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now i pretty much got the bug outta me
but this one career field caught my attention, combat engineer
i like the mix of engineering/construction along with infantry duty
what more can you tell me about this job?
do combat engineers work side by side with infantry or do they follow?
k to all who help
chef-bone/cob i could use your input
 
COB-MAN help a brotha out
 
Great MOS! You get to do some of your "engineering" with C-4 and plastiques! Plus learn to operate heavy equipement, etc. Be advised you have the possibility of going in places very early in the game with little support....maybe just an A-Team. Then again you could be running a frontloader at a sanitation site in Iraq.
 
SF engineers are a part of a team (there are two in a team) but you need to go through Q course / SF Selection for that. Going straight in you can go for 18X but the majority of the team members I know complain about the new guys coming straight into SF.

I assume you mean a normal engineer which is a 21B. I was infantry for the majority of my military career and the engineers would dig holes and stick up constantine wire for us and operate heavy equipment. It is not like you will be working side by side with infantry per se. Typically our fighting positions or the wire would be set up before we got there so we never saw the engineers all that much.
 
Your ASVAB score will determine your "job" under the specific MOS. Assuming that you are wanting to be with the Infantry and your score is where it needs to be, your unit can be attached to Infantry units and could be doing everything from building temp. bridges and roads for additional troops and/or supplies to move through and over, to demolition of buildings and obstructions (This can also mean creating obstacles, trenches and such to slow opposing forces down or guide them in specific directions.), to laying and/or clearing mines, etc...
Combat engineers help ground troops to advance, which means you will be somewhere before anyone else with little to moderate support and will be expected to clear an area by fire, right next to the Infantry to complete your job as some missions can be to negotiate occupied structures and/or areas. Combat Engineers are trained as Infantry a bit moreso than other MOS's that just get a taste in basic.

Or you could choke on the test and drive a tractor.
 
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justinjones1963 said:
SF engineers are a part of a team (there are two in a team) but you need to go through Q course / SF Selection for that. Going straight in you can go for 18X but the majority of the team members I know complain about the new guys coming straight into SF.

I assume you mean a normal engineer which is a 21B. I was infantry for the majority of my military career and the engineers would dig holes and stick up constantine wire for us and operate heavy equipment. It is not like you will be working side by side with infantry per se. Typically our fighting positions or the wire would be set up before we got there so we never saw the engineers all that much.
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Agreed, there are diff levels to each MOS, and again, how smart Uncle Sam thinks you are via the ASVAB, will determine where you are placed.

I was SF for my duration and we rarely saw the "engineers" outside of our own squads. But in that case we are all crosstrained with each having a "specialized" job. However, dependent upon the circumstances, we had to act as escorts into specific areas that needed small arms support on many occasions. And the engineers were part of the gameplan should we take fire/encounter resistance.
 
the Wehrmacht "Pioniere" battallions inspiredother armies to develop their own combat engineers battallions

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good shit guys
yeah 21b, combat engineer
not sf
scored a 87 on my practice asvab
could proly score higher with a little math brush up
 
Gambino said:
good shit guys
yeah 21b, combat engineer
not sf
scored a 87 on my practice asvab
could proly score higher with a little math brush up
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Yeah, at 87, with a little brush-up you'll hit the 90 percentile no prob. which should open plenty of doors for ya!
 
gotmojo said:
Yeah, at 87, with a little brush-up you'll hit the 90 percentile no prob. which should open plenty of doors for ya!
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i think you only need a 75 to go 21b
stupid question but would 21b soliders have a similar casuality rate as infantry?
 
Gambino said:
i think you only need a 75 to go 21b
stupid question but would 21b soliders have a similar casuality rate as infantry?
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Your score can affect other things down the road as far as going to MOS specific "schools" and so on which in turn can affect promotability, so it's great that you are scoring that high.

Can be hard to say and depenent upon location. I have read that in Iraq a forward "Batallion" had a 1% casualty and a 15% wounded rate. However, another Combat Engineering "Company" suffered a 25% casualty rate.

"Starting out with 100 men, the engineering company was assigned to patrol the perimeter of a large U.S. military base in Balad, in the so-called Sunni Triangle north of Baghdad.

One out of four Alpha Company soldiers was killed or wounded in the yearlong tour."

