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Arnold has bad squat form.

skyflyer231

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Watch Pumping Iron. The scene where Arnie and Ed Corney ard doing squats. Ed's are decent. Arnold's are bad because he leans forward, and goes like 1/3 of the way down!!!

Haha. He's still the man though.
 
Back in the day his legs were on par, but they didnt emphasize legs as much as they do now. But to actually put articles in modern magazines that have ANYTHING to do with Arnold and legs is fucking retarded. Arnold was the man back in the day, he basically brought bodybuilding into the mainstream more, but Arnold had weak points for sure. His delts, forearms and quads were all weak points.
 
I think Ed has better form than Arnie because Ed is about 5'7 and Arnold is 6'2. I know I lean fwd a lil and I'm close to 6'5. Even the once great mod Spatts couldn't get my form perfectly upright. Infact, I injured my knee that way. Tall guys will have a little lean. It hasn't hurt my developement any, I started with 21inch thighs and now well over 34. I think I'll keep my knee healthy, stay away from a$$ to ground and keep a lil leaning fwd. Now if you are an ankle biter, thats a whole other story, get your @$$ in that rack and go up and down like a piston! LOL :p

As for his developement, ugly tree trunks weren't in style then. Athletic thighs with huge calf developement was the ideal. Infact the whole bbing world was about building the Greek ideal back then. I hope this answer helps.
 
Using wraps for 315 was pretty pathetic tho. I suppose if squatting e3d like he said in his book that would explain that. I always assumed his routine in the book was bullshit to throw others off. I mean maybe twice a week, but come on, 3 times. Thats a bit much.
 
galaxy said:
Using wraps for 315 was pretty pathetic tho. I suppose if squatting e3d like he said in his book that would explain that. I always assumed his routine in the book was bullshit to throw others off. I mean maybe twice a week, but come on, 3 times. Thats a bit much.
From "Education Of A Bodybuilder"?
I seem to remember (I might be wrong) that Arnold did a 3 day split, twice a week, with Sundays off. Twice a week is a bit much IMO.
Yes, Arnold being taller than average might explain the forward lean.
 
galaxy said:
Using wraps for 315 was pretty pathetic tho. I suppose if squatting e3d like he said in his book that would explain that. I always assumed his routine in the book was bullshit to throw others off. I mean maybe twice a week, but come on, 3 times. Thats a bit much.



that what I always assumed too!

the routine his espoused is and will ways be ridiculous
 
skyflyer231 said:
You shouldn't give people the wrong ADVICES. Hahaha

here's some good ADVICE! your grammar sucks and you shouldn't say wrong advices moron.

chances are arnold could crush your head with his quads.. just saying..

also maybe you should listen to some good ADVICE! (no S, that's for retards)
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
From "Education Of A Bodybuilder"?
I seem to remember (I might be wrong) that Arnold did a 3 day split, twice a week, with Sundays off. Twice a week is a bit much IMO.
Yes, Arnold being taller than average might explain the forward lean.


6 days a week

day 1 Chest and Back
day 2 Arms and Delts
day 3 Legs
repeat
repeat
repeat
OFF

he said he did abs every day and somtimes calves too

once I saw he did arms and delts after back and chest day i knew the routine was full of shit
 
abolish the weak said:
Back in the day his legs were on par, but they didnt emphasize legs as much as they do now. But to actually put articles in modern magazines that have ANYTHING to do with Arnold and legs is fucking retarded. Arnold was the man back in the day, he basically brought bodybuilding into the mainstream more, but Arnold had weak points for sure. His delts, forearms and quads were all weak points.

Delts weak?????
 
His delts being weak actually helped him tho. Gave his arms more illusion of size. And by weak Im talking by todays bowling ball standards. Hell I even have bigger shoulders than Arnold.

He just had the package. One of illusion. Incredibly small joints, wrists measuring under 7"(which is crazy small)...And all these small measurement to go with height.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
here's some good ADVICE! your grammar sucks and you shouldn't say wrong advices moron.

chances are arnold could crush your head with his quads.. just saying..

also maybe you should listen to some good ADVICE! (no S, that's for retards)

Why are you ragging on him? His grammor may have been wrong but he was absolutely right.

OMEGA was right about not going below parallel.
 
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FriendlyCanadian said:
here's some good ADVICE! your grammar sucks and you shouldn't say wrong advices moron.

chances are arnold could crush your head with his quads.. just saying..

also maybe you should listen to some good ADVICE! (no S, that's for retards)

LOL @ Grammar. That line is from the movie Pumping iron. Now don't you feel like a jerk? :heart:
 
c3bodybuilding said:
As for his developement, ugly tree trunks weren't in style then. Athletic thighs with huge calf developement was the ideal. Infact the whole bbing world was about building the Greek ideal back then. I hope this answer helps.

You're partly right. However even his buddies at the time made fun of him for having small legs. I think it was in 'Raw Iron- The Making of Pumping Iron' someone said to him "Don't worry. They won't look at your legs." Or something along those lines and they all laughed at him.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
here's some good ADVICE! your grammar sucks and you shouldn't say wrong advices moron.

chances are arnold could crush your head with his quads.. just saying..

also maybe you should listen to some good ADVICE! (no S, that's for retards)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! This response is funny on so many levels
 
Arnold legs are nothing compared to the bodybuilders nowadays...in his early days, Arnold had week lagging calves...thats why he used to take most of his pictures in water - to cover his calves...but then again, legs weren't really that big back then I guess...the front thigh abs pose was just a show of thighs with the stomach as a vaccume...lol
 
skyflyer231 said:
Watch Pumping Iron. The scene where Arnie and Ed Corney ard doing squats. Ed's are decent. Arnold's are bad because he leans forward, and goes like 1/3 of the way down!!!

