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Attempt at full HPTA recovery

Yes those are weeks. If you do use hcgen use it then use it last 4 weeks. Right now you need to blast hcg to get your balls pumping again.

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Im blasting 250 iu 3 time s a week now.. Should I stop HCG when I begin pct?

Also any ETA on unleashed/post cycle?

Thanks for the %20.. Really need it in the case.
 
Yes stop hcg when pct begins. Unleashed should be instock soon.

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For the remaining 4 weeks of the cyle blast hcg at 1000-2000 ius week. Then 3 days after last pin start pct.

PCT
Do one 100 mcg shot of triptorellin
(1-8)
Clomid 25 mg day
Postcycle/unleashed
Forma
Daa
Osta 25 mg day

(8-16)
Bridge
Daa
Phytoserms 347

I made it very extensive as your very shutdown and recovery will take time.

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Just wondering why the phytoserms on the second Half of the PCT and not the first?
 
For the remaining 4 weeks of the cyle blast hcg at 1000-2000 ius week. Then 3 days after last pin start pct.

PCT
Do one 100 mcg shot of triptorellin
(1-8)
Clomid 25 mg day
Postcycle/unleashed
Forma
Daa
Osta 25 mg day

(8-16)
Bridge
Daa
Phytoserms 347

I made it very extensive as your very shutdown and recovery will take time.

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I would almost agree with the above except I have to make a few changes. My set up would look like this

(1-8)
Postcycle/unleashed ( 1 cap of each spread out 3 times a day)
Forma ( 5 pumps am and pm the first 6 weeks, drop down to 3 am and 3 pm the last 2 weeks)
Daa ( full dose every day N2BM-DAA or Powerchews DAA both good)

1-6
Clomid 25 mg day (I would cut this at 6 weeks)
Rs-transaderm 5 pumps am and pm every day. This will take the place of the sarms help recovery a lot more hinder recovery a lot less.


8-12 I would add in a round of hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm
Daa ( same as above)
8-16 DAA ( same as above)
8-16 Triazole by Driven Sports ( I would recomend some slight estrogen reduction during this 2 weeks. This plus the phytoserm is perfect)
12-16
Phytoserms 347 ( 1 cap am 1 cap pm)

Still A total of 16 week pct with a few changes. You may also Run ether Growth hormones 3ius a day during this entire time or you can opt for GHRP-2 100ius am and pm and CJC596 100ius am and pm
I would also recommend weeks 1-6 or throughout the entire pct running Need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day and keep your calories high but clean during pct. :rose:
 
I would almost agree with the above except I have to make a few changes. My set up would look like this

(1-8)
Postcycle/unleashed ( 1 cap of each spread out 3 times a day)
Forma ( 5 pumps am and pm the first 6 weeks, drop down to 3 am and 3 pm the last 2 weeks)
Daa ( full dose every day N2BM-DAA or Powerchews DAA both good)

1-6
Clomid 25 mg day (I would cut this at 6 weeks)
Rs-transaderm 5 pumps am and pm every day. This will take the place of the sarms help recovery a lot more hinder recovery a lot less.


8-12 I would add in a round of hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm
Daa ( same as above)
8-16 DAA ( same as above)
8-16 Triazole by Driven Sports ( I would recomend some slight estrogen reduction during this 2 weeks. This plus the phytoserm is perfect)
12-16
Phytoserms 347 ( 1 cap am 1 cap pm)

Still A total of 16 week pct with a few changes. You may also Run ether Growth hormones 3ius a day during this entire time or you can opt for GHRP-2 100ius am and pm and CJC596 100ius am and pm
I would also recommend weeks 1-6 or throughout the entire pct running Need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day and keep your calories high but clean during pct. :rose:

So you recommend rs transaderm over phytoserms in pct at first?


You dont recommend doing 1 shot of triptorelin ? In the beggining of PCT?

I will do HGH after my pct.Ive found a good source of hygetropin.
I have a torn labrum.. I will use it after I get my surgery to speed recovery up. I could run low dose throughout pct but I want my receptors fresh for post surgery.

Ive never done GH before.. It doesn't shut you down like AAS and you get no sides? It sounds too be good to be true.


Reporting in on HCG use: I've pinned 3 500 ius and the boys are waking up. They seem fuller in size. I also have a slight increase in libido. I had really good energy in the gym today. Things are looking good. Excited to come off for good.
 
Unleashed/PC is still out of stock .I need these items within two weeks. I will have to lean towards bridge and hcgenerate if i cant get my hands on em.
 
Unleashed/PC is still out of stock .I need these items within two weeks. I will have to lean towards bridge and hcgenerate if i cant get my hands on em.

Postcycle is in stock so Id get that. Since unleashed is out of stock Id pick up enough proviron to last 4 weeks and run that in its place. Then when unleashed comes back load up on it. Then you can swap them out and finish with unleashed.

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Postcycle is in stock so Id get that. Since unleashed is out of stock Id pick up enough proviron to last 4 weeks and run that in its place. Then when unleashed comes back load up on it. Then you can swap them out and finish with unleashed.

