Big Jay first off I will never air on the side of Natural Bodybuilding as I feel once on you're no longer natural. I will never preach to someone about steriods as all of us have a choice. Steroids have side effects that raise levels on liver enzymes as well as pancreas enzymes as well as cholesterol. This is a fact. D bol cause kidney pains even with milk thistle this is a fact. Every person is different but had I not been taking steroids stones aside I would not have the other things that have gone wrong with my body for the years I was on. I have never been stupid with them until recently. I have read you're posts in the past and respect your opinion really I do. In this case my being an idiot and pushing the envelope caused me to have troubles that I would not have had. True that when one comes off the body slowly goes back to normal in regards to blood test and enzyme readings but in my case it was to late. To show a point I was on 400 equipose 400 deca 50 anadrol and 25 d bol. Although combining anadrol and d bol is very stupid that aside my dosage of a.a.s has always been conservative. in my body there is not much toleration for this and in this case it showed. However steroids do have side effects and can cause health problems. That is MY opinion and I do respect yours.