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beginner: wanting to do cheap/safe cycle

You so new to this, why not go safer old school route? Just take 5mg of d-bol naps with each of three main meals over 10 weeks. You will get stronger with very little risk. Also see if you can deal with some typical aas side events with little real damage.


my opinion decent start.
 
ya I was looking into this. 15 mg/day for 10 weeks? I was thinking of starting at 5 mg and moving up to 10mg at the most for 6 weeks. I guess I could experiment with the dosages and see which works best for my body. I would keep Nolvadex on hand just in case and would definitely take it when done.
 
If you are having trouble recovering (and "sore" all the time) then you might want to check your diet and training.
Read above again.

I respect all the posts made in here, BUT don't just take the ones you WANT to hear and ignore the rest.

IMHO, dbol is not the answer for you. You want strength and cut. If you're not going to go inject, then I would recommend tbol or var for you. BUT I still think you have to examine the other aspects (diet training) first if you get sore like you say you do. Either your training is not preparing your body well, or your diet is not supplying the appropriate nutrients for recovery. Without diet and training, AAS isn't going to perform well for you.

Additionally, you will WANT to have a much better PCT than just nolva. PCT is very important, unless you don't mind a strong chance of losing everything you gained, blowing back up due to estrogen, and feeling like crap because your test levels are low.

Which comes full circle for you - it's not cheap.
 
Read above again.

I respect all the posts made in here, BUT don't just take the ones you WANT to hear and ignore the rest.

IMHO, dbol is not the answer for you. You want strength and cut. If you're not going to go inject, then I would recommend tbol or var for you. BUT I still think you have to examine the other aspects (diet training) first if you get sore like you say you do. Either your training is not preparing your body well, or your diet is not supplying the appropriate nutrients for recovery. Without diet and training, AAS isn't going to perform well for you.

Additionally, you will WANT to have a much better PCT than just nolva. PCT is very important, unless you don't mind a strong chance of losing everything you gained, blowing back up due to estrogen, and feeling like crap because your test levels are low.

Which comes full circle for you - it's not cheap.

BAM!
this.
 
Read above again.

I respect all the posts made in here, BUT don't just take the ones you WANT to hear and ignore the rest.

IMHO, dbol is not the answer for you. You want strength and cut. If you're not going to go inject, then I would recommend tbol or var for you. BUT I still think you have to examine the other aspects (diet training) first if you get sore like you say you do. Either your training is not preparing your body well, or your diet is not supplying the appropriate nutrients for recovery. Without diet and training, AAS isn't going to perform well for you.

Additionally, you will WANT to have a much better PCT than just nolva. PCT is very important, unless you don't mind a strong chance of losing everything you gained, blowing back up due to estrogen, and feeling like crap because your test levels are low.

Which comes full circle for you - it's not cheap.

^^^This post is money in the bank...

~EZ
 
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