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The 3-4 divan in forged post cycle is plenty strong enough to lower shbg and raise free test... In fact

Forged Post Cycle utilizes 95% pure extract, the highest percentage available today, of a lignan contained in nettle root called 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran has a very strong binding affinity to SHBG, making it next to impossible for SHBG to bind with testosterone. It’s a known fact that SHBG is at its highest at the end of most hormone cycles. So lowering it would only seem intelligent. 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran's binding affinity makes every ounce of test in your body count post cycle.

Interaction of lignans with human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).
Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.
Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universitat Bayreuth, Germany.

Lignans bind to sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG). The lignan with the highest binding affinity is (+/ )-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. In a double Stobbe condensation--without use of protecting groups--a wide variety of lignans with different substitution pattern in the aromatic and aliphatic part of the molecule was synthesized. These lignans were tested in a SHBG-binding assay which allowed to deduce the following relationship between structure and activity: 1) (+/-)-diastereoisomers are more active than meso compounds 2.) the 4-hydroxy-3-methoxy (guajacyl) substitution pattern in the aromatic part is most effective 3.) the activity increases with the decline in polarity of the aliphatic part of the molecule.

Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).
Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.
Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universitat Bayreuth, Germany.

Polar extracts of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) roots contain the ligans (+)-neoolivil, (-) secoisolariciresinol, dehydrodiconiferyl alcohol, isolariciresinol, pinoresinol, and 3,4 divanillyltetrahydrofuran. These compounds were either isolated from Urtica roots, or obtained semisynthetically. Their affinity to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was tested in an in vitro assay. In addition, the main intestinal transformation products of plant lignans in humans, enterodiol and enterolactone, together with enterofuran were checked for their activity. All lignans except (-) pinoresinol developed a binding affinity to SHBG in the in vitro assay. The affinity of (-)-3,4 divanillyltetrahydrofuran was outstandingly high These findings are discussed with respect to potential beneficial effects of plant lignans on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).

Forged Post Cycle Therapy - Post Cycle Therapy Supplements

We also use it in our hcgenerate too.
 
Postcycle is in stock so Id get that. Since unleashed is out of stock Id pick up enough proviron to last 4 weeks and run that in its place. Then when unleashed comes back load up on it. Then you can swap them out and finish with unleashed.



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You got me all confused now.. Isn't proviron an AA? I dont have time to run it at the end right now.



The 3-4 divan in forged post cycle is plenty strong enough to lower shbg and raise free test... In fact

Forged Post Cycle utilizes 95% pure extract, the highest percentage available today, of a lignan contained in nettle root called 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran has a very strong binding affinity to SHBG, making it next to impossible for SHBG to bind with testosterone. It’s a known fact that SHBG is at its highest at the end of most hormone cycles. So lowering it would only seem intelligent. 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran's binding affinity makes every ounce of test in your body count post cycle.

Interaction of lignans with human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).
Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.
Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universitat Bayreuth, Germany.

Lignans bind to sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG). The lignan with the highest binding affinity is (+/ )-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. In a double Stobbe condensation--without use of protecting groups--a wide variety of lignans with different substitution pattern in the aromatic and aliphatic part of the molecule was synthesized. These lignans were tested in a SHBG-binding assay which allowed to deduce the following relationship between structure and activity: 1) (+/-)-diastereoisomers are more active than meso compounds 2.) the 4-hydroxy-3-methoxy (guajacyl) substitution pattern in the aromatic part is most effective 3.) the activity increases with the decline in polarity of the aliphatic part of the molecule.

Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).
Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.
Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universitat Bayreuth, Germany.

Polar extracts of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) roots contain the ligans (+)-neoolivil, (-) secoisolariciresinol, dehydrodiconiferyl alcohol, isolariciresinol, pinoresinol, and 3,4 divanillyltetrahydrofuran. These compounds were either isolated from Urtica roots, or obtained semisynthetically. Their affinity to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was tested in an in vitro assay. In addition, the main intestinal transformation products of plant lignans in humans, enterodiol and enterolactone, together with enterofuran were checked for their activity. All lignans except (-) pinoresinol developed a binding affinity to SHBG in the in vitro assay. The affinity of (-)-3,4 divanillyltetrahydrofuran was outstandingly high These findings are discussed with respect to potential beneficial effects of plant lignans on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).



We also use it in our hcgenerate too.

So would you rather have me use forged instead of unleashed b/c its out of stock?

Im sorry for asking for many questions but all these products are new to me..The hcgenerate,bridge,unleashed,forge etc.. Im doing the best I can do learn about them So I can use it properly.
 
You got me all confused now.. Isn't proviron an AA? I dont have time to run it at the end right now.





So would you rather have me use forged instead of unleashed b/c its out of stock?

Im sorry for asking for many questions but all these products are new to me..The hcgenerate,bridge,unleashed,forge etc.. Im doing the best I can do learn about them So I can use it properly.

It is but its very mild and I use it if Im out of unleashed temporarily. If you dont have it accessible then postcycle will be fine. But when unleashed is in stock Id jump on it.

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