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Arrgh! still confused about tren...

So let me make sure I understand this right... test+tren (preferably tren enanthate) but ditch the winny for a cutting cycle? Or should I keep the winny in?
 
artrius said:
So let me make sure I understand this right... test+tren (preferably tren enanthate) but ditch the winny for a cutting cycle? Or should I keep the winny in?

bro i have never tried it but soon will... many that have tried winny and tren together love it..... keep the winny.... but if you do tren and winny you are going to get shut down quick.... so you will have no sex drive???
that is a strange feeling.... you dont want it... so add in the test... to keep you acting like a man..
 
Ulter said:
Like was posted. A simple 200mg a week will make a world of difference. In your cycle, your recovery, the delight with which you'll approach the opposite sex, assuming you like the opposite of course, and you'll just feel better. Never cycle without test. Throw your winny on top if you want.

Oops, didn't see this. Ok, so here's what I'm thinking now:

8-10wks
test enan 200mg /wk
tren enan 1cc 2x/wk
50mg winny tabs ed

That sound like a good cycle? I'm sure I'll probably want to eat around 3k cals (maybe more? never been on the real stuff before). I lift 4-5x per week. Cardio varies, depending on PT with work.
 
Cool, I think I'll go with that. PCT... I've got a couple of bottles of 6oxo. I've read that I don't really need it on the winny, but what about the tren+test?
 
Ulter said:
Personally I would use more test. Like 500mg/wk. But you can certainly start with 200mg/wk and see what your water retention sides are like. Should be non-existant at that dose. Either way you should do very well with that.

ya i deffinitly agree will Ulter.... good luck on that man..sounds good...
 
artrius said:
Cool, I think I'll go with that. PCT... I've got a couple of bottles of 6oxo. I've read that I don't really need it on the winny, but what about the tren+test?
6 oxo ain't going to do shite for you.
You'll need HCG/nolva for the last week and then clomid for two weeks. Read the PCT forum as long as you're making the rounds here.
Good luck
 
I think I'll drop the winny @6 weeks instead of running it all the way through. This is looking like its gonna rack up quite a bill....
 
Ok, so I'm getting ready to order this stuff. Am I gonna be able to draw this stuff out of the bottle with a 25g needle? My buddy says he uses an 18g and then switches the needle to a 25g.

Also, where's a good place to get some needles?
 
Ok, I finally refound getpinz.com (couldn't remember the site name). What's the difference between the terumo and the b-d needles? And should I be injecting with 25g? or bigger?
 
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