Arrgh! still confused about tren...

[Makavelli]

British Dragon Pharm. makes a parabolan. Its not called 'parabolan' but its the same esther, same product. I believe its called trenabol depot.

That's right. I forgot about that, it's new.

 

[roidpuple]

Theres also tren hexcarb-somehting-or-another (parobolan), but I think it still needs to be injected 2x a week. The problem w/ the longer acting tren esthers is that you need to sell all your personal possessions to be able to afford a cycles worth of the shit. Fina (tren acetate) is cheap!

well it may be cheeper .... but are you counting it for the hole cycle..
i mean you are giving your self 1mg ed or eod... that adds up....

If you look at how much you need for say a 10 week
cycle and the fact it only takes 2cc's per week of the
stuff compared to injecting 1cc ED for fina (tren act)
the price really is not all that different... Just figure it
out for yourself, i have along with a few others and it's
not that big a difference... You're just seeing the big
price and not thinking how long and how much less you
need of the tren ent compared to the tren act...

Well just so try to explain what i mean, the place i have
in mind that have both versions of tren powders charges
roughly 50% more per gram for tren enanthate, but you
only need 400-500mg per week were with the tren ent
where with tren act you should be injecting ED somewhere
around 75-100mg so you would need 500-700mg per week...

The tren enanthate builds to very high levels in your body
after the 2-3 week mark so it requires less hormone to get
the tren to very high levels in your body...

So doing the math which one is really more expensive?

And BTW the tren act powder is cheaper then if you
went and bought finaplix-h pellets when you figure out
the per gram price too... tren enanthate is just a better
choice and if you factor everything in cheaper as well...
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[envies]

if this guy has never done a cycle, should tren be the first compuond to use? why not start with test/winny? remember diet is more important than gear for losing weight.

btw, progessive labs has parabolan/tren ace/tren enan and a combo of all three, while being reasonably priced. The reviews have been good to say the least.

 

[artrius]

I've got a friend that's using the tren enanthate, just shooting 1x per week, I think @ either 250mg or 350mg (can't remember which) and he's having great results. Even if I do have to shoot it 2x per week, how much should I do? 2cc's/wk? What would be a low but effective dose?

Also, as for why I don't want to do test... once again, the same friend I have has done 4-5 cycles with test in it (not sure what else) and he said he had pretty heavy water gain. I definantly don't want that, nor do I want the other major sides he was mentioning. He said that tren had some sides, but not nearly as bad as test. Please correct this statement if it is incorrect.

I was gonna do winny tabs @ 50mg ed. I imagine injecting would be better. What would be a good dosage for that?

Thanks guys!

 

[Ulter]

Use 1cc every 4 days. Your friend is having great results shooting once a week but his body isn't liking it. His blood levels are on a roller coaster going up and down every week which is a great way to get sides like aggression, acne, high blood pressure, etc.

You are not your friend. Your results on test have nothing to do with his results. Using Tren without test is a terrible idea. Your body has many systems that NEED test. You are going to take it away from those systems if you don't add it back into your cycle. Getting by without it is not the same as keeping your body happy while you cycle. Use the test.

Not to flame you, but how can you have been on this board over two years and not know this?

 

[psychedout]

Tren acetate is painless. If you want to go with tren ent. then you still have to shoot twice a week. Parabolan is almost impossible to find, but it only needs to be shot once a week.

Not in my experience.

 

[artrius]

Use 1cc every 4 days. Your friend is having great results shooting once a week but his body isn't liking it. His blood levels are on a roller coaster going up and down every week which is a great way to get sides like aggression, acne, high blood pressure, etc.

You are not your friend. Your results on test have nothing to do with his results. Using Tren without test is a terrible idea. Your body has many systems that NEED test. You are going to take it away from those systems if you don't add it back into your cycle. Getting by without it is not the same as keeping your body happy while you cycle. Use the test.

Not to flame you, but how can you have been on this board over two years and not know this?

Well, I'll be on for a while and then leave for a while. Also, I have never really been in the roid forum, just in the diet/BB and powerlifting sections.

So you're saying that I should do a tren/test cycle instead? How would that impact the fatloss aspect?

 

[roidpuple]

I've got a friend that's using the tren enanthate, just shooting 1x per week, I think @ either 250mg or 350mg (can't remember which) and he's having great results. Even if I do have to shoot it 2x per week, how much should I do? 2cc's/wk? What would be a low but effective dose?

Also, as for why I don't want to do test... once again, the same friend I have has done 4-5 cycles with test in it (not sure what else) and he said he had pretty heavy water gain. I definantly don't want that, nor do I want the other major sides he was mentioning. He said that tren had some sides, but not nearly as bad as test. Please correct this statement if it is incorrect.

I was gonna do winny tabs @ 50mg ed. I imagine injecting would be better. What would be a good dosage for that?

Thanks guys!

Tren enth. 2cc a week would be pretty good. 1cc 2 times a week.. .. tren shuts you down pretty quick... effects everyone differently and at different rates... Most people love test...
and it will keep you from having a limp dick while on tren.... .. maybe 200 week of test.... would be fine...
if you take some nalva or clomid...or arimidex.. that will help with the bloat..
if you have much..rom the test.. but some do not have that much.. and other my have it alot... just depends on how much you use or if you are more prone to the water retentenion.... staying away from salt can help quite abit too...
...but the reason most do test while runny tren.. is because of the sides of tren..... so i would have to say tren has worse sides... cramping.. and limp dick....
winny 25-50mg oral will get good results...

 

[khemix]

In my personal opinion it's very unlikely that you're going to go from 19%bf to 7-9% in a single cycle. You should do some serious dieting before and while on. Good luck either way. My cycle is:
Tren Acet, 100mg/eod, 1-8wks
Test Enth, 750mg/wk, 1-10wks

Gained quite a bit of weight while dropping to the low 5% bf. When I started I was at the mid 6% I believe. I'm not cutting, only bulking, but the tren is working wonders for me. Keep your diet in close check and keep the cardio way up and who knows! Good luck!

Chris

 

[Ulter]

Like was posted. A simple 200mg a week will make a world of difference. In your cycle, your recovery, the delight with which you'll approach the opposite sex, assuming you like the opposite of course, and you'll just feel better. Never cycle without test. Throw your winny on top if you want.