Anyone use MASTERON while NOT lean??

[caBEAST]

Ive used pretty much everything over the past 16 yrs EXCEPT Masteron...it is easily available to me but everyone says you have to be lean for it to work....and Im definately NOT lean!!! Im not a complete tub of shit but lets just say Im not competing anytime soon...lol...I AM losing bf at an alarming rate bc of taking the last few years off EVERYTHING, including the gym so my receptors are so fresh and so clean clean!!!

My stats:
6'
284lbs
33 yrs old
been training hard since I was 14yrs old
eating clean right now
bf% lets just say you cant see my abs...starting to see the outline tho

 

[moya]

not so much of the physique changes... but the horomone will still be active in your body and you will benefit from it...

 

[C.K.]

I used it on my cut and it helped greatly...

 

[stevesmi]

why beat around the bush man? just tell us your bf%.

at 6 ft and 285 .. sounds pretty heavy. i would tell you to keep cutting, just like i would tell someone 6 feet at 150 to put on weight before running AAS.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Im using Mast E now, Im using it to cut off a couple stress/relationship/BS pounds, with Test E. Im not doing a real cut, more like a lean gains plus basketball leads to LBM gain and fat loss lol, so recomp...Im def seeing better gains and results now than when just running Test E alone a year ago. Im only just now ending week 3 and im already harder, more vascular, good mood most of the time, no sides yet, Im up 10 lbs, seem leaner though, although Im sure im holding some water to make up half of that weight. Im going to be adding AM cardio back into my routine on days Im not playing basketball to see if I can get a boost to some of the fat loss. So far things have been smooth.

-Legacy

 

[caBEAST]

Im not listing my bf% because I dont know it!!! I will post pics tho...Im not as fat as it sounds, I have competed in bb in the past so I have alot of muscle still from years of training and eating right....all Im saying is Im not lean...

 

[caBEAST]

plus basketball leads to LBM gain and fat loss lol,
-Legacy

--Good shit...I play basketball too for the cardio...LOVE it...much easier for me to play for an hour than walk on the treadmill or eliptical

 

[caBEAST]

why beat around the bush man? just tell us your bf%.

at 6 ft and 285 .. .

Im 284, not 285...lol....kidding....

 

[Nighthawkk]

I'm using mast prop for the first time also in the final stretch of a test/tren cutter and I'm not super lean yet either. I plan to be no more than 11-12% by the 20th week because I hear you can only notice its true benefits when your bf% is low, so we'll see what happens

 

[AAP]

The worst thing a person can do is waste their time and receptors on shit that isn't needed or can be utilized to the fullest on cycle. If you are bulking, you don't need to be injecting winstrol or primo. If you are cutting, you don't need to be injecting deca or suspension.

Drop the bodyfat, use masteron and see what it really does.

 

[moya]

The worst thing a person can do is waste their time and receptors on shit that isn't needed or can be utilized to the fullest on cycle. If you are bulking, you don't need to be injecting winstrol or primo. If you are cutting, you don't need to be injecting deca or suspension.

Drop the bodyfat, use masteron and see what it really does.

fail...

mast has plenty of use aside from cutting... the synergy of stacking is truly "utilizing to the fullest" your cycle... and i would much rather stack 500 test 500 mast than run 1g test on any cycle... that is also why everyone, whether bulking or cutting, powerlifting, whatever loves the test/tren/mast combo so well... this also lets you use more total mg of aas, but lower amounts of each will contribute less sides...

and i not sure what you are trying to imply about suspension... it is test... be it more potent mg/mg, even pinned only once a day i get less bloat off of that than any other estered test... if anything it should be the aas of choice for cutting... *and from what ive been seeing, most reccomend it being used leading up to a bodybuilding competition!

 

[AAP]

fail...

mast has plenty of use aside from cutting... the synergy of stacking is truly "utilizing to the fullest" your cycle... and i would much rather stack 500 test 500 mast than run 1g test on any cycle... that is also why everyone, whether bulking or cutting, powerlifting, whatever loves the test/tren/mast combo so well... this also lets you use more total mg of aas, but lower amounts of each will contribute less sides...

and i not sure what you are trying to imply about suspension... it is test... be it more potent mg/mg, even pinned only once a day i get less bloat off of that than any other estered test... if anything it should be the aas of choice for cutting... *and from what ive been seeing, most reccomend it being used leading up to a bodybuilding competition!

Fail my ass.

If you are using over 500+ test weekly and not growing you either got a problem with your calorie intake or you got a problem with the genetic Mother Nature handed you. Either case, more or different AAS is not going to change that.

Obviously when you say "this also lets you use more total mg of aas, but lower amounts of each" you have no idea of the little paradox you just stepped into.

