Balls stilllll shrunk... Help??

[bastiaan89]

I don't think waiting for 18 months would be a good idea with shrunken testes.
I have no personal experience on this but I've been around bb forums and read up a lot on steroid use etc.
Pretty sure I've seen this problem come around and pretty sure hcg was the way to go.
Post cycle as well, it should bring them back.
As for too high dosage, that should be easily prevented by knowing what dose to run in what time frame.
So read up and let us know.

 

[stevesmi]

I have a PCT in my signature that you should follow to a tee.

your nuts will start coming back, deca sticks around a while preventing the body from recognizing its out. but you need to run a pct to get things going.

i suggest kickstarting your PCT with HCG, HMG, a small amount of clomid, and natty supps like unleashed. read the link in my signature, its right there for everyone to see.

NEVER go into pct with shrunken nuts. deca and test together will turn your nuts to raisins everytime.

 

[All In a Year]

I have a PCT in my signature that you should follow to a tee.

your nuts will start coming back, deca sticks around a while preventing the body from recognizing its out. but you need to run a pct to get things going.

i suggest kickstarting your PCT with HCG, HMG, a small amount of clomid, and natty supps like unleashed. read the link in my signature, its right there for everyone to see.

NEVER go into pct with shrunken nuts. deca and test together will turn your nuts to raisins everytime.

I ran pct 2 weeks after last test injection, and I ran test for 2 weeks longer than deca.

I ran the following pct for 4 weeks:

Post cycle
Unleashed
Clomid 50mg ed
HCGenerate
Formastanzol

I am now 2 weeks after said pct, and have been running bridge since.

I will try getting some HCG and hmg and run it.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ okay but if you read the pct in my signature you will see that you need to KICKSTART your pct first. you need HCG and HMG. people bitch and whine that it costs too much, but when their nuts turn to raisins they come back and say 'steve you were right' .. not saying you are like that but telling you my experience. people think i am trying to sell products, i am not, i want people to recover. seriously does anyone believe i profit when you buy HMG or hcg? gosh some people give me too much credit and live in a cabin in naiveland!!

starting your pct without a kickstart is like pushing a car up a hill, its very very very hard. your PCT was fine. but you put too much pressure on the body when you start a pct with raisin nuts.

you want my advice from someone who learned his lesson from deca and then put together a pct that FINALLY worked for him? then read the link in my sig. start from scratch and do everything over. run the hcg WITH HCGENERATE and 2 hits of HMG which attacks your LH naturally. then run your PCT all over again. you will then see a difference.. and stretch things out more. pct after deca should be 6 weeks, not 4 weeks.. there are small amounts of deca still in your system weeks after your last injection, its a stubborn drug and thats how it was designed. so you need to stretch out your pct

then come back after all that and tell everyone how Steve was right.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Sooo.. Im about 6 weeks after cycle and my balls are still shrunk. I ran test 500mg for 10weeks and deca 300mg for 8 weeks... Started HCGenerate when I noticed my balls shrinking around week 5 and continued it all the way through 4 weeks of pct. Also ran post cycle/unleashed and formastanzol and clomid at 50mg per day for pct. Recovered fine but my balls are still really small. Any suggestions on what I can do? I'm currently on bridge and loving it.. About to add in some sustain alpha and see if it helps. Any help/advice is very much appreciated it!!! Thanks

HCGen is best throughout the cycle. If suppression is real bad you'll need a couple of hits of real HCGen or HMG. Clomid can backfire. Deca is a killer and takes a long time from which to recover. Double up on the UNLEASHED and give it time.

 

[All In a Year]

^^^ okay but if you read the pct in my signature you will see that you need to KICKSTART your pct first. you need HCG and HMG. people bitch and whine that it costs too much, but when their nuts turn to raisins they come back and say 'steve you were right' .. not saying you are like that but telling you my experience. people think i am trying to sell products, i am not, i want people to recover. seriously does anyone believe i profit when you buy HMG or hcg? gosh some people give me too much credit and live in a cabin in naiveland!!

starting your pct without a kickstart is like pushing a car up a hill, its very very very hard. your PCT was fine. but you put too much pressure on the body when you start a pct with raisin nuts.

you want my advice from someone who learned his lesson from deca and then put together a pct that FINALLY worked for him? then read the link in my sig. start from scratch and do everything over. run the hcg WITH HCGENERATE and 2 hits of HMG which attacks your LH naturally. then run your PCT all over again. you will then see a difference.. and stretch things out more. pct after deca should be 6 weeks, not 4 weeks.. there are small amounts of deca still in your system weeks after your last injection, its a stubborn drug and thats how it was designed. so you need to stretch out your pct

then come back after all that and tell everyone how Steve was right.

Okay thanks for the advice, I will find some hcg and hmg. I counted my weeks wrong... So yeah I only waited 4 weeks after to start pct. I didn't know I should have waited 6. But I'll never run deca again. Too harsh

 

[All In a Year]

HCGen is best throughout the cycle. If suppression is real bad you'll need a couple of hits of real HCGen or HMG. Clomid can backfire. Deca is a killer and takes a long time from which to recover. Double up on the UNLEASHED and give it time.

Thanks Nelson. I did run a double dose of unleashed and post cycle during pct.. But I will hop back on a double dose of unleashed for now until I can get my hands on some real hcg and hmg

 

[stevesmi]

Okay thanks for the advice, I will find some hcg and hmg. And pct was started 6 weeks after deca. I stopped deca at week 8, stopped test at week 10, then waited 2 weeks after that and then started pct.

you did nothing wrong with your PCT. what you screwed up on was not kickstarting things like i said above. while the deca is clearing out is the time to be on hcg, hcgenerate and a couple hits of HMG.

HMG if anyone hasn't tried it should.. this stuff works very well in conjunction with hcg.

it can be hard to find though.

 

[All In a Year]

you did nothing wrong with your PCT. what you screwed up on was not kickstarting things like i said above. while the deca is clearing out is the time to be on hcg, hcgenerate and a couple hits of HMG.

HMG if anyone hasn't tried it should.. this stuff works very well in conjunction with hcg.

it can be hard to find though.

Yeah I can't say I've come across hmg before. I'll do some research on it as I'm not very familiar with it.