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musketeer said:
LOL! Duhh! I should have seen that! I remember that last time I worked out at a gym that had hammer strength and I'm sure I never saw anybody use more than 3 plates a side! Can't remember exactly how high I actually got but I remember 2 plates being a major milestone for me. Seated hammer press is one of the only machines that I actual like using. The grove where you are pressing back up over your head is great, and it somehow allows you to press more with your delts than tricpes which is always a bonus as my tris are always geting sore...

Exactly, homie.
I tried the HS for delts because Chris Cormier is always singing its praises. I think that I might try them from chest. I will try a position similiar to when I did the military presses: hands wide and seat deep enough for a good, long range of motion, but with enough clearance to secure my feet on the ground.
 
Guinness5.0 said:
BB-

What's with all the machines/isolation?

In regards to my thigh workout, I can see what you are saying. I have started to diet strictly again, and I am trying to kick my caffeine habit, so I decided to take off squats this week and try something different. My quads were not sore at all and I could do hard cardio the next morning, so I feel that session was a bit of a wash. I will be back squatting heavy next week.
As to my delt workout, I never get my shoulders sore, so I thought I would try a new approach, and it worked. I also trained alone the last two workouts, so that might have factored in also.
What would you recommend (no 5x5, nothing against it, but it isn't my thing)?
 
I'm totally sold on compound movements- more specifically setting up a training cycle that focuses on improving them within a set timeframe. I feel that that is the best way to force adaptation. The set/rep scheme doesn't have to be 5x5- it could be 3x8 or whatever. I feel that if I can improve my military press by 20 pounds over the course of 4 weeks (just throwing out #'s for argument's sake) and eat big then my shoulders will grow/improve.

The obvious response is "Well what about rear/side delts?" but if the rest of your training involves the compounds, they'll get hit plenty. I can personally atest that heavy rows done w/ torso parallel to the ground caused more rear delt growth than I've ever seen.

Just my opinions. I feel that the body works best when training synergistically and that the iso stuff doesn't do much but gobble up recovery energy that could be used to increase overall work capacity in the lifts that matter more.

The proof's in the pudding- if it's working then do it. I've just had a hell of a fun time making progress equal to my last AAS cycle so it's working for me :)
 
4 plates a side on the hammer overhead press? thats impressive.. I personally hate that fucking thing it tweaks my shoulder something evil when I try using it.

I saw Cormier shillin hammer in the last musclemag, seems to be working for him.. I like their row peices but the rest doesnt do it for me. (in that issue cormier said he could incline 405 for 12 with the bar.. impressive. But they also 'featured' A&F model lookin chrisitan boveng who apparently can do the same weight for reps.. ironic in an issue with an article devoted to blatent bullshit and exxageration in bbing :))
 
My shoulder rountine is very basic, but really gets me sore and powerful, fast:

Push presses: 3-4 sets of 4-10 reps
Cheat dumbel laterals: 1 set of 6-10

That's all!
 
For me that would be too much. But we are all different, and sometimes need to use a different approach. On that note, it looks good to me. Welcome back to the world of bodybuilding. I look forward to reading about all the progress you will be making :)
 
Tweakle said:
4 plates a side on the hammer overhead press? thats impressive.. I personally hate that fucking thing it tweaks my shoulder something evil when I try using it.

I saw Cormier shillin hammer in the last musclemag, seems to be working for him.. I like their row peices but the rest doesnt do it for me. (in that issue cormier said he could incline 405 for 12 with the bar.. impressive. But they also 'featured' A&F model lookin chrisitan boveng who apparently can do the same weight for reps.. ironic in an issue with an article devoted to blatent bullshit and exxageration in bbing :))

Christian Boveng could have repped 405 12 times on the incline when he used to be bigger, but I can see what you are saying about exaggeration in BBing magazines.
Though, I look much more like a A&F model than a BBer, and I can deadlift/squat 500+, so you never know.
 
musketeer said:
My shoulder rountine is very basic, but really gets me sore and powerful, fast:

Push presses: 3-4 sets of 4-10 reps
Cheat dumbel laterals: 1 set of 6-10

That's all!

Why do you do cheat DB raises? I have found side raises to be very form intensive. Do you train your rear delts?
 
C3bodybuilding said:
For me that would be too much. But we are all different, and sometimes need to use a different approach. On that note, it looks good to me. Welcome back to the world of bodybuilding. I look forward to reading about all the progress you will be making :)

What does your routine look like?
 
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