Are steroids 4 me?

[kkfan]

hi every1,
thot to take ur view,on whether shud i take roids or not.
i m 29, 5ft9", 145lb.bodyfat approx16%,my freeT as per bloodwork was 6.9.
i try and eat 5-6 meals a day, my most of protein comes from eggs (6 whole eggs a day) and whey(atleast 5scoops a day).since i m vegetarian i dont eat meat or fish
carbs from veggies, oats,rice,potato,
fats from nuts(almonds+walnuts), fish oil capsules.
i workout 4 days in gym,2 days cardio.
if at all i think of taking roids, i wud opt for Test-E 250mg /week for 8 weeks .

pls guide me with ur valuable suggestions,

regards,
kkfan

 

[stevesmi]

your bf% or your weight is not accurate. 5 9 and 145 pounds with 16% bf is very very odd.

also you didn't say what your goals are. if you want to bulk up then YOU ARE DEF NOT ready for steroids yet. you can put on 30 pounds working your tail off in the weight room, eating tons of food, and packing 2X ur bw in protein. assuming the weight you listed is accurate of course.

you can get away with not eating meat or fish but it is just gonna be harder. I dont eat much 'meat' myself and I eat no red meat whatsoever.. but I do eat goat yogurt, fish, eggs, and organic chicken. and I drink A LOT of protein shakes and bars.

 

[rambleon]

Hi kkfan

Been awhile.

I still think adjusting diet is the way to go for u. U might cut down on the cardio in the initial phase as well.

 

[kkfan]

thx guys...
actually i miscalculated my weight ,its 158 lbs...sorry steve
anyways lets wait and leave it to diet and workout ...but i m afraid of fat which i put on belly due to bulking diet (which i m already experiencing)
and rambleon its nice to see ur reply bro !
thx 4 ur reviews steve and thatbloke .

 

[Ross]

thx guys...
actually i miscalculated my weight ,its 158 lbs...sorry steve
anyways lets wait and leave it to diet and workout ...but i m afraid of fat which i put on belly due to bulking diet (which i m already experiencing)
and rambleon its nice to see ur reply bro !
thx 4 ur reviews steve and thatbloke .

How long have you been training naturally? What are your lifts on bench, shoulder press, , bicep curls, pulldowns and squats?

 

[WinnyPumps]

5'9'' 145lbs?? No way you are ready for a cycle. You need to consistently eat 4-5 solid meals a day and lift heavy 3-4 days a week and there is no doubt you will grow. There is no way 145lbs is your natural genetic limit.

 

[Ezekiel]

hi every1,
thot to take ur view,on whether shud i take roids or not.
i m 29, 5ft9", 145lb.bodyfat approx16%,my freeT as per bloodwork was 6.9.
i try and eat 5-6 meals a day, my most of protein comes from eggs (6 whole eggs a day) and whey(atleast 5scoops a day).since i m vegetarian i dont eat meat or fish
carbs from veggies, oats,rice,potato,
fats from nuts(almonds+walnuts), fish oil capsules.
i workout 4 days in gym,2 days cardio.
if at all i think of taking roids, i wud opt for Test-E 250mg /week for 8 weeks .

pls guide me with ur valuable suggestions,

regards,
kkfan

If you have to ask, then...no!

I would work on your diet and your lifting bro.. How old are you and how long have you been lifting?

you don't eat meat... That might make it hard to get enough protien... However, there is another bro on here I think that doesn't eat meat either, perhaps he'll see this post and chime in..

Ok, your going to want to take in at least 170 gm. of protien a day bro!! That's a allot of soy .. Better stock up on Needto's protien bars.. Eggs and 5 scoops of potien a day isn't nearly enough, unless each scoop is 25gm or protien and you take it everyday, 7 days a wk.!

Good Luck!

 

[kkfan]

hi ross,
i hv been training from 2.5yrs, i benchpress 100lbs (50 lb each side) max 5 reps, shoulder press 30lb each ,10rep., bicep curls 30lb ,10rep....pulldown 100lb 8 reps....squats 60lbs each side 10 reps.
i know its not a power workout ,but then its me !
kkfan

 

[Nelson Montana]

Pointless. At your weight, you'll just lose it all. You need to put on some natural beef first. Training, diet, supps. Then roids.

 

[kkfan]

thx winny, ezekiel.
i take ON whey gold 100%whey ,it has 24 gm protein as per label.
and shud i take SOY,coz i heard it lowers testosterone ,might b a myth !
pls guide
kk

 

[Ezekiel]

thx winny, ezekiel.
i take ON whey gold 100%whey ,it has 24 gm protein as per label.
and shud i take SOY,coz i heard it lowers testosterone ,might b a myth !
pls guide
kk

The soy was just a joke...

How about you post up your routine for lifting and let us tweak it a bit... Help you w/ diet and I bet in 8 wks you pack on some muscle big time...

 

[kkfan]

eze , thx mate.
following is my workout schedule
mon : chest shoulders
tue :cardio
wed back ,triceps
thu : cardio
fri :biceps
sat legs
sun : rest
and diet follows as below
2eggs raw, on wakeup i.e 5.30 am
1scoop whey +1scoop cooked oats pre workout
2scoops whey + 2scoops cooked oats post workout
breakfast :2egg omlette ,2 slice brown bread with peanut butter+nuts
pre lunch 1sccop whey +oats +nuts
lunch :mostly veggies,pulses,rice+2 raw eggs
evening snack 1 whey +oats+nuts
dinner: similiar to lunch bur less carbs.
thats my routine...and on cardio day i dont take preworkout shake, post cardio only 1scoop whey along with b'fast.

kk

 

