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balls still shrinking...wtf?

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so i am at the end of my 3rd week of test e 300mg/wk and mast 300mg/wk. i started with hcg 250iu 2x/wk in the 2nd week (as i am prone to ball shrinkage). sure enough, the boys started shrinking at the end of the 2nd week. i upped the hcg to 500iu 2x/wk for this last week to see if it made any difference - but nothing yet. i am using pregnyl hcg from rx...this stuff's legit right?? and if so, what's going on with the nuts?
 
so i am at the end of my 3rd week of test e 300mg/wk and mast 300mg/wk. i started with hcg 250iu 2x/wk in the 2nd week (as i am prone to ball shrinkage). sure enough, the boys started shrinking at the end of the 2nd week. i upped the hcg to 500iu 2x/wk for this last week to see if it made any difference - but nothing yet. i am using pregnyl hcg from rx...this stuff's legit right?? and if so, what's going on with the nuts?

Yes its good bro. Its pharm grade good shit. Now start injects of 250ius every other day.
 
thanks needto...i'll give the 250iu every other day a try. i guess everyone responds a bit different to any/all compounds. this is my first time using hcg while on cycle, so i'll just have to figure out what dose is right for me as i'd like to keep the "boys" full(er) this time while on...and hopefully it will make pct/recovery easier.
 
so i am at the end of my 3rd week of test e 300mg/wk and mast 300mg/wk. i started with hcg 250iu 2x/wk in the 2nd week (as i am prone to ball shrinkage). sure enough, the boys started shrinking at the end of the 2nd week. i upped the hcg to 500iu 2x/wk for this last week to see if it made any difference - but nothing yet. i am using pregnyl hcg from rx...this stuff's legit right?? and if so, what's going on with the nuts?
I am surprised to see that at that dosage you are experiencing such extreme testicular atrophy. Drostanolone is a potent antiestrogen and being a DHT will not convert to estrogens in the slightest. It is possible your drostanolone is a short chain ester of test, this is a relatively common practice I witnessed as an organic chemists working in the underground steroid industry prior to leaving in disgust. It seems there are more side effects from steroids for those who sell it, the most serious one being greed. I remember a pube being found in a bottle of *******200 and trying to find out who was jerking off in the clean room. The scary thing is we found the person. Some UG labs are bang on and even impressed me with their level of cleanliness and honestly in dosing but others are very very dirty and even more so, dishonest.
Another side effect of steroids of course is testicular shutdown. The body senses all of the excess testosterone in your system and decides to stop producing its own in a negative feedback loop involving leutenizing hormone. This causes your testicles to shrink and your sperm count to decrease significantly. The use of clomiphine citrate (more commonly known as clomid) can prevent this from happening. Clomid stimulates your body to keep producing its own testosterone. That way, testicular shutdown never comes about. Even though testicular shutdown is completely reversible once steroid use has ceased, it is a good idea to prevent it from ever happening. Clomid doesn't increase the size of your batches and no, pornstars don't take it to make facials more extreme.....gross. This is just a gym locker room myth that evolved like all others to something completely foreign to the truth. Once you stop using steroids, your body will start producing its own testosterone again. But this can take up to a month to happen. During that month, you will have significantly reduced amounts of testosterone in you system. Thus, you will most likely lose much of your gains once you stop using testosterone. To prevent testicular shutdown, I suggest using clomiphine citrate (AKA Clomid). I recommend 25mg of clomid per day per 500mg of testosterone you use per week. Since clomid most often comes in 50mg tablets, that would equate to one tablet every other day. If you are using 1000mg of testosterone, that equates to 1 tablet a day. Clomid has been shown extremely safe in many laboratory tests and medical research and as a physician it is what I would recommend to a patient experiencing this problem. The HCG is also a good idea and you are better off with small daily inj. than weekly huge ones.
There is a canadian company who has developed a steroid testing kit involving cellulose paper chromatography, it is 100% legal and utilizes a talc transparant overlay derived from individual steroid r values that can be put over the chromatogram and comparisons can be made. For steroids too close in r values there is a melting point kit that can be done using a small pot of oil or large test tube and a torch. It is so simple I wish I had thought of it, they are waiting for patent pending status and then it will be introduced to one and only one steroid forum, so they say, they will be the first to get the first production, it will be cheap as it is being considered a payback to the society that supported them. I made my recommendation for elitefitness and the cheif at this company is a member here, he was recently banned from three other forums for exposing the epithiostanol ps's for what they are and BB for its extreme toxicity. I think elite will soon see that they are offered this amazing kit and none of you will have to further worry about your masteron being prop again.
If anyone wants to know some basic identification techniques for steroids feel free to PM me and I will email you a document.
 
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