Which is one of the highest casualty rates so far. But location had everything to do with it. Not to mention that as support, this Co. was orderd to "patrol" an occupied area when they weren't prepared to do so. But those things can and do happen more often than is known.
 
one outta 4 damn
i assume a 21b enlistment is a ticket to the desert
 
Gambino said:
one outta 4 damn
i assume a 21b enlistment is a ticket to the desert
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Honestly, there aren't many MOS's that aren't tickets there due to waves of soldiers coming home after tour right now.
 
gotmojo said:
Honestly, there aren't many MOS's that aren't tickets there due to waves of soldiers coming home after tour right now.
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i have a construction background and the recruiter was trying to get me to join a bridge building MOS.
his lure was that their was no bridges being built in a desert and proly wouldn't be deployed.
but that seems to boring, don't know if i'd like it
 
Gambino said:
now i pretty much got the bug outta me
but this one career field caught my attention, combat engineer
i like the mix of engineering/construction along with infantry duty
what more can you tell me about this job?
do combat engineers work side by side with infantry or do they follow?
k to all who help
chef-bone/cob i could use your input
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that m.o.s is to suck bro.you will not learn how to bild shit.

what you want is forword observatoin.ya first man on the seen.lol
 
needtogetas said:
that m.o.s is to suck bro.you will not learn how to bild shit.

what you want is forword observatoin.ya first man on the seen.lol
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sounds real fun
and it would be






















if their wasn't a war going on
 
If you are worried about having to go fight then the military is not your gig bro! I don't care how peaceful the world seems at any given time a 4 year enlistment covers a lot of time and the world can change dramatically in hours (as 9-11 demonstrated!)
 
medical said:
If you are worried about having to go fight then the military is not your gig bro! I don't care how peaceful the world seems at any given time a 4 year enlistment covers a lot of time and the world can change dramatically in hours (as 9-11 demonstrated!)
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agreed
joing the army during a war, though, does take a bit more thought
 
sure you'll be trained

but like you said - don't be surprised if you're doing guard duty, patrols, convoys, etc.

if that's what u want, and dying for iraqi's is in your game - go for it.

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medical said:
If you are worried about having to go fight then the military is not your gig bro! I don't care how peaceful the world seems at any given time a 4 year enlistment covers a lot of time and the world can change dramatically in hours (as 9-11 demonstrated!)
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lmao right.I was in a.i.t when the bomb sirens when off from the plan hitting the pentagon.when I joind I was like war lol ya right.then when the sirens when off and they told us all what was going on I was like "fuck here we go".still I did not end up in iraq till 3 years latter.
 
tomorrow I'm burying a 19yr old young man
82nd airborne
as you can imagine it's a big deal and I haven't mentioned it before here
let's keep it on this thread
 
4everhung said:
tomorrow I'm burying a 19yr old young man
82nd airborne
as you can imagine it's a big deal and I haven't mentioned it before here
let's keep it on this thread
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well hates off to that young man.I hope he has a big feast,a bear and a hot girl right now in heaven.
 
4everhung said:
tomorrow I'm burying a 19yr old young man
82nd airborne
as you can imagine it's a big deal and I haven't mentioned it before here
let's keep it on this thread
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damn
rio
 
needtogetas said:
well hates off to that young man.I hope he has a big feast,a bear and a hot girl right now in heaven.
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well I know his mother
and he has a wife who is 5 months pregnant
we had the visitation last night in the high school gymnasium
he was the QB for the team in 2004 that lost the state championship game to Hoover high school(the team featured on MTV recently)
of course we have 82nd rangers as an honor guard and the division general and other high-ups will be here to today,senators etc.
one of the honor guard road with me in the hearse to the school yesterday and I chatted with him about casualty rates in the division
he mentioned around 5-6 or so in his battalion(KIA) in the past year,not including the 2-3 killed in mid-october
 
3-5 die a day - so keep that in mind if u wish to be army/marines and be a combat-mos. they'll sign your ass up quickly.
 
Razorguns said:
3-5 die a day - so keep that in mind if u wish to be army/marines and be a combat-mos. they'll sign your ass up quickly.
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what did you join? army or military?
what is your job?
have you gone thru basic yet?
 
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