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Sassy69
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Excellent advice all around - its a hard thing to say to a 21 yr old w/ the highest natural test production of his life underway, to say - sure shut off your natural test production for some exogenous sources, go for it ... but it is a done deal., you've made gains, got some experience. Now don't look for "Hey guys what should my next cycle be."
Instead take what you've learned and start to focus on what you can do in the gym & more specifically w/ the diet. I think I read somewhere that Quad's bulkers are more like 6000 calories... I had a decent 20 yrs of lifting under my belt and did my first comeptition at age 35 -- it was still the diet that first got my to my strongest lifts ever and then cut me up NATURALLY to below 8% bf. Its the diet that will be your best friend & your best tool going forward. The thing to learn here is that now that you've past the point about being impatient to run a cycle to not be the skinny guy anymore, use that as your new foundation and learn how to tweak it to get lean so your next cycle, when appropriate, will have a solid base to build on and will work better w/ lower bodyfat. A more well-planned diet will get you a more productive bulker and it wont' be all about the cycle. You can lose your gains from a cycle if your lifestyle doesn't support it. You can't always rely on the drugs to get you what you want. The accumulated effect will come back to bite you in the ass at some point whether you expect it or not.
To quad's rant - you were exactly the guy he was talking about, but you've gotten gains, its done & over, you've learned the basics of cycling (& I hope to God, the basics of PCT...). So here's where you have the chance to now focus on & learn the basics of excellent diet & training so your next cycle isn't one that is more aggressive w/ wilder compounds at higher doses, but rather a more measured cycle that has the support of diet geared specifically for your goals and training that is tight & even more perfected to leverage the whole program for your goals. Now you begin to cycle intelligently instead of aggressively.
Instead take what you've learned and start to focus on what you can do in the gym & more specifically w/ the diet. I think I read somewhere that Quad's bulkers are more like 6000 calories... I had a decent 20 yrs of lifting under my belt and did my first comeptition at age 35 -- it was still the diet that first got my to my strongest lifts ever and then cut me up NATURALLY to below 8% bf. Its the diet that will be your best friend & your best tool going forward. The thing to learn here is that now that you've past the point about being impatient to run a cycle to not be the skinny guy anymore, use that as your new foundation and learn how to tweak it to get lean so your next cycle, when appropriate, will have a solid base to build on and will work better w/ lower bodyfat. A more well-planned diet will get you a more productive bulker and it wont' be all about the cycle. You can lose your gains from a cycle if your lifestyle doesn't support it. You can't always rely on the drugs to get you what you want. The accumulated effect will come back to bite you in the ass at some point whether you expect it or not.
To quad's rant - you were exactly the guy he was talking about, but you've gotten gains, its done & over, you've learned the basics of cycling (& I hope to God, the basics of PCT...). So here's where you have the chance to now focus on & learn the basics of excellent diet & training so your next cycle isn't one that is more aggressive w/ wilder compounds at higher doses, but rather a more measured cycle that has the support of diet geared specifically for your goals and training that is tight & even more perfected to leverage the whole program for your goals. Now you begin to cycle intelligently instead of aggressively.
