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BB.com member kills himself on webcam while "friends" cheer him on

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I'm sorry to hear you were treated like that.

The fact that since the summer of 07' I haven't seen this type of behavior speaks volumes about the admins/mods/and perhaps most importantly the members of elite. (Or maybe my selective awareness?..lol, hopefully not.)

Not selective awareness... it is has EVERYTHING to do with the bolded portion of your statement.

And though to this day when I am reminded about some of the hate that was wantonly directed towards me over the past several years it still singes a tiny bit. But in a way I am glad it happened to me and not somebody else, as I don't think many others in my situation could have handled it and even grown stronger from it. The poor fellow who ended his life being the starkest example. I mean, what could ANYONE have possibly done to warrant that type of response from ANYONE else?... let alone an internet forum full of e-strangers?

Read my signature my brother... it was a great part of digger's legacy to me. He ALWAYS helped and protected me the best his could when the cockroaches on elite went for my throat. He helped me to see that NONE of us is without *a past* (even if that past is in our own head) but that EVERY ONE OF US HAS A FUTURE.

Sad story for the young man and his family...

The only reason I've not done myself in (yea, I tried but the Old Grump saved me) is that saying... "A permanent solution to a temporary situation." That and the fact that as long as I am living and building a positive life my children will have a chance... if I take myself out of their future PERMANENTLY then they will have none.

I am just glad that elite has made so many POSITIVE CHANGES and rejected this type of poo-flinging monkey mentality (sorry again Puddles LOL) as acceptable behavior before such a tragedy happened here. As long as I am contributing here, I will make it MY BUSINESS to insure that this type of a mentality will ALWAYS BE UNACCEPTABLE.
 
Not selective awareness... it is has EVERYTHING to do with the bolded portion of your statement.

And though to this day when I am reminded about some of the hate that was wantonly directed towards me over the past several years it still singes a tiny bit. But in a way I am glad it happened to me and not somebody else, as I don't think many others in my situation could have handled it and even grown stronger from it. The poor fellow who ended his life being the starkest example. I mean, what could ANYONE have possibly done to warrant that type of response from ANYONE else?... let alone an internet forum full of e-strangers?

Read my signature my brother... it was a great part of digger's legacy to me. He ALWAYS helped and protected me the best his could when the cockroaches on elite went for my throat. He helped me to see that NONE of us is without *a past* (even if that past is in our own head) but that ALL OF US HAS A FUTURE.

Sad story... the only reason I've not done myself in (yea, I tried but the Old Grump saved me) is that saying... "A permanent solution to a temporary situation." That and the fact that as long as I am living and building a positive life my children will have a chance... if I take myself out of their future PERMANENTLY then they will have none.

I am just glad that elite has made so many POSITIVE CHANGES and rejected this type of poo-flinging monkey mentality (sorry again Puddles LOL) as acceptable behavior before such a tragedy happened here. As long as I am contributing here, I will make it MY BUSINESS to insure that this type of a mentality will ALWAYS BE UNACCEPTABLE.

This whole thing makes me think about the way I treated healother. I mean, he never seemed suicidal, just had bad luck with girls. I always thought he was an alter, but in the future I'll be less of a douche even if i think the person may be fake.
 
It's not just a lesson to admin, mods, and mentors, but it is a lesson to all. I don't (and hope) nobody ever takes me too seriously (which you don't).

On the same side, if you are seriously down there are quite a few people here who can help. That's why this place is quite better. I have received numerous PM's from people here who are willing to help me when I was down. And I was quite in a down mood. I didn't call them, as I didn't want to put my bullsheot on them. Some days we all get down, some people don't rebound without help. This is the case here. Remember we are all here for a reason. Chat is just a place to hang out in. And the other area's is where the business is.

I have an idea brewing now, so I gonna think on it a bit....

This is sad. To the jackasses who egged it to happen, I hope you one day see that this is such a waste as the guy was probably a decent fellow who was misguided or misunderstood. Being almost been there, I can see things different than some. As you look at it as a cop out, maybe look at the other side of it. You'll be surprised at what you find. No, I am not talking about the final note. Look at his whole life..... somewhere something went drastically wrong.
 
