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rustilldown
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600 Mgs of eq and a higher carb diet is creating some real narly back pumps. Even taurine can't keep them at bay. Are there some other remedies you guys may know ?
Back pumps from eq
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Taurine is about the only recommendation I know that works. I would just try and supplement more Taurine and see if that helps. I've had to take 20-30g preworkout at times to keep back pumps down
rustilldown
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Yeah I'll try more maybe I've only been around 5g . Endurance and strength are making it worth it thus far .
Damnit, sorry to hear man, I was just considering for my next cycle in a few months 600mg eq and 400 cyp. Main reason is for building endurance/speed/strength. I am upset to hear that this is causing back pumps. I hope you find something to help ease them mate. Be sure to let us know if so.
rustilldown
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A lot of The back pumps I have always experienced tend to have a a common thing in common which is high carbs and calories. I've run eq while cutting and don't experience the pumps. Carbs are upwards of 400 -500 grams at the moment and it's definitely contributing to it. I don't want to lower because the results coming off a shred have been very good. And energy and intensity are through the roof along with sheer muscle size . I'm open for more suggestions .. Without lowering carbs
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Maybe cut the dose down some?
rustilldown
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Yeah that may be the only option. 600 ~> 400 seem like a good plan ?
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I had it happen last time I ran eq while gaining but further into the cycle. This is also a different brand and I can really feel the increased rbc and endurance already only 3 weeks in. I can ride the stationary bike and do sprints for 45 minutes and when I get off my legs are so full of blood that 315 squats feel like air. I do love the pumps it's just the lower back ones that are getting to me. Other than that I feel awesome
I hear ya on the lower back pumps with higher carbs though. I'm at 400g per day on carbs right now at end of week 5 Test/Tren/EQ and lower back pumps have been so bad at times it's nearly ran me out of the gym....especially on squat and back days. I started mega dosing the hell out of Taurine and it has helped reduce them, but they are still there, just where they are at least manageable now
I had it happen last time I ran eq while gaining but further into the cycle. This is also a different brand and I can really feel the increased rbc and endurance already only 3 weeks in. I can ride the stationary bike and do sprints for 45 minutes and when I get off my legs are so full of blood that 315 squats feel like air. I do love the pumps it's just the lower back ones that are getting to me. Other than that I feel awesome
As a side note since EQ really increases RBC, makes the blood thicker and increases overall volume do your blood work and your heart a big favor and give blood mid cycle. Preferably do double RBC. Unless your Iron is higher than they like then just give whole blood. Its a really healthy thing to do for your heart while on cycle and almost no one does it.
I agree completely. I have my 8 week appointment to give on the 19th of this month, which will be almost halfway through my EQ run
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As a rule-of-thumb I donate blood every 56 days ... whether on cycle or not. It has SO many benefits ... but the 1 I like MOST is that after that pint has been 'sucked' out of you, your body has to start creating new blood cells to replace the ones you 'lost' ... which means clean cells ... fresh cells ... undamaged cells ... and I feel good with less headaches after donating.
As far as the pumps go ... I have had to supplement 25g of Taurine in order to get them to subside down to a manageable level until I decided to drop the EQ dosage down to 400mg/wk for 4 wks and then upped it to 600 again. Worked for me.
As far as the pumps go ... I have had to supplement 25g of Taurine in order to get them to subside down to a manageable level until I decided to drop the EQ dosage down to 400mg/wk for 4 wks and then upped it to 600 again. Worked for me.
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rustilldown
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Ok great guys thank you for the advice! I will set up the appointment ASAP!
I know this should be a no brainer but make sure you LIE about all the obvious things on their questionaire.
Yeh you kinds have to...lol. There are specific questions about needle use and steroid use. Just lie or they wont let you give. There's nothing to worry about, as they won't test your blood for AAS. They only do a 12 test panel for infectious diseases
Same for tattoos. They will ask if you have gotten any tattoos in the last year or something. Just say no. Shit, when I gave I had gotten my newest tattoo like 5 days before I gave. But it was covered so they couldnt call bullshit on me.
Read about the difference between giving double red and whole blood. Try for double red if you can. Prepare to be harpooned also. The lady took out the needle and I said holy shit. She asked if I was afraid of needles. I said no but I dont think much of being harpooned. 16ga pin bro. 16ga!!!
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Yeah I plan to lie thx for the heads up I actually did donate once when I ran my first eq cycle at about week 12. My head was pounding anxiety was up I was irritable and after donating all those symptoms went away. I remember my gf saying " you can't donate blood being on AAS" being young and a smart ass I think I quoted " why it will only make them stronger"
I actually did donate once when I ran my first eq cycle at about week 12. My head was pounding anxiety was up I was irritable and after donating all those symptoms went away. I remember my gf saying " you can't donate blood being on AAS" being young and a smart ass I think I quoted " why it will only make them stronger"
rustilldown
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Pumps seem to be going away with larger doses of taurine and an even increased water intake. Was squatting 365 for reps last night and I was still able to bend down and put the plates back on the lower holster when finished rather than putting them up high good sign. ! The eq is really getting into full swing vascularity is unreal !
good sign. ! The eq is really getting into full swing vascularity is unreal !
What else are you running with the EQ bro? How long are you into it again? and how long are you planning on running?
curious because I'm thinking about a 8 week blast, 8 week cruise(with some pct supps also), 10 week blast, full PCT as in my sig
Maybe starting in march. I'm really contemplating EQ but I have never run it.
curious because I'm thinking about a 8 week blast, 8 week cruise(with some pct supps also), 10 week blast, full PCT as in my sig
Maybe starting in march. I'm really contemplating EQ but I have never run it.
rustilldown
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350 Mgs test cyp and about 400 Mgs mast enanthate, 600 Mgs eq.
But you can tell it's the eq kicking now. I can cardio forever, when I pump weights I get Skin bursting pumps look twice as big after a set but not watery ... Lean. Loving it so far. And I am eating a solid 5000k a day now.
How far along on the EQ are you? Are you noticing the "EQ hunger"?
rustilldown
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Week 5. And hunger is drastically up but I would contribute that more to the added workouts and intensity. I've felt the eq hunger before. Last time around week 8 or 9 I would literally eat a loaf of bread in a sitting with pb and jam. It was overpowering to the point that I gained as much fat as I did muscle. This time so far it's just feeling like an increased demand for food and nutrients ..not like savage hunger.
Joints feel good, and the number one thing I notice so far is energy. I work a 12 hr day in the construction oilfield as a superintendent. I am up at 4, do 30 min fasted cardio. Eat a huge breakfast. Then at 530 pm I gym hard as fuck after workin all day,
do another 20 of cardio and then power eat supper. I am never tired, never worn out and this is something I haven't experienced before. Feels good.
Obviously you have a superior quality EQ than you may have run in the past no?
rustilldown
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Not necessarily.. But it is a diff source and they are considered a higher end lab but it's all naysay, I am also far more conditioned and knowledgeable than when I last ran it so the effects may be felt sooner this run.
Yes all of what you stated is no doubt playing a role in your results. Keep us updated.
I just started week 6 of EQ, and I'm a little surprised my appetite is actually DOWN. I'm eating 4k cals per day all clean, but I have to force some meals. That not normal for me. It may be because I cut out all my cardio and haven't done any since beginning of November. I'm probably going to add it back in soon to see if it ramps my hunger back up again. Appetite increase from EQ would be nice right now, but so far I don't see it
