Arnold presses for shoulder impingement

[Clubber Lang]

I have a shoulder impingement in my shoulder, it isn't too bad now but it can bother me once in a while. I was told that arnold presses are ALOT safer for you than dumbell shoulder presses because it puts less stress on your rotator cuff but still builds the front delt nicely. Is this ture?

What are your guys experiences with arnold presses?

1) Are they safer and less painful than dumbell shoulder presses if you suffer from shoulder impingement syndrome?

2) Are they an effective front delt building exercise?

 

[kingc_79]

how are they performed?

 

[eat big]

they may put less stress on the shoulders at the bottom of the rep, but you still have to push them up above your head like a normal press, my guess would be no dont do them

 

[gregory]

they may put less stress on the shoulders at the bottom of the rep, but you still have to push them up above your head like a normal press, my guess would be no dont do them

Right! And BTW they put more stress on your shoulders. That being said, you have to pick an excercise and perform it COLD, not warmed up and see if you feel the slightest pain. If you do that exercise is a no no. You have to find one that works 100% pain free when not warmed up. When you're warmed up a lot of small pains will be masked and you won't be aware of the damage you'll be doing.

I have learned that all overhead presses can be eliminated and you can still build shoulders just as well. Shoulder presses and benching are overrated IMO and cause more shoulder injuries and time off frokm the gym then any other exercise.

 

[kingc_79]

Right! And BTW they put more stress on your shoulders. That being said, you have to pick an excercise and perform it COLD, not warmed up and see if you feel the slightest pain. If you do that exercise is a no no. You have to find one that works 100% pain free when not warmed up. When you're warmed up a lot of small pains will be masked and you won't be aware of the damage you'll be doing.

I have learned that all overhead presses can be eliminated and you can still build shoulders just as well. Shoulder presses and benching are overrated IMO and cause more shoulder injuries and time off frokm the gym then any other exercise.

what would you advise to build shoulders if u take out all bench and ohp work?

 

[Clubber Lang]

I like seated dumbell front raises.

 

[eat big]

what would you advise to build shoulders if u take out all bench and ohp work?

upright rows, lateral raises, front raises, really destroy them and do drop sets etc, not sure if upright rows will hurt or not, they may

 

[gregory]

upright rows, lateral raises, front raises, really destroy them and do drop sets etc, not sure if upright rows will hurt or not, they may

Exactly what he said. Also add supersets.

 

[bignate73]

upright rows, lateral raises, front raises, really destroy them and do drop sets etc, not sure if upright rows will hurt or not, they may

upright rows are a no no for shoulder impingement.

also, how quickly will you plateau if you are doing isolation movements? compounds offer a greater potential for overload, distribute the specific weight between muscles and are more functional.

since this tends to be a BB board people tend to break things up by bodypart, and they get off track from the basics which build the foundations.

 

[eat big]

upright rows are a no no for shoulder impingement.

also, how quickly will you plateau if you are doing isolation movements? compounds offer a greater potential for overload, distribute the specific weight between muscles and are more functional.

since this tends to be a BB board people tend to break things up by bodypart, and they get off track from the basics which build the foundations.

yeah i thought i may have heard that upright rows cant be good but i wasnt 100% sure....but how will he do pressing movements if he has an impingement?

 

[Scotsman]

Arnold presses are great I used to do them all the time when I was bodybuilding. Just be careful as they aren't a heavy weight exercise. Arnold only went up to like the 65's on them. I got to a point where I was doing them with 90's and did hurt my right shoulder. So in otherwords stay light-medium and make sure you aren't feeling any pain in the joint before, during, or after.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[kingc_79]

some good replies but for me upright rows hurt like a mofo and lateral or front raises are no replacement for ohp's for me anyways....just dont add the size as easily. if i already had big shoulders they would probably work better

 

[gregory]

upright rows are a no no for shoulder impingement.

also, how quickly will you plateau if you are doing isolation movements? compounds offer a greater potential for overload, distribute the specific weight between muscles and are more functional.

since this tends to be a BB board people tend to break things up by bodypart, and they get off track from the basics which build the foundations.

This is a generalization. Upright rows are good it just matters how you perform them. There's the issue of grip width, elbow and wrist positioning to adjust to your specific condition. Currently i have a badly strained front delt and the whole shoulder girdle hurts, but i can do upright rows in a very specific form, this lets me blast my shoulders as much as i want pain free. So it all comes down to the form.

 

[coolcolj]

how about you fix yout shoulder up first? Then you can do any exercise you want

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

I'm currently healing my shoulder. I've got impingement as well. My doc gave me a cortisone injection on Tuesday. I won't be able to do upper body for another 5-6 weeks probably. My shoulder hurt for 4 years and I trained through the pain. Inclines and upright rows hurt like a motherfucker but I would still persist with them. Eventually it got so bad that I hated going to the gym. At that point I decided it was a good idea to get aggressive about treating it. My suggestion is rest, phys therapy, and then see an orthopod if it still doesn't get better.