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what do they reveal?
 
depends how much the employer wants to know, most go for criminal, civil and financials (desperate people do desperate things)
 
stilleto said:
hmm.

I have a feeling i'm not going to get this job.
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I had this conversation the other day with a high level HR type, you should be fine - it is well known in the HR circles that pre-screening is a poor predictor of a bad employee...

Most who do wrong pass background checks with flying colors.
 
stilleto said:
bah, not really, but there's one thing that doesn't look so good on paper.
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Do tell! Inquiring minds (me) wants to know.
 
MightyMouse69 said:
I had this conversation the other day with a high level HR type, you should be fine - it is well known in the HR circles that pre-screening is a poor predictor of a bad employee...

Most who do wrong pass background checks with flying colors.
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well... we'll see.

She's going to be in for a surprise when she does my background check.
 
stilleto said:
well... we'll see.

She's going to be in for a surprise when she does my background check.
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if it is bankruptcy, that is common and typically no problem...unless they want to dig, civil litigation won't come up
 
it's not worth sending 20 k messages. I can say it here.

My identity was changed when I was younger. A check on my SS# won't bring my name up and doesn't show that I've ever been enrolled in any school.
 
MightyMouse69 said:
depends how much the employer wants to know, most go for criminal, civil and financials (desperate people do desperate things)
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They did all that for my current job, I was so scared lol.
 
When I was active practicing law I could get virtually everything with a few clicks of the button: past civil suits, criminal, traffic, bankruptcy, divorce, child support, credit report etc. In some instances I would see juvenile records that should have been sealed. Some shit is just laying out there in the open waiting to be read by someone.
 
stilleto said:
it's not worth sending 20 k messages. I can say it here.

My identity was changed when I was younger. A check on my SS# won't bring my name up and doesn't show that I've ever been enrolled in any school.
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Wow! Why is that? Were you supposed to be in hiding from someone when you were young or what?
 
stilleto said:
it's not worth sending 20 k messages. I can say it here.

My identity was changed when I was younger. A check on my SS# won't bring my name up and doesn't show that I've ever been enrolled in any school.
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I think at some point, everyone wishes they have that chance. Yuo were just lucky :)
 
stilleto said:
it's not worth sending 20 k messages. I can say it here.

My identity was changed when I was younger. A check on my SS# won't bring my name up and doesn't show that I've ever been enrolled in any school.
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thats all? i thought u were talking about our love spawn, sorry
 
stilleto said:
bah, not really, but there's one thing that doesn't look so good on paper.
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Mostly criminal stuff. So yes they will find out about you killing a man via frankenfoot and probably the attempted child killing via your vehicle.

They might even find your bewb pics.

Look at it this way, if I can pass a 10 year faa/fbi background check, you should be fine.
 
I used to work at a background screening company and the majority of the people's jobs consisted of verifying information. By verifying information I mean: calling former employers and schools. Another department was criminal and credit (where I worked). We would send your SSN number in and it would pull up the addresses of every place that you lived. We would then check with the city or county for each address to see if you had any criminal history. I don't know how they checked credit (it was all done on the computer). Hope that helps.
 
mountain muscle said:
Mostly criminal stuff. So yes they will find out about you killing a man via frankenfoot and probably the attempted child killing via your vehicle.

They might even find your bewb pics.

Look at it this way, if I can pass a 10 year faa/fbi background check, you should be fine.
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lol...how subtle
 
tracemhunter said:
I used to work at a background screening company and the majority of the people's jobs consisted of verifying information. By verifying information I mean: calling former employers and schools. Another department was criminal and credit (where I worked). We would send your SSN number in and it would pull up the addresses of every place that you lived. We would then check with the city or county for each address to see if you had any criminal history. I don't know how they checked credit (it was all done on the computer). Hope that helps.
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ah, ok, thanks.

If they go back 10 years, I'm in. :)
 
stilleto said:
what do they reveal?
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depends on who is doing it.. and what agency they use..

a simple one can check wants and warrents in the counties you life in.. the next step would include a credit check..

then it can include phone interviews with former employers and or neighbors..

next step is a field agent will physically visit your past home neighborhoods and interview people..

If it is military ts clearance, they will send for an interview with school teachers and what not..

but hey.. what did ya expect..
 
Army Vet said:
When I was active practicing law I could get virtually everything with a few clicks of the button: past civil suits, criminal, traffic, bankruptcy, divorce, child support, credit report etc. In some instances I would see juvenile records that should have been sealed. Some shit is just laying out there in the open waiting to be read by someone.
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LoL I dated a girl who worked for the court system... She did that to me and blasted me with a bunch of shit one night, nothing major but still.
 
what's laughable is barack couldn't pass an FBI background check to do secret dept of defense work
 
if the job you are trying to get - can throw you away cuz of a background check - it's not a job you want. You clearly on an expendable level then.

