here is why i will never touch xanax ever again. when i worked in the strip club someone gave me a xanax and i said sure why not, lets see what the hype is all about. well after you take a full bar of xanax you tend to not worry about a damn thing. so when people then offer you a shot you dont care that you shouldnt drink while on xanies. anyway long story short, i ended up at a denny's by myself, i have no idea how i got there since my car was still at the club. all i know is my wife said i called her from denny's and she had to come get me and not only that, she had to practically carry me out.

i do not remember shit from that night. my manager said i was on my phone outside in back of the club and all of a sudden i fell backwards and slammed my head on the ground and my PPC-6700 pocket pc cell phone smashed on the ground. i barely remember taking the xanie.
 
biteme said:
It has caused me to decapitate many, many unfortunate victims...... So fucking stupid. I had a worse temper when I was clean for many years.
The studies seem to confirm that men with low testosterone are more aggressive before receiving HRT than after their testosterone levels have been restored. Not to mention suffering from a number of other things like depression.
 
The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on angry behavior in healthy eugonadal men--a clinical research center study
R Tricker, R Casaburi, TW Storer, B Clevenger, N Berman, A Shirazi and S Bhasin
Division of Endocrinology, Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science, Los Angeles, California 90059, USA.

Anecdotal reports of "roid rage" and violent crimes by androgenic steroid users have brought attention to the relationship between anabolic steroid use and angry outbursts. However, testosterone effects on human aggression remain controversial. Previous studies have been criticized because of the low androgen doses, lack of placebo control or blinding, and inclusion of competitive athletes and those with preexisting psychopathology. To overcome these pitfalls, we used a double-blind, placebo-controlled design, excluded competitive athletes and those with psychiatric disorders, and used 600 mg testosterone enanthate (TE)/week. Forty-three eugonadal men, 19-40 yr, were randomized to 1 of 4 groups: Group I, placebo, no exercise; Group II, TE, no exercise; Group III, placebo, exercise; Group IV, TE plus exercise. Exercise consisted of thrice weekly strength training sessions. The Multi-Dimensional Anger Inventory (MAI), which includes 5 different dimensions of anger (inward anger, outward anger, anger arousal, hostile outlook, and anger eliciting situations), and a Mood Inventory (MI), which includes items related to mood and behavior, were administered to subjects before, during, and after the 10 week intervention. The subject's significant other (spouse, live-in partner, or parent) also answered the same questions about the subject's mood and behavior (Observer Mood Inventory, OMI). No differences were observed between exercising and nonexercising and between placebo and TE treated subjects for any of the 5 subdomains of MAI. Overall there were no significant changes in MI or OMI during the treatment period in any group. Conclusion: Supraphysiological doses of testosterone, when administered to normal men in a controlled setting, do not increase angry behavior. These data do not exclude the possibility that still higher doses of multiple steroids might provoke angry behavior in men with preexisting psychopathology.
 
redsamurai said:
steroids alone "CAN NEVER AND WILL NEVER" cause someone to off their whole family............in the way that benoit did it, he'd been thinkin about it for some time........is it possible that some elevated testosterone level finally made him snap and pull the trigger on his plan?? maybe.........but it was a matter of time anyway. How many psycho's have we seen in this country off their whole family? happens every couple of years...........how about the bitch that locked her kids in the car and then rolled it off into a lake...........roid rage?? :rolleyes:

You know, from what I have been told that juicers who claim roid rage after use were major assholes before they ever touched a drug, sorta akin to the whole anabolics make women ugly arguement - those women were hit with the ugly stick long before they ever hit the weights, the added muscle only made them less attractive.... sorta like the added muscle only elevates the aforementioned jack-ass to the status of GAPING ASSHOLE.

..just my humble observations.

Any guy who is a MAJOR asshole was a MAJOR asshole before he touched juice only now he is a MAJOR asshole with more muscle.

Any gal who is BUTTFUCKING UGLY after juicing was damned near beat to death with the ugly stick long before her first injection.
 
I love how Fox news claims his test levels were 10 times the normal amount. I thought his bloodwork showed like 205 ng/dl????

Randy Orten and Kurt Angle were also getting GH and Test from the same clinic???
 
gotmilk said:
I love how Fox news claims his test levels were 10 times the normal amount. I thought his bloodwork showed like 205 ng/dl????

Randy Orten and Kurt Angle were also getting gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - and Test from the same clinic???

It was his urine that was tested.
From that the testing comany said it was 5x the normal amount.
He also said many factors could contribute to that.
Lets face it. Pain killers and wine is not a good combo.
Juice has nothing to do with it.
 
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