Haha. He's still the man though.

If you think Arnold's squat form wasn't great, check out Lee Haney's squats on his training video. He doesn't go anywhere near parallel.
 
Arnolds height is a myth!!! Maybe he shrunk from old age but I was just at the Arnold Classic a few weeks ago. I'm 6'1 and honestly I seemed to be taller than him. No one can prove his actual height. I've seen anywhere from 6-6'3 on the net.
 
sopac said:
Arnolds height is a myth!!! Maybe he shrunk from old age but I was just at the Arnold Classic a few weeks ago. I'm 6'1 and honestly I seemed to be taller than him. No one can prove his actual height. I've seen anywhere from 6-6'3 on the net.

Here's a detailed discussion about Arnold's height:

Arnold's Height
 
djeclipse said:
Why are you ragging on him? His grammor may have been wrong but he was absolutely right.

OMEGA was right about not going below parallel.

Are you guys kidding about that not going below parallel stuff?

Please tell me you are kidding.
 
I have different squat styles depending on the weight I am using. If it's more than 315 I will not break parallel. If it's 315 or less it's hams to my calves for depth, and the reps are executed much slower and the contraction is harder. Once a month or so I'll only use 315 and do 4 or 5 sets of 15-20, very slow and deep. This is twice as hard to me as using 500lbs is.
 
This is what arnold wrote in Widers magazine about his squats and explained that he did half squats and other varieties for better shape and cuts..

The full squat, all the way down and all the way up, has the advantage of working a lot of other body parts besides the thighs; like back, glutes and chest. They certainly developed the lumbar muscles of my lower back, That was a terrific advantage. The disadvantage was that 50 percent of the effort worked my thighs, and at least 30 percent worked my glutes. I found that the first third of the movement of coming up from a full squat worked my glutes. The final two-thirds of the movement worked the entire thigh, but no particular part. So, what happened was my rear got big, and my thighs got bulky and shapeless. Nether of these two effects served my purpose for bodybuilding.
:evil:

cheers,
Biglee
http://biglee-murali.blogspot.com
 
redguru said:
So you prefer stressing the knee joint by using it as an eccentric brake?


if one is aware of their form and conscious of their rep cadence and speed,
I would honestly say that My version of sqauting is Much safer and more effective then your full squats

every project member hase never gone back once they find out the way I train legs
 
I do both squats to parallel then ass to heal squats .

Doing to parallel or just above like omega mentions really works the shit out of the thighs.

Going deep really works more of your ass.
We all saw what happened to Tom plats sure he had huge thighs but if you look at him from behind at a distance he also had one of the biggest asses on stage.

As for arnold's squats .Arnold just broke his leg 9 months before the movie was shot. Arnold was guest posing and a platform fell apart on stage and arnold took a masive fall and broke his femur.
This explains why arnolds legs looked great in 1974 but then for 1975 were lagging behind bit.

many guys have no idea what a squat is or even how to do one, or the variations.I actually seen alot of guys almost combine a good morning and a squat together. luanching up with their ass and throwing their lower back into a arch to try and get the weight up.
Squats are a excersize that can be done many way or variations Everyone is different .
For me front squats work the best for quads isolation ,but reg squats are great for building over all strenght

reg squats bodybuilder style (isolation)
squats powerlifter style(more of a full body movement)
board under heel squats
closed legged squats (legs held close to togther)
wide stance squats
sumo stance squats(wider stance toes out)
front squats
overhead squats
hack squats
sissy squats
olympic quats
chained squats
dumbell squats
plie squat
on legged squat
wall squats
chair squats
hinu squats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO91Ldw3FOo&feature=related

Arnold was prob just burning out his quads . In his book I rember him explaining the diff types of squats or atleast half a dozen of them.
then explaining how to do each
 
heh! this is crap! arnie doing half squats without a box would explain why he was squatting 3 plates.... that's half ass for a Mr O legend innit?
 
bigleemurali said:
This is what arnold wrote in Widers magazine about his squats and explained that he did half squats and other varieties for better shape and cuts..

The full squat, all the way down and all the way up, has the advantage of working a lot of other body parts besides the thighs; like back, glutes and chest. They certainly developed the lumbar muscles of my lower back, That was a terrific advantage. The disadvantage was that 50 percent of the effort worked my thighs, and at least 30 percent worked my glutes. I found that the first third of the movement of coming up from a full squat worked my glutes. The final two-thirds of the movement worked the entire thigh, but no particular part. So, what happened was my rear got big, and my thighs got bulky and shapeless. Nether of these two effects served my purpose for bodybuilding.
:evil:

This commentary by Arnold was well thought out and makes perfect sense. Too many people blindly follow tradition, and too many people are fixated on doing very deep squats to the detriment of their physiques.

People who concentrate on deep squats all day often end up with tree-trunks for legs and huge asses. Often their hamstrings look too small in comparison to the size of their ass and quads.

I've noticed a lot of professional bodybuilders these days don't concentrate on barbell back squats. They may do them, but it's only an additional exercise rather than the main part of their quad workout.
 
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