There are no 'background checks' when it comes to hiring in sports, lawyers, entertainment, music, executives, personal trainers, modelling, photography, surgeons, etc. Anything that requires mad skills, which triumph over a 12 y/o shoplifting or bad credit or unpaid speeding ticket charge.

But for corporate monkey jobs - where you just want to setup another barrier to filter out people - you have to go through that.

I've been thru a couple BG checks. Last one was the army. I don't care. But unless it's triple murder - i know i would've been hired regardless of what was in it. What I brought to the table was paramount over anything else.

r
 
Razorguns said:
if the job you are trying to get - can throw you away cuz of a background check - it's not a job you want. You clearly on an expendable level then.

There are no 'background checks' when it comes to hiring in sports, lawyers, entertainment, music, executives, personal trainers, modelling, photography, surgeons, etc. Anything that requires mad skills, which triumph over a 12 y/o shoplifting or bad credit or unpaid speeding ticket charge.

But for corporate monkey jobs - where you just want to setup another barrier to filter out people - you have to go through that.

I've been thru a couple BG checks. Last one was the army. I don't care. But unless it's triple murder - i know i would've been hired regardless of what was in it. What I brought to the table was paramount over anything else.

r
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well, what's funny is- i'm in marketing. who cares what my background is. The job I currently have- they do checks on some people (we make things for the defense and security market, as well as other high tech items) but there's no reason to check me.

The job I was considering also makes high tech security items (lasers).

I guess that's why. I'm hoping that whatever they find on my background won't really make a difference.
 
stilleto said:
It's complicated, but around 18 years ago.
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i think u should be fine. we use to run them for pre-employment all the time. we mostly looked for criminal history and verifying addresses. the obvious exceptions are positions involving clearance or law enforcement. as long as your current SS# corresponds to the jobs and addresses u have most recently (5-7 years) i dont thing u have anything to worry about.

good luck :)
 
8and20 said:
i think u should be fine. we use to run them for pre-employment all the time. we mostly looked for criminal history and verifying addresses. the obvious exceptions are positions involving clearance or law enforcement. as long as your current SS# corresponds to the jobs and addresses u have most recently (5-7 years) i dont thing u have anything to worry about.

good luck :)
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cool. thank you, Legs O' Muscle.
 
i recently passed a gov't background check and got the job
and i've got more skeletons than RNCH
 
Stilleto, it all depends on what type of search they do. Most run criminal and credit check. I don't know too many that check civil filings. I think most school info and job history verification is still done the old fashioned way -- telephone. I could be wrong, but I think that is typical. The changed social is probably so long ago that it won't even raise any issue. If it does, identity fraud is so common these days that I would probably just say that I changed it for that reason, if you don't want to go into the details of why you really changed it.
 
stilleto said:
well, what's funny is- i'm in marketing. who cares what my background is. The job I currently have- they do checks on some people (we make things for the defense and security market, as well as other high tech items) but there's no reason to check me.

The job I was considering also makes high tech security items (lasers).

I guess that's why. I'm hoping that whatever they find on my background won't really make a difference.
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True. BG checks are usually used as 'filters' by corporations to weed out candidates. Makes the hiring decision process for middle/junior managers a little bit easier. HR likes it, cuz it's always fun to get results!

For non-monkey work jobs that require skills, BG checks/references are irrelevant.

r
 
most arent as detailed as you think (my buddy has been with 3 fortune 500 companies in HR)
 
RottenWillow said:
And not just convictions. Even Not Guilty verdicts show up.
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yeah that's bullshit
but true...even when their was no trial cause the charges were dropped
 
Bino said:
yeah that's bullshit
but true...even when their was no trial cause the charges were dropped
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That's teh suckass. Potential employers could easily be prejudiced against you even for NG verdicts. I did time in a Fed prison, but one other NG on my record really makes me look like a repeat offender. I'm trying to get that NG expunged right now.
 
RottenWillow said:
That's teh suckass. Potential employers could easily be prejudiced against you even for NG verdicts. I did time in a Fed prison, but one other NG on my record really makes me look like a repeat offender. I'm trying to get that NG expunged right now.
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i got some bullshit that didn't even make it to a trial, it showed up.
sucks, cause without that i could say i've been trouble free for a decade.
instead i gotta say 7 yrs
 
What kind of background check? There's a big difference between a private investigator, an online service, and the intelligence community.

Try getting a TS clearance from the US government. Nothing like a bunch of black suits going to your first grade teacher to ask about you.
 
swatdoc said:
What kind of background check? There's a big difference between a private investigator, an online service, and the intelligence community.

Try getting a TS clearance from the US government. Nothing like a bunch of black suits going to your first grade teacher to ask about you.
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Funny on that.

If you want to be an employee or lowly contractor. Clearance is needed.

If you're part of an important contracting company with a fancy big contract - you can work anywhere in the world, and never need one. My old employer got a huge DHS 9/11 contract. I did tons of work for them at offices around the world.

