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Back in the day!

Ezekiel

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Just thinking:

What did guys do for PCT if anything back in the day?

Say like in the 70's & 80's

Also: What's the biggest difference between now and then?
 
pyramids and doses were lower. Drugs were an extra help but the most important thing was always diet and brutal excercise sessions.
 
In the 70's , nothing. And nobody had gyno. Since dboll and decca (both notorious for causing gyno) were the main choices that proves the dosages were low.
 
Ezekiel said:
Just thinking:

What did guys do for PCT - post cycle therapy - if anything back in the day?

Say like in the 70's & 80's

Also: What's the biggest difference between now and then?


I tried it and lost gains. my PCT i use works flawlessly.
 
All of the above are true.

However, I did have a friend that was in pharmacy sales and he got me h.cg.

P.CT is the one and only thing that has changed and improved dramatically over the years.

That is also why you'll generally see me recommend lower doses for longer periods. Hard to break the old school ways.
 
In the early 80's we did have and use Hcg. That was it other than the taper down dosages and wait for natural recovery.
 
Nelson Montana said:
In the 70's , nothing. And nobody had gynecomastia. Since dboll and decca (both notorious for causing gynecomastia) were the main choices that proves the dosages were low.

And/or they stayed on year round depending who we are talking about.
 
Dan Duchaine was the first guys to write about Nolvadex. It was an intellectual guess since he knew too much decca and dboll would cause gyno. Toward the end of his life he admitted Nolva kinda sucks. Meanwhile I still read about guys taking 50-100 mgs a day. And with non aromatized drugs! Insane.
 
Have no idea, what guys used. I do know growth, IGF, and insulin have become much more popular in the past 10 years.

HCG seemed to be the acceptable and exclusive PCT, Nolvadex seemed to be the only Anti-e.

One consequence is the sight of growth gut, which is horrible in my opinion.
 
st8grad said:
And/or they stayed on year round depending who we are talking about.


In the 80's, yeah, but not before. Testosterone wasn't used much -- dboll, primmo, winstrol and decca, were the biggies and they wouldn't act as an HR T. And if they stayed on long enough, they'd still get gynecomastia.

I think the first (unofficial) recorded case of gynecomastia was when Franco Columbo won the Olympia in 1981. That was right around thew time the dosages started going up and there were no anti-e's yet. Everybody was like: "What the fuck is THAT? Titties?!"
 
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Nelson Montana said:
In the 70's , nothing. And nobody had gynecomastia. Since dboll and decca (both notorious for causing gynecomastia) were the main choices that proves the dosages were low.

Not only that but they only juiced leading up to a show!
 
What would Arnold look like if he took Growth Hormone all year round, IGF, insulin, and all the roids we have these days. Tren, EQ, Sus, all that shit.. Those fucking biceps would be insane. Add a little synthol to those bad boys and look out.
 
I'm 63 and lived it. I never saw PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Our dosages were small .... I did a cycle of 2mg winny x 3 each day for 5 weeks and that was the norm! And I got results.

Dianabol - methandrostenolone - was a favorite and Drs would give it to you. Same low dosages.

Injectables were the big jump with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and test (must have been e or c) done weekly by the top guys. Even then, 50 mg was a big hit. And these guys got big.

Everyone was really scared too. Scared of cancer and "the cops".
 
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