[Ezekiel]

eze , thx mate.
following is my workout schedule
mon : chest shoulders
tue :cardio
wed back ,triceps
thu : cardio
fri :biceps
sat legs
sun : rest
and diet follows as below
2eggs raw, on wakeup i.e 5.30 am
1scoop whey +1scoop cooked oats pre workout
2scoops whey + 2scoops cooked oats post workout
breakfast :2egg omlette ,2 slice brown bread with peanut butter+nuts
pre lunch 1sccop whey +oats +nuts
lunch :mostly veggies,pulses,rice+2 raw eggs
evening snack 1 whey +oats+nuts
dinner: similiar to lunch bur less carbs.
thats my routine...and on cardio day i dont take preworkout shake, post cardio only 1scoop whey along with b'fast.

kk

Ok, hopefully other will chime in here and between all of us you will get a workout that makes sense..

i myslef wouldn't do sholders the same day as chest. Reason being, is that your triceps will be fairly burnt out from all the pressing and will hinder many of your shoulder work..

Here's what my wk looks like..

Mon: AM - Shoulders and Traps -PM teach MMA Classes
Tues. AM - Chest & Bicep
Wed. AM - Core & Deads -PM teach Class
Thurs. AM - Legs
Fri. Back and Tricep

For large muscles (chest, back, quads, shoulders) I go 4 sets of 10 reps max. If I can do ten on my last set I add weight the next tims.
For small muscles (bi, tri, calves, etc) I do 3 sets w/ 4 reps of 10. again adding weight if I can do 10 reps on last set.

I used to do 6-8 reps, but I found for myself that I got better results going to 10.. everyone is different.

Food Looks like this:
6:30am Protien Shake and Oats
8:30 Protien shake and snack
9:30 Chicken or Tuna
11:00 Protien shake
1:00pm Lunch - Chicken etc.
3:00pm protien shake
6:00pm Dinner - lean meat, wild rice etc.(Steak or fish)
8:00pm ish.. Low carb chocolate haha...

I also drink about 2 gallons of water a day too..

Again, ideally others will chip in what works for them..


Blessings,

 

[stevesmi]

consider Casein instead of whey.. its more expensive but its better.

 

[Snyrx7]

^ better at different times. I love my cassein, but always keep whey for after my workout.

 

[Ezekiel]

consider Casein instead of whey.. its more expensive but its better.

Given the amount he has to take due to the fact the he is a vegitarian, the Casein would be fairly cost prohibative.

 

[gainmore]

hi ross,
i hv been training from 2.5yrs, i benchpress 100lbs (50 lb each side) max 5 reps, shoulder press 30lb each ,10rep., bicep curls 30lb ,10rep....pulldown 100lb 8 reps....squats 60lbs each side 10 reps.
i know its not a power workout ,but then its me !
kkfan

I dont really believe this....Sorry....Your training 2.5 years. I call BS.

 

[RADAR]

hi ross,
i hv been training from 2.5yrs, i benchpress 100lbs (50 lb each side) max 5 reps, shoulder press 30lb each ,10rep., bicep curls 30lb ,10rep....pulldown 100lb 8 reps....squats 60lbs each side 10 reps.
i know its not a power workout ,but then its me !
kkfan

Do What???? I would get a blood test done,after 2 .5 yrs training you either have a hormonal deficency,or you're not pushing your self hard in the gym or either exercising improperly.

 

[kkfan]

ok guys. i will try to up my protein by increasing 2eggs and 2scoops of whey per day.
but do u think ,the protein i get from shakes will b good enuf to build muscles as compared to natural food?
and what bot the body fat i tend to gain when on bulking diet as me being an endomorph.
and do u also think i shud continue my diet the way i have mentioned above.
pls comment
kk

 

[dhaj]

Hi, not sure if its an option, but consider getting a good workout partner. It will push you harder which you need. add more calories. eat 3-4 meals a day to bulk up for size and strength (limit your cardio during bulking. 20min 2x week). I consider a meal anytime you intake calories, no matter the size. after your initial bulking goals are reached, go to 6-7 meals a day to lean up.

Workout:

day1: chest/triceps/core
day2: back/biceps
day3: legs
day4: shoulders/core

This is a very basic routine/diet and will work well for several months.

 

[kkfan]

radar ,
what shud be ideal "free T level" for an 29 yr healthy male.like me
and also i have started this diet since last 1month odd ,and gained abt 9lbs ,
prior to that i had very poor diet ,no eggs,no oats, only whey shakes.and normal food but dint gained in that routine.
and what shud be ideal weight / body fat % before injecting roids.
comments wud b appreciated
kk

 

[Ezekiel]

I dont really believe this....Sorry....Your training 2.5 years. I call BS.

Bro, it's not your case to call anything! There are many midigating factors at play... Genetics being a major one... If you have something to contribute then plz do, if not shhhh...

You onely have 14 posts here so you might want to contribute a bit more, before calling ppl out.. That's NOT what we're here to do m8....

 

[stevesmi]

would like to see you push more to gain strength.

I am assuming when you say 100 pounds of weights on your bench you are meaning 100 pounds + 45 for the bar. so benching 145 which is less then you weigh

you have to work on that... a buddy of mine can do 15 pullups and is strong with the row machine and can do 50+ pushups but can only bench 100 pounds max. simply cause he hasn't pushed himself at all and hasn't worked on it

I want you to start upping your reps and sets on your chest. do a chest workout twice a week where you are ONLY working your chest. try 10 sets of 10... rest in between sets and walk around.. take your time, do them slow.. hydrate yourself with some protein or water. eventually work your way up to 15-20 sets per workout. and slowly up your weights over time. eat like a horse quality food.. you will see results.

do the same with your other body parts upping your reps/sets and slowly upping your weights... the larger muscles you should see strength gains very quickly, but seems like you are like my friend.. very weak on the chest but stronger with other muscles simply cause you haven't worked on it enough