Avoid libido loss when on deca?

[Wilcox]

Was looking at this profile, and reading other comments.

Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) Profile

Now, heres what I want to know, I know everybody says you get deca dick etc but reading up I heard running a 2:1 ratio of test with deca should counter deca dick.

My question is, what would someone go about running deca at with test and what ester of test.

My only concern really is Gyno and Libido Loss here.

What amount of test would counter a regular dose of deca?

Anyone have a premade cycle they could show me with deca that would counter the deca dick and help reduce chances of gyno?

 

[Stryker1992]

Was looking at this profile, and reading other comments.

Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) Profile

Now, heres what I want to know, I know everybody says you get deca dick etc but reading up I heard running a 2:1 ratio of test with deca should counter deca dick.

My question is, what would someone go about running deca at with test and what ester of test.

My only concern really is Gyno and Libido Loss here.

What amount of test would counter a regular dose of deca?

Anyone have a premade cycle they could show me with deca that would counter the deca dick and help reduce chances of gyno?

You are going to need some sort of AI. I would recommend forma stanzol and E-Control. The E-control you can get from Ironmag labs and will be back in stock early this week. Forma is in with Mr. Supplements. Most guys use that and swear by it for gyno control.

 

[stevesmi]

you don't need to run test 2:1 deca.

and as far as deca dick obviously if you do not run test with it you run the risk but its the aftermath that really kills your libido, its the hard landing you get so you need a rock hardcore PCT lined up. best advice is if you have a great libido and don't want to risk messing it up you should leave deca for another day, when you are older. guys who are in their early 20's unless you compete have zero reason to mess with tren or deca..

 

[Stryker1992]

you don't need to run test 2:1 deca.

and as far as deca dick obviously if you do not run test with it you run the risk but its the aftermath that really kills your libido, its the hard landing you get so you need a rock hardcore PCT lined up. best advice is if you have a great libido and don't want to risk messing it up you should leave deca for another day, when you are older. guys who are in their early 20's unless you compete have zero reason to mess with tren or deca..

Even better advice....I will never touch deca again!

 

[justinjones1963]

I recommend using a 2:1 ratio. I have done that with no libido problems.

If you run deca, run it for say 10 weeks and the test for 14. Always run the test longer, by at least 4 weeks.

Get some dostinex. This is a wonder drug for your libido and it is a must to use when running deca or tren. I take .5mg twice a week. Also, use HCG 500is twice a week while on cycle because this will help recovery.

 

[zedhed]

You must have dontinex on hand when running deca!!!!!
You must have dostinex on hand when running deca!!!
You must have dostinex on hand when running deca!!!

 

[gymjunkie09]

Was looking at this profile, and reading other comments.

Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) Profile

Now, heres what I want to know, I know everybody says you get deca dick etc but reading up I heard running a 2:1 ratio of test with deca should counter deca dick.

My question is, what would someone go about running deca at with test and what ester of test.

My only concern really is Gyno and Libido Loss here.

What amount of test would counter a regular dose of deca?

Anyone have a premade cycle they could show me with deca that would counter the deca dick and help reduce chances of gyno?

weeks 1-12test e 500mg/week
weeks 1-10deca 300mg/week

add proviron thoughout at 50mg ed, dostinex, hcg 250iu 2x/week weeks 4 up till pct

just ran this exact cycle with dbol kickstart and no dostinex and had 0 libido issues whatsoever and now just finishing up pct still with no issues

 

[stevesmi]

^^^running the hcg helped you get a softer landing junkie. thats why i always recommend doing that...

 

[gymjunkie09]

^^^running the hcg helped you get a softer landing junkie. thats why i always recommend doing that...

i didn't even start it until around week 7 either because it didn't come in till then and still feel like I'm recovering quite well. the first couple weeks of pct were tough but i'm coming aournd pretty good now...I did run a very aggressive pct tho

hcgenerate
post cycle/unleashed
clomid 25mg ed

along with 10mg dbol a.m. which i'm sure helped maintain my gains but we'll see how things turn out when i stop it in a few days....although I will be running bridge for the next three months and have been running mod grf 1-29 and ipa as well

 

[BarbelBeast]

Ya definitely more test... I agree too having some caber on hand or using it will be a benefit. But if you have that Test dose cranked way up you shouldn't have a problem.

 

[Hexagon]

When you run a cycle of deca you should either stack with testosterone or masteron. Both will give you a healthy libido during your cycle. The amount needed will vary greatly from person to person.

The biggest concern with deca is not libido during the cycle, but after the cycle. 5-10% of deca users will experience some sort of lasting libido problems after the cycle. For some this will continue for 12 -18 months after the cycle.