 

[moya]

Fail my ass.

If you are using over 500+ test weekly and not growing you either got a problem with your calorie intake or you got a problem with the genetic Mother Nature handed you. Either case, more or different AAS is not going to change that.

who in here said anything about having trouble gaining?...

Obviously when you say "this also lets you use more total mg of aas, but lower amounts of each" you have no idea of the little paradox you just stepped into.
well then explain... lol... i love when someone tells me im wrong and has nothing to say afterwards...

see bold...

 

[gstacker]

Id have to agree with moya on this one bout the suspention for cutting and masteron stacked with test.... They just go hand n hand really, but i will say this if you are lean it really shines! I think somebody might have written a lil poem about masteron hmm wonder who that was???????

 

[moya]

...ok i almost see where you're coming from... more aas in general = more sides... however this is about mast, which can have an AI like effect, thus lessening some sides from the test... and as we all know, killing your estro with an AI hinders gains...
i understand its give and take... but almost everyone i know would rather spit up their total mg's between different aas then just bombard their system with a bunch of test thats just going to aromatize and be a waste (point of diminishing returns)... which i would belive would apply to those of us on here with fairly average receptor genetics...

 

[gstacker]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/masteron-me-poetry-steroid-lover-646812.html

 

[AAP]

If you are taking 500mg of test, there is no amount of mg of Masteron you can take that will give you more test. Period.

750mg of test is still more test than 500mg of test + whatever amount of masteron you are injecting.

 

[ledhead]

The worst thing a person can do is waste their time and receptors on shit that isn't needed or can be utilized to the fullest on cycle. If you are bulking, you don't need to be injecting winstrol or primo. If you are cutting, you don't need to be injecting deca or suspension.

Drop the bodyfat, use masteron and see what it really does.

Ultimately, you can diet on any drug. However, I understand where you're coming from with using Mast when body fat is low(you see the effects better). I believe Deca is one of the best drugs to diet on because of its collagen properties (tighter skin), and greater nitrogen retention. I think what your are trying to say about suspension is that there is no ester attached to it, so the increase of bloating (amomatizing) is wayyyy greater than other tests (agreed). However, there is one cure for all of this noise if people have the balls to take it, DIURETICS....or lasix (which i dont reccomend)... IMO, you can diet or bulk on any drug it's a matter of tweeking your training and diet... and playing with a water pill here and there...

 

[moya]

If you are taking 500mg of test, there is no amount of mg of Masteron you can take that will give you more test. Period.

where did i ever say that?
750mg of test is still more test than 500mg of test + whatever amount of masteron you are injecting.
which has nothing to do with this conversation... i guess you just want to avoid the topic, thats fine...

i never said your test would increase... your responses have not even been close to the topic...
suspension is not more bloat... it is used precontest for this reason... the people that bloat on it are the ones not using it properly...

 

[caBEAST]

Ultimately, you can diet on any drug. IMO, you can diet or bulk on any drug it's a matter of tweeking your training and diet... and playing with a water pill here and there...

TRUE DAT!!! I FIRMLY believe in this as well...I know MANY bodybuilders/atheletes(myself included) that use so called "cutting drugs" to get bigger and include "bulking drugs" precontest to help retain or even gain size while dieting...this happened to me....I believe its ALL about how your diet looks vs. the drugs you're taking...I know for a FACT that one well known pro used deca and cyp in addition to his precontest regime getting ready for the USA's...along with some dbol believe it or not....and he was VERY lean and in shape

 

[UA_Iron]

AAP is a monster in his own right... but I gotta agree somewhat with the other posters.

I like Masteron E to stack with test - it works like a mild AI in a sense. It stacks extremely well with progestins because it will bind to them in a fashion similar to winny minus the joint pain. These are all regardless of bf%. I wouldnt run it expecting to see anything significant though.

 

[zwhit]

i never said your test would increase... your responses have not even been close to the topic...
suspension is not more bloat... it is used precontest for this reason... the people that bloat on it are the ones not using it properly...

I always thought suspension was used precontest so it could be dropped a few days out from the show and be out of your system. And any water could be eliminated

 

[AAP]

i never said your test would increase....

You clearly said "this also lets you use more total mg of aas,"

Now are you saying that you can't use more test unless you use masteron along with it?

500mg test + 500mg masteron in no way compares to 1000mg of test. Not at all. Hell, I don't even think 500mg of masteron would measure up to 250mg of test. If you are trying to bulk, don't waste time sticking something like masteron when you could be using something more potent to reach your goals.

The original poster clearly has BF that is too high. He will NOT see any of the effects that masteron is famous for until his gets his % down.