Very sad, the whole situation, but seriously, you can only cry wolf so many times before no one takes you seriously. I feel bad for his parents. If they find joose in the blood tox report we are all in for a rough ride, not just the bb.com folks. Regardless of their irrational and juvenille behavior, this affects all of us.

Shame :(
 
Because of your join date that is a legitimate sentiment. Were your joind date before 06 but after 02 then I would say that you must have spent more of your time on every other board EXCEPT chat here on elite. Those were some really REALLY dark times for elitefitness. Heck, I posted up about a trip I was finally going to make to the emergency room because I had symptoms that mimicked a blot clot in my lung. (Thank goodness that was NOT the case.) I had 99% of the chat board laughing at me saying THEY WISHED DEATH ON ME. In those years you would not believe the unbelievably nasty hate-filled posts, Knotes, etc that were directed towards me... You can't begin to know how many times I thought to take my life because of what was going on in my real world, but then to have it echoed online?!?... shit, there were entire message boards on bbing sites on the web that were dedicated to spewing the most vile hatred, you can't begin to imagine. To this day, I refuse to go to other sites mainly because of this reason.

I am very proud and happy to say that all that has changed on elite - that WE truly are head and shoulders ABOVE the rest because WE don't tolerate that sort of bullshit inhumanity here. Disrespect? A situation like this doesn't BEGIN to touch disrespect - it is INHUMANTIY pure and simple.

There are still tiny shreds of it though. It took a minute for our community here on elite to allow ourselves to become infiltrated by these lower forms of life - those who glean pleasure from the suffering of others. And once we let those cockroaches in, they multiplied like wildfire. It took YEARS to get rid of all of them, heck, sadly because they were amongst us, some of their filth rubbed off so it took a long time for us to completely erradicate them and fix our heads as to what is proper and acceptable and what IS NOT.

Having said this I still say that it is NOT *the internet's responisibility* that this unfortunate circumstance took place. That guy was tortured and truth be told regardless of what the site had done, or who reached out he may have taken his life regardless. Often times people that talk about suicide are actually reaching out for help. They don't WANT to die, however, that isn't always the case. That is why ANYTIME someone talks about such things it should be treated as if you accept that person WANTS to go through with it and do whatever you can to reach out or at the very least allow that person to vent. Heck, isn't that what many of us do when we are down/confused/angry?

Don't we all VENT?!?!

This hits home to me in a way that mmost of you are incapable of understanding as I have 4 children that are out of my reach. They are trapped in an abusive home and they really believe that they can never escape. Two of them are being medicated with anti-depressants, psychotropics and other meds INSTEAD of the people who are SUPPOSED to be protecting them saying, "Well hell, if the kids *suddenly became suicidal* maybe they should be removed from THAT home... instead of giving them more and more drugs that they don't need in the first place INCREASING the chance that they migh commit suicide!?!?"

DUH....

I was very upset about this yesterday and began a thread seeking some support. The first two pages or so were a bloodbath - not as bad as it would have been 2+ years ago - true. But I had people PMing me and calling me asking me to delete the thread and to stop posting about because it was clear that there were still too much negativity on elite for me to open my heart like that. But the good news was the thread continued and turned into something VERY positive for me. I was BEGGING for help and support from my community and though it was a tiny bit slow - IT CAME.

I am talking way too damned much but as you can see, I have so many emotions about so many aspects of this story. I want so much for everyone here to better understand (if they haven't already) that most of us are REAL PEOPLE and though we may not all e-like one another we should always TRY to conduct ourselves in a fashion that if someone that is close to us were to observe, they wouldn't shake their heads and cluck their tongues and say, "Damn, I am ashamed at my (son, brother, wife, cousin, best friend, etc ... fill in the blank) 's e-behavior. He/She isn't like that in REAL life."

How bout we make strides daily to be our authentic selves with one another?

I'm sorry to hear you were treated like that.

You read all that?
 
Has anyone asked what the bad things he did were yet?
 
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