All slow acting (long ester) steroids will be stored in several types of tissue. Fatty tissues among others. The steroid will be slowly released, and broken down by the body over months. The amounts are small, but for some they are large enough to hamper endogenous testosterone production. Nandrolone (deca) is worse than others because its tendency to cause shutdown in very small quantities.

This is much the same reason why athletes tests positive of deca, in some cases, years after their cycle. Much longer than the official detection time. A pre contest diet may be all that is required to release some deca into the system.

I would strongly recommend HCG during any cycle with deca. I always use an oral (tbol or winny) for 6 weeks after my last deca injection before I start my PCT.

There is very little to be gained by starting PCT earlier than 6 weeks after your last deca injection. Deca takes this long to be cleared from you system. To start much earlier is just to waist your SERMs.

The best solution is to use the fast acting NPP (Nandrolone PhenylPropionate aka fast deca - Durabolin) instead of Deca. You get the same results with less of the libido concerns.

 

[scott39]

This is some great info for me. My question is why run the winny. I have this on hand but I was not planning on running it. Should I? I am very concerned about my libido.

Stats if you need it.

5' 11'' 225lb
39 years old, 10% or less body fat. Not a perfect diet but no junk food of any type "usually". High protein and starting to reduce carbohydrates and sugars to lean down a bit more for the summer.
Training now for 22 years. I don't compete, I just like to look and feel good.
I am 4 weeks into a cycle of 300 per week sus, 150 per week deca, 20mg per day d-boll 2-IU's HGH per day, 1000 HCG one day before I take sus, and .5 eod Arimidex. I also take N2 Guard liver protection every day. The HGH I take 5 days per week for the last 4 + years now. normally at 1.5 IU's per day 5 days on 2 off

Thank you for your help

 

[stevesmi]

When you run a cycle of deca you should either stack with testosterone or masteron. Both will give you a healthy libido during your cycle. The amount needed will vary greatly from person to person.

The biggest concern with deca is not libido during the cycle, but after the cycle. 5-10% of deca users will experience some sort of lasting libido problems after the cycle. For some this will continue for 12 -18 months after the cycle.

All slow acting (long ester) steroids will be stored in several types of tissue. Fatty tissues among others. The steroid will be slowly released, and broken down by the body over months. The amounts are small, but for some they are large enough to hamper endogenous testosterone production. Nandrolone (deca) is worse than others because its tendency to cause shutdown in very small quantities.

This is much the same reason why athletes tests positive of deca, in some cases, years after their cycle. Much longer than the official detection time. A pre contest diet may be all that is required to release some deca into the system.

I would strongly recommend HCG during any cycle with deca. I always use an oral (tbol or winny) for 6 weeks after my last deca injection before I start my PCT.

There is very little to be gained by starting PCT earlier than 6 weeks after your last deca injection. Deca takes this long to be cleared from you system. To start much earlier is just to waist your SERMs.

The best solution is to use the fast acting NPP (Nandrolone PhenylPropionate aka fast deca - Durabolin) instead of Deca. You get the same results with less of the libido concerns.

great post

 

[scott39]

Thank you for your help. I will keep all of this in mind as I go along. I may increase my test up to 450 each week although at this point my libido is good . Can you tell me what the reason would be to add the winny? Also I am trying to reduce my body fat level so winny should help there correct? Dose winny affect your sex drive?

 

[hadbadexp]

find another option than deca,once you fell in the whole you wish to go back in time and not do it.some people their bodies don't react same way as I did for deca.
me and my buddy we both had same cycle (deca was included) he's fine and i'm suffering no lipido three months.

 

[pdaddyII]

find another option than deca,once you fell in the whole you wish to go back in time and not do it.some people their bodies don't react same way as I did for deca.
me and my buddy we both had same cycle (deca was included) he's fine and i'm suffering no lipido three months.

What were your doses and what did you run for PCT?

 

[Hexagon]

Thank you for your help. I will keep all of this in mind as I go along. I may increase my test up to 450 each week although at this point my libido is good . Can you tell me what the reason would be to add the winny? Also I am trying to reduce my body fat level so winny should help there correct? Dose winny affect your sex drive?

The reason I run 6 weeks of e.g. winny is that I like to have some productive use of the period from my last injection of deca until I can start PCT. If not this period can be a awful period with to little deca in you to get any positive results, and to much to start PCT. This way you may start PCT the day after your last winny.

This is not necessary, but suggestion on how to improve your cycle, and have a better transition from your cycle to pct.

Winny is not a diet pill, and do not by it self promote fat loss.

Winny does not create many strong bonds to the ar- receptors like Mastoron, proviron and DHT converted from testosterone. This is probably the reason why winny is not your first choice to promote sex drive.

 

[Wilcox]

Some damn good advice in here guys. Thank you so much! Still reading!