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BB.com member kills himself on webcam while "friends" cheer him on

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I dunno, it's not gory or anything. Starts out with him laying on the bed and ends with him laying on the bed. Just looks like he's sleeping. One video I wish I hadn't watched was that Russian soldier on that hill. They shoot him in the stomach to weaken him, then a few seconds later a guy pulls out a knife and beheads him. And if the visual wasn't bad enough, you can hear him choking on his own blood as he tries to breath. I don't suggest seeking it out.

Is that the one where the other guy is holding his head down with his boot? If so, I haven't seen the part where they shot him in the stomach first.
 
KB, I miss you so much. I waited so long to have you and I thank God for the 19 plus years I had with you. As of next month you would've no longer been a teenager. You would've entered a new millinium. I guess you entered it earlier and a different one. I love you so much my son, my only son. I hope you find the peace that you could not find here. As much as I miss you, I can go on knowing that you have been released of the private hell that you were living in.
Mental illness truly is a silent killer, especially when it is not easily recognized.
With all my (broken) heart.
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I'm really glad I haven't bought any supps of bb.com in years. I don't think it's an internet forum's place to fix his life, but to egg him on is unconscionable...I can't imagine this happening here, just sayin...

The fact that they literally watched the kid die for their entertainment makes me want to bash their heads in with a dumbbell too.

Because of your join date that is a legitimate sentiment. Were your joind date before 06 but after 02 then I would say that you must have spent more of your time on every other board EXCEPT chat here on elite. Those were some really REALLY dark times for elitefitness. Heck, I posted up about a trip I was finally going to make to the emergency room because I had symptoms that mimicked a blot clot in my lung. (Thank goodness that was NOT the case.) I had 99% of the chat board laughing at me saying THEY WISHED DEATH ON ME. In those years you would not believe the unbelievably nasty hate-filled posts, Knotes, etc that were directed towards me... You can't begin to know how many times I thought to take my life because of what was going on in my real world, but then to have it echoed online?!?... shit, there were entire message boards on bbing sites on the web that were dedicated to spewing the most vile hatred, you can't begin to imagine. To this day, I refuse to go to other sites mainly because of this reason.

I am very proud and happy to say that all that has changed on elite - that WE truly are head and shoulders ABOVE the rest because WE don't tolerate that sort of bullshit inhumanity here. Disrespect? A situation like this doesn't BEGIN to touch disrespect - it is INHUMANTIY pure and simple.

There are still tiny shreds of it though. It took a minute for our community here on elite to allow ourselves to become infiltrated by these lower forms of life - those who glean pleasure from the suffering of others. And once we let those cockroaches in, they multiplied like wildfire. It took YEARS to get rid of all of them, heck, sadly because they were amongst us, some of their filth rubbed off so it took a long time for us to completely erradicate them and fix our heads as to what is proper and acceptable and what IS NOT.

Having said this I still say that it is NOT *the internet's responisibility* that this unfortunate circumstance took place. That guy was tortured and truth be told regardless of what the site had done, or who reached out he may have taken his life regardless. Often times people that talk about suicide are actually reaching out for help. They don't WANT to die, however, that isn't always the case. That is why ANYTIME someone talks about such things it should be treated as if you accept that person WANTS to go through with it and do whatever you can to reach out or at the very least allow that person to vent. Heck, isn't that what many of us do when we are down/confused/angry?

Don't we all VENT?!?!

This hits home to me in a way that mmost of you are incapable of understanding as I have 4 children that are out of my reach. They are trapped in an abusive home and they really believe that they can never escape. Two of them are being medicated with anti-depressants, psychotropics and other meds INSTEAD of the people who are SUPPOSED to be protecting them saying, "Well hell, if the kids *suddenly became suicidal* maybe they should be removed from THAT home... instead of giving them more and more drugs that they don't need in the first place INCREASING the chance that they migh commit suicide!?!?"

DUH....

I was very upset about this yesterday and began a thread seeking some support. The first two pages or so were a bloodbath - not as bad as it would have been 2+ years ago - true. But I had people PMing me and calling me asking me to delete the thread and to stop posting about because it was clear that there were still too much negativity on elite for me to open my heart like that. But the good news was the thread continued and turned into something VERY positive for me. I was BEGGING for help and support from my community and though it was a tiny bit slow - IT CAME.

