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KAYNE
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YEAH, THE MLB UNION IS PRETTY STRONG. HOWEVER, I THINK THEY AGREED TO TESTING IN THE UPCOMING YEAR. I'M NOT SURE THOUGH.
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leancuisine
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they say that a natural bodybuilder can build about 6-8 pounds of muscle a year (after the first initial year of training).
so since 1986, 16 years have passed which means that he could have packed over 96 pounds of muscle naturally.
sure, he would be damn over his max genetical limit but maybe his genetics are so good that he can pack that extra muscle naturally.
so since 1986, 16 years have passed which means that he could have packed over 96 pounds of muscle naturally.
sure, he would be damn over his max genetical limit but maybe his genetics are so good that he can pack that extra muscle naturally.
leancuisine said:
Who is they? They are wrong. Probably trying to sell something. Once you reach you genetic limitations you will not continue to add fat free mass at that rate without drugs. Using that logic, I can get off drugs and gain 320 lbs in the next 40 years. Bullshit.
The idiots who run the baseball commission have it all wrong.
The thing is this...
A guy who used to fly out a lot can get it over the wall with juice. That's a fact. But juice doesn't really help the pitchers. That's why the game is becoming incresingly more boring. It's almost like basketball, the scoring is so "back and forth." A team can behind by 6 runs and make it up the next inning. It's a 4 hour home run derby.
They have to make some changes. Push the fence back. Make them 10 ft higher. That would lead to more triples--which in many ways are more exciting than a home run.
If baseball thinks they're going to control drug use with testing, they're fools.
And just to put things in perspective; when Babe Ruth with 60, that was more than any TEAM hit collectively in the season. That's comparable to someone hitting about 300 home runs today.
The thing is this...
A guy who used to fly out a lot can get it over the wall with juice. That's a fact. But juice doesn't really help the pitchers. That's why the game is becoming incresingly more boring. It's almost like basketball, the scoring is so "back and forth." A team can behind by 6 runs and make it up the next inning. It's a 4 hour home run derby.
They have to make some changes. Push the fence back. Make them 10 ft higher. That would lead to more triples--which in many ways are more exciting than a home run.
If baseball thinks they're going to control drug use with testing, they're fools.
And just to put things in perspective; when Babe Ruth with 60, that was more than any TEAM hit collectively in the season. That's comparable to someone hitting about 300 home runs today.
bigshoulders
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I think it obvious that all the big hitters have. But look at Brady Anderson, he was a buck nothing and then bulked up and hit something like 52 homeruns.
Nelson, I think pitcher do use AAS, so they can recover from certain injuries faster. That would be interseting if fences were moved back and taller, i think the stats would level off and look more like those players of yester year. On a side note Look at Jerry Rice, he blows out his ACL (a career ending injury 20 years ago, yes surgery has improved since then) and then comes back to play that same year in the playoffs.
All Pro athletes take drugs to improve their performance, it just may not be AAS.
Like dial tone said archers take drugs to calm there nerves. If drugs are out there to improve someones performance then those athletes are taking it.
Great insight from everyone!
Nelson, I think pitcher do use AAS, so they can recover from certain injuries faster. That would be interseting if fences were moved back and taller, i think the stats would level off and look more like those players of yester year. On a side note Look at Jerry Rice, he blows out his ACL (a career ending injury 20 years ago, yes surgery has improved since then) and then comes back to play that same year in the playoffs.
All Pro athletes take drugs to improve their performance, it just may not be AAS.
Like dial tone said archers take drugs to calm there nerves. If drugs are out there to improve someones performance then those athletes are taking it.
Great insight from everyone!
chronic2371
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Drug use exists in all sports. Not saying every athlete uses but the majority of them do. And the reason some sports don't test and others have testing that is easily deceived is the fans. People want to go to the ballpark and see Sammy hit a 500 foot homerun or see a massive collision between a LB and RB on the football field. Bigger, stronger, quicker athletes put more fans in the stands. It all comes down to the bottom line. What is in the best financial interests of the sport.
And as far as baseball players hitting more and longer homeruns, drug use and better training do play a large part (I don't think Babe Ruth had that great of a conditioning program). It is also because the pitchers are just not that good. The strike zone is getting smaller all the time and pitchers are afraid to throw inside. If the umps would call the inside strike the hitters couldn't sit and wait for that outside fastball. But it won't happen. The majority of fans like that home run derby atmosphere.
And as far as baseball players hitting more and longer homeruns, drug use and better training do play a large part (I don't think Babe Ruth had that great of a conditioning program). It is also because the pitchers are just not that good. The strike zone is getting smaller all the time and pitchers are afraid to throw inside. If the umps would call the inside strike the hitters couldn't sit and wait for that outside fastball. But it won't happen. The majority of fans like that home run derby atmosphere.
chronic2371
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Drug use exists in all sports. Not saying every athlete uses but the majority of them do. And the reason some sports don't test and others have testing that is easily deceived is the fans. People want to go to the ballpark and see Sammy hit a 500 foot homerun or see a massive collision between a LB and RB on the football field. Bigger, stronger, quicker athletes put more fans in the stands. It all comes down to the bottom line. What is in the best financial interests of the sport.
And as far as baseball players hitting more and longer homeruns, drug use and better training do play a large part (I don't think Babe Ruth had that great of a conditioning program). It is also because the pitchers are just not that good. The strike zone is getting smaller all the time and pitchers are afraid to throw inside. If the umps would call the inside strike the hitters couldn't sit and wait for that outside fastball. But it won't happen. The majority of fans like that home run derby atmosphere.
And as far as baseball players hitting more and longer homeruns, drug use and better training do play a large part (I don't think Babe Ruth had that great of a conditioning program). It is also because the pitchers are just not that good. The strike zone is getting smaller all the time and pitchers are afraid to throw inside. If the umps would call the inside strike the hitters couldn't sit and wait for that outside fastball. But it won't happen. The majority of fans like that home run derby atmosphere.
blingbling211
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In Bond's early years, he was 180-185 pounds. Now he is pretty jacked. That doesen't mean definitively that he's juiced, maybe he has, maybe he hasn't. At any rate, he's got sum very good genes and one helluva self-esteem.
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