Some day, Palestineans will raid Israel and you'll feel what they're feeling now.
No they wont. And no I wont. I dont live in Israel.
The tables will change and so will the games. Let's see how long the US will support Israel when Saudi Arabia grows some nuts and cuts off the fuel / petroleum and Egypt / Syria / Iran step in.[/quote]
LOL! Saudi Arabia will only cut off our oil supply (and the oil supply to France, Germany, UK, etc) when they run out of it.
It's only a matter of time before the Arabs / Middle Eastern countries realise that when one Arab country is attacked, they should retaliate instead of think about money - those filthy animals. They're not that smart them Arabs, nor are they tactical. If they had balls or a shred of brains in them, they would realise that countries like Iran and Egypt once had the strongest armies in the world, and Saudi - one of the richest countries in the world, if they were to come together - they would defeat Israel. Eventually though, they will grow some nuts and brains and do it. The US will still be fixing its economy and when the boycott of US products starts happening from countries that give a shit and the oil / petroleum relations with Saudia Arabia breaks, the US will decide that it may not be in its best interest to blindly support Israel. Israel will then be left all alone, amidst once-Persian warriors, Hizbolla, Hamas, Syrian Army, Egyptian Army - all funnily enough look death in the face and smile. But what do I know. I'm sure Condoliza Rice will come down to the middle east and solve everything.
I don't really care who wins, cause as far as I'm concerned Hizbolla, Hamas and all the rest have had acts that are just plain wrong like blowing people up and shit, but when Israel gets involved in shooting up schools and hospitals and killing innocent children, then I'm going to say the day will come when they will be defeated again like they were defeated in 2006 in Lebanon by a bunch of militants. Gurrilla warfare is something the Arabs are very good at and they will die to protect and keep their land. Victory comes to those who wait. Israel has woken up a sleeping giant, a fire breathing dragon, waiting for an opportunity to take back what is rightfully theirs. It may not happen now. It may not happen in the next 10 years. But it will happen. It is inevitable.
Wow. You have proven one of two things:
1) You have absolutely no idea of what has been going on over the past 50 years.
or
2) The Arab world is so mind-numbingly stupid that they believe their best course of action is to sit on their hands while Israel grows more and more powerful...and THEN attack it.
They tried that a few times right after Israel the country was born, and they got their asses handed to them.
Honestly, I feel bad for the Palestinians. The Arab world has effectively made them their wipping boy. The Arab world does not support Palestine, except as a means to an end (that end would be basic anti-Israel rhetoric which allows the Muslim world to place ALL of their problems on the doorstep of the Joos. Sad thing is your religion blinds you enough to follow it). How else would you explain Egypt and Jordan slaughtering tens if not hundreds of thousands of Palestinians when they attempted to flee into those respective countries? How else would you explain the total lack of any sort of meaningful support (aside from public relations snippets) for these people?
From the other thread:
Israel withdrew from Gaza after a 38-year occupation because it had had enough of unending war and saw an opportunity for progress toward peace. Under Hamas, Gaza has, again, become a staging ground for attacks on Israeli soil. Thus, the Israeli response, a response which comes nowhere near close to an effort to "wipe out the Palestinians."
When Israel pulled out of Gaza, Gaza became a staging area for attacks on Israel, thus forcing the former to clamp down on the latter.
See, here's the thing: military operations cost a lot of money, and I think that Israel would like nothing more than to just ... stop. But whenever it tries, its adversaries do things like kidnap its soldiers and fire rockets onto its territory.
Why?
I think it's for two reasons: #1, since Israel makes for a great all-purpose whipping boy across much of the Muslim world, other governments find it useful to finance and encourage violent anti-Israelism. #2, the UN got the very creation of Israel wrong, sowing irremediable seeds of contention by evicting Palestinians from their land to make room for the new Israelis. No matter who's in charge, no matter how demographics change in the coming decades, the descendents of those Palestinians are never getting their land back. It'll take a world leader of Mandela-like proportions to find a way to bridge that gap.
Also, from a straight Law of Armed Conflict perspective, current Israeli operations are defensible. Hamas stated, in advance, that it did not intend to continue the cease-fire when it expired. Hamas followed through on that statement with rocket attacks on Israel, as clear an act of aggression as one could hope to find. That part's ok, actually - that's the kind of thing that hostile nations do. Hamas is in violation of the LOAC, however, when it uses mufti-clad irregulars to fire randomly from among the civilian populace. A further LOAC violation arises from Hamas's insistence on placing its (para)military operators within the civilian populace. These violations free Israel of any LOAC constraints regarding targeting (para)military operators that are embedded within said civilian populace. In other words, the onus is on Hamas to make a reasonable effort to ensure that civilians are out of harm's way, not on Israel to invent personalized munitions that kill only intended targets and none other.
It is not acceptable for a country to fire rockets at another country, nor is it acceptable for a country to kidnap the soldiers of another country. When so provoked, however, it is acceptable for a country to respond in a manner which it deems appropriate.