Azazell's new bulking cycle, please critique :)

[burnthiscorpse]

Hcgenerate is great on cycle as Meekat said. Adjust the dose to whatever keeps your boys full. Somewhere between 5-8 caps most likely.

Also....I strongly advise against frontloading. It doesn't do your endocrine system any favors and really doesn't do what your thinking it does as effectively as your thinking. Plus tons more initial test means tons more estrogen. Just my advice bro. Take it Fwiw.

 

[RickRock13]

I call bullshit on the theory that frontloading makes the half lives kick in faster. If a steroid takes 3 weeks to reach peak levels, i dont care how much you inject at once, its gonna take 3 weeks to reach peak levels. Now when it does, your levels will be through the roof, but its not gonna make the steroid work faster

You are absolutely right bro. Matter what dose you run, it will always take the same amount of time to reach peak levels. Front loading is overrated and pointless. All you get from it is sides quicker

 

[burnthiscorpse]

You are absolutely right bro. Matter what dose you run, it will always take the same amount of time to reach peak levels. Front loading is overrated and pointless. All you get from it is sides quicker

The only way this ever works is with sust. Obviously because of the Prop/phenyl prop.

Still not advisable.

 

[Azazell]

Thanks all, I'll probably wont frontload if you advise me not to I'm here to listen. But I have a question, RickRock123 stated that I'll get sides quicker? Getting sides quicker means that frontloading work? Isn't it a proof that the drug has reached its peak in the blood which is why I am getting the side effects faster?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Thanks all, I'll probably wont frontload if you advise me not to I'm here to listen. But I have a question, RickRock123 stated that I'll get sides quicker? Getting sides quicker means that frontloading work? Isn't it a proof that the drug has reached its peak in the blood which is why I am getting the side effects faster?

Front loading is also wasting gear and $$. When rick says you get sides quicker he means that as Blue steel also said....doesnt matter how much test you inject its not going to hit you for a good 3 weeks. If you run your normal amount maybe you might get some sides mid cycle...end of cycle maybe from things like estrogen if you were gyno prone. But if a couple weeks of massive amounts of test hit you at once up front your going to get these possible sides sooner from the big hormone change as opposed to later when things slowly build. Does that kinda make sense? I didnt really word it the best.

 

[Azazell]

Front loading is also wasting gear and $$. When rick says you get sides quicker he means that as Blue steel also said....doesnt matter how much test you inject its not going to hit you for a good 3 weeks. If you run your normal amount maybe you might get some sides mid cycle...end of cycle maybe from things like estrogen if you were gyno prone. But if a couple weeks of massive amounts of test hit you at once up front your going to get these possible sides sooner from the big hormone change as opposed to later when things slowly build. Does that kinda make sense? I didnt really word it the best.

Yes, it makes sense. Thank's you've helped me alot!

I have noted adjustments: HCGenerate on-cycle, no nolva, no frontloading.

 

[digit0x]

I call bullshit on the theory that frontloading makes the half lives kick in faster. If a steroid takes 3 weeks to reach peak levels, i dont care how much you inject at once, its gonna take 3 weeks to reach peak levels. Now when it does, your levels will be through the roof, but its not gonna make the steroid work faster

I see why people front load, but I don't think the end result is any different.

It actually will help you reach peak levels faster. I was curious about the idea and ran a quick experiment. If you know how to use excel you can chart blood levels from day 1 through PCT. For longer esters, around week 4 to 6 are when levels peak in the blood. However, immediately following your first dose, your blood levels skyrocket past homeostasis.

Its really just a matter of preference, but like I said, the end result is no different. If you really want fast results, the myriad of orals available are a great way to do so.

 

[Azazell]

I see why people front load, but I don't think the end result is any different.

It actually will help you reach peak levels faster. I was curious about the idea and ran a quick experiment. If you know how to use excel you can chart blood levels from day 1 through PCT. For longer esters, around week 4 to 6 are when levels peak in the blood. However, immediately following your first dose, your blood levels skyrocket past homeostasis.

Its really just a matter of preference, but like I said, the end result is no different. If you really want fast results, the myriad of orals available are a great way to do so.

Orals are not an option for me, they suppress my appetite for the whole time I am using it and after I use it for couple of weeks. My last cycle I did an oral and I couldn't eat half of the cycle. For me, it is useless to bulk up with an oral because the lack of food.

My only option was to either front load or use a short ester. Using a short ester requires more frequent injections, and I don't like injections and the discomfort that accompanies short ester shots.

This is my fourth cycle and I still dread injections. I don't know when I am going to get used to them.