Never once did I have to ask 'permission' (ie: clearance) from the US Government. Not that i had anything to hide. Kinda funny.

Of course, later on - after my work on nationally sensitive data. Just to hold a freakin' M16 and get lousy pay in the army - I had to get every part of my body and life checked out. Too funny!

r
 
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Razorguns said:
Funny on that.

If you want to be an employee or lowly contractor. Clearance is needed.

If you're part of an important contracting company with a fancy big contract - you can work anywhere in the world, and never need one. My old employer got a huge DHS 9/11 contract. I did tons of work for them at offices around the world.

Never once did I have to ask 'permission' (ie: clearance) from the US Government. Not that i had anything to hide. Kinda funny.

Of course, later on - after my work on nationally sensitive data. Just to hold a freakin' M16 and get lousy pay in the army - I had to get every part of my body and life checked out. Too funny!

r
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I'm sure even as a contractor the DIA did some investigative work on you if it involved sensitive material. Not everyone who works with confidential material needs a formal clearance.
 
swatdoc said:
I'm sure even as a contractor the DIA did some investigative work on you if it involved sensitive material. Not everyone who works with confidential material needs a formal clearance.
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Nope.

It's all about the environment that exists when you get past the 'lowly hourly federal job' category. Much MUCH higher up.

We're talking multi-million dollar contracts. Canadian, Saudi, Australian, British, Isreali companies all take part in this (ever wonder why they support our wars? Hmmm!). I've worked with them. 0% of them had to get any "approval" (which is what a clearance is) to work projects.

Heck, isn't some European company making our Air Force Jets now? I'm sure the European who's designing the sophisticated weapons computer system on the jet, is not filling out a form so he can approved by some lazy low paid affirmative action hired govt employee.

You can't do clearances on foreigners in foreign countries. Great little loophole so you can hire any talented person you want - in ANY country (want your software written in India?).

Increased efficiency = saved money = more money in the pockets of the big boys. How awesome!

One of the reasons why outsourcing of Govt projects has risen 1000% in the past few years.

r
 
Razorguns said:
You can't do clearances on foreigners in foreign countries. Great little loophole so you can hire any talented person you want - in ANY country (want your software written in India?).
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You can't give a clearance to a foreigner, but you can investigate them for conflicts of interest or other worrisome things that would make a person more prone to sell secrets.

It's easier to obtain foreign surveillance and intelligence on a foreign asset than it is a domestic one.
 
swatdoc said:
You can't give a clearance to a foreigner, but you can investigate them for conflicts of interest or other worrisome things that would make a person more prone to sell secrets.

It's easier to obtain foreign surveillance and intelligence on a foreign asset than it is a domestic one.
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Investigation means nothing.

What happened to those blackwater guys who did shit in Iraq? They're evne Americans and still not in jail!

US has no power over foreigners. The employee can just say 'fuck you'. You don't even have to give them your name.

Saudi companies own so much of the shit around you. Govt buildings, ports, defense companies. No went to Saudi Arabia, did a complete investigation on every employee there, demanded names and numbers - then went to Washing "Sorry Bush. Can't sell this property to the Sauds. They employ a guy who beat his wife".

The USG needs foreign money. Seen our dollar? With that, the USG will give out anything in exchange for those bailouts. Want our ports? our jets? our contracts? our software? Bush in SA what 5 times a year now?

And 'hiring the talent you need, free of stupid restrictions, anywhere in the world' is also something you can easily include.

The USG has been 'on sale' for awhile now.

r
 
Razorguns said:
Investigation means nothing.

What happened to those blackwater guys who did shit in Iraq? They're evne Americans and still not in jail!

US has no power over foreigners. The employee can just say 'fuck you'. You don't even have to give them your name.

Saudi companies own so much of the shit around you. Govt buildings, ports, defense companies. No went to Saudi Arabia, did a complete investigation on every employee there, demanded names and numbers - then went to Washing "Sorry Bush. Can't sell this property to the Sauds. They employ a guy who beat his wife".

The USG needs foreign money. Seen our dollar? With that, the USG will give out anything in exchange for those bailouts. Want our ports? our jets? our contracts? our software? Bush in SA what 5 times a year now?

And 'hiring the talent you need, free of stupid restrictions, anywhere in the world' is also something you can easily include.

The USG has been 'on sale' for awhile now.

r
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Let me assure you with 100% confidence, if you become enough of a torn in the government's side, you will be dealt with no matter what your citizenship status is. There are other ways to deal with these things besides the legal system.
 
swatdoc said:
Let me assure you with 100% confidence, if you become enough of a torn in the government's side, you will be dealt with no matter what your citizenship status is. There are other ways to deal with these things besides the legal system.
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money > *

Look at the Saudis. Got away with killing 3,000 americans. And we focused instead on Saddam.

Can't beat that sir!

I have Saudi friends growing up if i ever need them. Right now I don't.

r
 
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