I am talking way too damned much but as you can see, I have so many emotions about so many aspects of this story. I want so much for everyone here to better understand (if they haven't already) that most of us are REAL PEOPLE and though we may not all e-like one another we should always TRY to conduct ourselves in a fashion that if someone that is close to us were to observe, they wouldn't shake their heads and cluck their tongues and say, "Damn, I am ashamed at my (son, brother, wife, cousin, best friend, etc ... fill in the blank) 's e-behavior. He/She isn't like that in REAL life."

How bout we make strides daily to be our authentic selves with one another?
 
If you go on the misc chat over there right now all they are worried about is that section of the boards being shut down. They are pathetic and have no remorse; they only care about how their lives are affected. Most of them are young and immature and the misc board is like a giant clique. Some are saying its freedom of speech and it won't be shut down but that is bullshit, there is going to be a media firestorm around this and it's bad pub for bb.com.
 
It's disgusting the way they were toward him. His poor family. I can't imagine watching my daughter kill herself, and you know his parents watched it. Closure I guess, but I'm sure they'll end up reading the thread and see those pieces of shit cheer their son on to kill himself for their amusement. My heart goes out to them.
 
Alright, well, another day is upon us. This is headlined worldwide, from Yahoo in France to CNN, Fox News and MANY other sites. As far as the level of maturity over there, there is NO question that the people in C&C here are far more mature than those over there. There are many reasons for that here. 1) Majority of the people here are 21+ and have full-time jobs, 2) We may disagree with people, but we will respect them, 3) Fortunately, the C&C hasn't grown tenfold as BB.com, thus, bringing less and less idiots and immature people to this site. It's just a fact, when you grow that quickly, there will be more and more trolls that we must deal with. On a given day, I have no idea how many people/accts the elite mods delete here. Over there, JUST based on the misc, there are over 100 (+/-) people a day that are banned. It could be less or more, it's very darn close. Lastly, the main difference between the two sites is that people here tend to be friendlier, and a generally tighter-knit crew, which is VERY important.
 
Alright, well, another day is upon us. This is headlined worldwide, from Yahoo in France to CNN, Fox News and MANY other sites. As far as the level of maturity over there, there is NO question that the people in C&C here are far more mature than those over there. There are many reasons for that here. 1) Majority of the people here are 21+ and have full-time jobs, 2) We may disagree with people, but we will respect them, 3) Fortunately, the C&C hasn't grown tenfold as BB.com, thus, bringing less and less idiots and immature people to this site. It's just a fact, when you grow that quickly, there will be more and more trolls that we must deal with. On a given day, I have no idea how many people/accts the elite mods delete here. Over there, JUST based on the misc, there are over 100 (+/-) people a day that are banned. It could be less or more, it's very darn close. Lastly, the main difference between the two sites is that people here tend to be friendlier, and a generally tighter-knit crew, which is VERY important.

My brother, I don't know about numbers but when elite was way smaller, when there were like what 6 boards maybe and like a dozen moderators (they were ALL elite moderators at that time) there was NO BULLSHIT on chat. I mean, yea it could be fierce if you were a fuckstick but even then there was respect and a modicum of decorum at ALL TIMES. People would flame "intelligently" and not get into any vicious personal attacks. Anyone who tried got dumped IMMEDIATELY - no waffling - no majority vote - just BANNED for being a doucheknuckle.

IMHO the smaller a board is, the easier it is to set and maintain a standard.

If it was allowed for a bunch of ignorant monkeys with internet access (no offense to Puddles LOL) to fling their own e-poo at one another even ONE TIME, let alone for months/years on end then sadly it is very hard to clean that up.

I'd never been to that board as I'd made a personal policy of not going to other boards because of the nastiness that I personally observed. There was a time when I was a moderator on a couple boards but can anyone with a job and other adult responsibilities moderate even ONE board all the time, let alone moderate several SOME of the time? But then the internet exploded and too much hatred was the order of the day, totally turned me off.... but obviously it drew others in. Which is a scary statement IMHO.

