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Back Width vs. Back Thickness????
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Most of my training is for deadlifts and rowing type of movements (deads, stones, tire flip, dragging, etc...) so I've started having a day mostly of chins and face pulls.
B True
B True
sorry bro, once a week is enough for me.
However, i have changed the routine some:
deads (alternate with straight leg deads)
pullups
close-grip (palms away) barbell row
single arm cable rows on row machine (only 2nd week of these, but love them so far)
close-grip lat pull-downs
hypers in no deads
However, i have changed the routine some:
deads (alternate with straight leg deads)
pullups
close-grip (palms away) barbell row
single arm cable rows on row machine (only 2nd week of these, but love them so far)
close-grip lat pull-downs
hypers in no deads
wnt2bBeast
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isnt bigdho hitting it like that??JKurz1 said:Anyone train back 2x week, one for width and one for thickness????? Routine?
InTraining
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Hmm..this sounds like a good idea...seperate the rows from the vertical type pulling movements...I work back 2x a week but I just vary the workout a little with the rows....
Here is a routine I would use if I did this
Width
Weighted Pullups
Lat Pulldowns(wide grip)
Parallel Grip(aka V bar) Pulldown
Nautilus Pullover Machine
Thickness
Rack Deads(or regular deads, I just prefer these)
BB Rows
DB rows
maybe a cable row or other machine row
rear delt work
Here is a routine I would use if I did this
Width
Weighted Pullups
Lat Pulldowns(wide grip)
Parallel Grip(aka V bar) Pulldown
Nautilus Pullover Machine
Thickness
Rack Deads(or regular deads, I just prefer these)
BB Rows
DB rows
maybe a cable row or other machine row
rear delt work
InTraining said:
I hammer my back 2x a week thickness and width on both days
Bent over rows
Wide grip weighted chins
and then either close grip pull downs or seated rows..
My back still isnt that great... but it never really started to grow until I started smokin it 2x a week....
JKurz1 said:Anyone train back 2x week, one for width and one for thickness????? Routine?
i do actually
day 1
bb rows
close grip t bar row
close grip rows - i might try the ones that casuall posted about
day 2
rack deads - they should be on the other day, but w/e
wide grip pullups or pulldowns
close grip pulldowns
they are trained about 3 days apart
bigdho
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mon\chest back width abs
tues\legs calfs
wed\off
thurs\shoulders back thickness traps abs
fri\bis tris calfs
all done on a 5x5 routine with a little more volume added to everything except back since I hit it 2 times a week. Its going good except for Ive had to slack off of everything latley because we are in the middle of a big remodel at the gym and I got suckered into doing all the drywall and painting. btw, if anyone has ever done drywall how in the hell do you do that shit right? I DO NOT know how to drywall. And to all the bros that work construction AND bodybuild, I commend you my friend because I am having a hard time just eating right let alone getting my workouts in. I dont know how youall do it
tues\legs calfs
wed\off
thurs\shoulders back thickness traps abs
fri\bis tris calfs
all done on a 5x5 routine with a little more volume added to everything except back since I hit it 2 times a week. Its going good except for Ive had to slack off of everything latley because we are in the middle of a big remodel at the gym and I got suckered into doing all the drywall and painting. btw, if anyone has ever done drywall how in the hell do you do that shit right? I DO NOT know how to drywall. And to all the bros that work construction AND bodybuild, I commend you my friend because I am having a hard time just eating right let alone getting my workouts in. I dont know how youall do it
psychedout
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I see where your coming for Jkurz, but IMHO, there is so much overlap between exercises for width and for thickness that you really can't seperate them that much.
i.e. You can sit there doing wipe grip chins all day for width, but thickness is bound to accompany it.
or -- you can do db rows all day long, and your still gonna get a wide back.
Bottom line IMO -- there is way to much overlap to bother with seperating them -- by doing this your basically training back 2 x per week.
i.e. You can sit there doing wipe grip chins all day for width, but thickness is bound to accompany it.
or -- you can do db rows all day long, and your still gonna get a wide back.
Bottom line IMO -- there is way to much overlap to bother with seperating them -- by doing this your basically training back 2 x per week.
Dave949
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I agree with Psychedout on this one. Actually... you cannot seperate them at all. The Lat muscle is one distinct muscle unit and contracts as one distinct muscle unit and one cannot contract one area of the lat more than another area of the lat simply by doing chins or rows. It contracts as a whole unit regardless of the movement....aka....all or nothing.psychedout said:
InTraining
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Good point about the width vs. thickness thing.....maybe I should have titled my post "horizontal pulling" and "vertical pulling" as that is basically what I am doing....I like this idea though and I'm going to try it out....
LeanMeanHockeyMachine
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I work my back for width and thickness in one workout, once a week. Here's what I do
-Close Grip Chin Ups
-Medium Grip Pulldowns
-Seated Cable Row
-Stiff Leg Deadlifts
-Hyper-extensions
-One Arm Machine Row
-Close Grip Chin Ups
-Medium Grip Pulldowns
-Seated Cable Row
-Stiff Leg Deadlifts
-Hyper-extensions
-One Arm Machine Row
LeanMeanHockeyMachine
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JKurz1 said:
Should those replace something? Or should I add them in on top of everything else?
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