I feel badly for the administrators of the board and I do still feel that they in no way bear responsibility for the tragic actions of this young man. However, I do feel that it is a SERIOUS lesson to every administrator of ALL forums. If you live by the sword (or even tolerate others wielding that sword in your "back yard", then you (or your neighbor/guest) will surely die by it.

If a board can't affect the lives of people in a positive fashion then I am thinking they need to perhaps rethink why it is they are there in the first place?
 
Because of your join date that is a legitimate sentiment. Were your joind date before 06 but after 02 then I would say that you must have spent more of your time on every other board EXCEPT chat here on elite. Those were some really REALLY dark times for elitefitness. Heck, I posted up about a trip I was finally going to make to the emergency room because I had symptoms that mimicked a blot clot in my lung. (Thank goodness that was NOT the case.) I had 99% of the chat board laughing at me saying THEY WISHED DEATH ON ME. In those years you would not believe the unbelievably nasty hate-filled posts, Knotes, etc that were directed towards me... You can't begin to know how many times I thought to take my life because of what was going on in my real world, but then to have it echoed online?!?... shit, there were entire message boards on bbing sites on the web that were dedicated to spewing the most vile hatred, you can't begin to imagine. To this day, I refuse to go to other sites mainly because of this reason.

I am very proud and happy to say that all that has changed on elite - that WE truly are head and shoulders ABOVE the rest because WE don't tolerate that sort of bullshit inhumanity here. Disrespect? A situation like this doesn't BEGIN to touch disrespect - it is INHUMANTIY pure and simple.

There are still tiny shreds of it though. It took a minute for our community here on elite to allow ourselves to become infiltrated by these lower forms of life - those who glean pleasure from the suffering of others. And once we let those cockroaches in, they multiplied like wildfire. It took YEARS to get rid of all of them, heck, sadly because they were amongst us, some of their filth rubbed off so it took a long time for us to completely erradicate them and fix our heads as to what is proper and acceptable and what IS NOT.

Having said this I still say that it is NOT *the internet's responisibility* that this unfortunate circumstance took place. That guy was tortured and truth be told regardless of what the site had done, or who reached out he may have taken his life regardless. Often times people that talk about suicide are actually reaching out for help. They don't WANT to die, however, that isn't always the case. That is why ANYTIME someone talks about such things it should be treated as if you accept that person WANTS to go through with it and do whatever you can to reach out or at the very least allow that person to vent. Heck, isn't that what many of us do when we are down/confused/angry?

Don't we all VENT?!?!

This hits home to me in a way that mmost of you are incapable of understanding as I have 4 children that are out of my reach. They are trapped in an abusive home and they really believe that they can never escape. Two of them are being medicated with anti-depressants, psychotropics and other meds INSTEAD of the people who are SUPPOSED to be protecting them saying, "Well hell, if the kids *suddenly became suicidal* maybe they should be removed from THAT home... instead of giving them more and more drugs that they don't need in the first place INCREASING the chance that they migh commit suicide!?!?"

DUH....

I was very upset about this yesterday and began a thread seeking some support. The first two pages or so were a bloodbath - not as bad as it would have been 2+ years ago - true. But I had people PMing me and calling me asking me to delete the thread and to stop posting about because it was clear that there were still too much negativity on elite for me to open my heart like that. But the good news was the thread continued and turned into something VERY positive for me. I was BEGGING for help and support from my community and though it was a tiny bit slow - IT CAME.

I am talking way too damned much but as you can see, I have so many emotions about so many aspects of this story. I want so much for everyone here to better understand (if they haven't already) that most of us are REAL PEOPLE and though we may not all e-like one another we should always TRY to conduct ourselves in a fashion that if someone that is close to us were to observe, they wouldn't shake their heads and cluck their tongues and say, "Damn, I am ashamed at my (son, brother, wife, cousin, best friend, etc ... fill in the blank) 's e-behavior. He/She isn't like that in REAL life."

How bout we make strides daily to be our authentic selves with one another?

I'm sorry to hear you were treated like that.

The fact that since the summer of 07' I haven't seen this type of behavior speaks volumes about the admins/mods/and perhaps most importantly the members of elite. (Or maybe my selective awareness?..lol, hopefully not.)
 
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